Selecting text

[brandiartist]

I am having a problem selecting text. When I select any text in my documents, and then deselect and select another paragraph or words, the first selection is still highlighted. I have to refresh the window in order the deslect everything. This is annoying because I don't have time to keep refreshing the window. I layout publications, and time is crucial. Does anyone have a solution to this problem or heard of it? :mad:

[jimking]

What version of Quark and what computer platform are you using?

[brandiartist]

I am using Quark 6.5 with OS 10.4.2

[jimking]

Let me get this straight---when you select type (or highlight text) you can't deselect the text by clicking outside of the text box? So that when you select another group of text in another text box your first selection is still selected?

[brandiartist]

You got it! I have to minimize and then maximize my window to make the selection disappear. Clicking outside the box does nothing in most instances.

[jimking]

Strange that refreshing the screen deselects. Try these (some may sound stupid): Are you running several programs at once? Have you rebooted? Is your mouse clicking ok? Check your keyboard to see if any of your keys are stuck (option or shift). Trash your Quark preference and reboot. Rebuild your desktop. See if any of these will helps and let us know.

[MD]

Sometimes quark does this to me too. I don't know what causes it but if you hit F7 (turn guide off & on) it will refresh the screen too.

[jimking]

Sometimes quark does this to me too. I don't know what causes it but if you hit F7 (turn guide off & on) it will refresh the screen too.
Do you have Tiger loaded also? I'm thinking that it might be a bug in quark working in 10.4 (tiger).

[MD]

Nope I am still running Jag here.

[jimking]

Nope I am still running Jag here.
Using Quark 6.5?

[MD]

Yes I am.

[jimking]

I have 6.0 on the g4-panther, haven't had that problem. Must be a bug with quack. :mad:

[Eraser Nubbin]

Hiding and showing your guides seems to deal with a lot of refresh issues in Quark

[PrintDriver]

Hit F7 twice like MD says. It's a frigging BUG! No one has made an extension yet to auto redraw (though there is one for using Q3, 4 and 5 in classic thankfully). Not everyone has the problem though. Some say it's because they disable all the Xtensions in the manager that they never use...who knows.

[jimking]

Hit F7 twice like MD says. It's a frigging BUG! No one has made an extension yet to auto redraw (though there is one for using Q3, 4 and 5 in classic thankfully). Not everyone has the problem though. Some say it's because they disable all the Xtensions in the manager that they never use...who knows.
Looked high and low---Yep it's a bug--hit F7. What happened to quark anyhow? High and mighty? :mad:

[PrintDriver]

Oh, they know about it. It's mentioned buried in their site somewhere.
The general answer to all the bugs in 6.x has been "Wait for Version 7, they'll all be fixed." Now, with an answer like that, Quark should just hand out 7 to anyone who has 6, but NO, we'll have to pay, once again, for the bug fixes, plus buy into a whole batch of new bugs with the untested new pdf writer, transparency, and whatever other crap they drop in there. Happy Happy Joy Joy!

[PrintPharmacist]

I haven't been in the industry too long but from a fresh point of view, Quark sucks. We just bought the new one the other day (Mind you it was only to support outside designer files sent to us) and we had problems as small as registering online. The customer service was rude, and in my opinion is no more special than the much cheaper InDesign (or any other program with the same capabilities for that matter) And the new logo really tops it off. To call yourself a Software for designers whall you rip them off and having hired an agency to design a logo that could very well be conjured up by a 5yo art student really proves to me that they have fell off from whatever high-horse that they once were on. IMO.

[brandiartist]

Thanks for that advice, I will try using F7. Our department is definately switching to INDesign, a soon as we have the time to learn it. Quark is a piece of crap. The other day, Quark wouldn't let me choose a font in the measurements pallet, it kept saying "font doesn't exist", even Helvetica. It was stuck on that error message so long, I had to restart my computer.

[jimking]

Just think, soon you'll be able to buy a patch for $799, it's called Quark 7 :eek:

[MD]

Quark is a piece of crap. The other day, Quark wouldn't let me choose a font in the measurements pallet, it kept saying "font doesn't exist", even Helvetica. It was stuck on that error message so long, I had to restart my computer.

That is the other annoying bug that pops up ever couple weeks, usually you can force quit quark and you won't have to shut the computer down.

[PrintDriver]

And the patch for 7 will come out 2 years after that and will be called Quark 8.
You don't believe they are gonna get it right in 7 do you? Too much stuff being changed all at once.

[MD]

I think the culture has really changed over the last 2 years. I think they know if they don't get it right this time they may be finished. It is refreshing to see a real upgrade though. From what my boss said they had a full demo running quark 7 showing off all the new features at the print expo. Said it was impressive, he brought back a whole buncha crap including a copy of quark magazine.
In QuarkXpress 7.0 color management is on all the time. In Quark 7 the color in your documents will always be matched to your display. For the first time in the applications history users will actually have a chance to achive WYSIWYG color out of the box.

Either they get it really right or they will fall flat on their face. I am hoping for a hit because I hate the way InDesign handles type. and it would be a pain to transfer all our documents over :D

[jimking]

What gets me is all the updates in the past year. I'm getting this sinking feeling that these updates are infact bogus. Working in prepress and having to keep up with all the new updates (not all the time either) is getting abit out of hand. And the software seems buggier than ever! Things are starting to get by me (on proof) which is unusual. We are now having these color issues with Pantone changing its formulas and all the different versions of illustrator which have different interpretations of pantone colors. It like I'm losing a grip on things. :eek:

[PrintDriver]

That pantone thing has got to be the worst thing to happen to large format. It was done without fanfare, without notice, just cryptic "brighter paper, more colors!" Then Adobe f*d up by releasing Illy 10 with the wrong pantone swatches for the 7000 series PMS colors. If you don't do the Illy 10.03 combo update, a lot of your colors will be WAY off.

But you are right. Way too many updates, not only in programs but in operating systems. Just when you think you got it going right, you do a system update and, BAM! all your fans start howling and your system locks. Or, as many people did, you erase your firewire drive. Neato. That really really sux. And the stupid thing is all of the people who buy into the upgrades. Waiting in line for the first release of anything is just stupid. There is no law that says you need to be designing in the most top of the line software. Some of my best clients still use Q4.11 and I love them for it. Some stayed at InD2.02 which so far has been the most stable of the lot.

But we gotta keep up with the Joneses.

[pyeaton]

First of all, I have to agree with you all. Quark stinks! I am having this redraw issue as well. Very frustrating. Incrediblt infuriating that Quark will once again rape its customers by charging full price for the 7 upgrade which in fact is a patch. Pathetic.

We have all seen the robot that comes out (can't remember they keystrokes) and zaps your picture box, right? How come that still works from way back in 3.32, but they cannot get anything else to work?

Oh yeah, in response to the comments about their new logo, take a look at this: http://www.scottisharts.org.uk/

I like the logo, but copying is pathetic. Some artist!