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Jeje
09-16-2005, 07:48 PM
Your choice.

steve-o
09-16-2005, 07:50 PM
350d

Neballer
09-16-2005, 08:08 PM
<cough>20D</cough> Pardon me, 350D.

Mynock
09-16-2005, 08:15 PM
Which one costs more?

Jeje
09-16-2005, 08:29 PM
Which one costs more?
The price is almost the same
20D it's +1000$

Neballer
09-16-2005, 08:37 PM
and believe me it's worth every penny.

steve-o
09-16-2005, 08:58 PM
since we're posting with pretend money, I'll take the Mark IIs.

Neballer
09-16-2005, 09:06 PM
I'll have one too steve-o with a EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lense while you're at it. :D

Tyger
09-16-2005, 09:18 PM
I already have the 350d so the PSP1 would make a nice camera for the mrs:)

are you asking because you'll be buying either one?

If so what are your shooting intentions and how serious do you want to get into photography?

Jeje
09-17-2005, 01:14 PM
I already have the 350d so the PSP1 would make a nice camera for the mrs:)

are you asking because you'll be buying either one?

If so what are your shooting intentions and how serious do you want to get into photography?

Yes, I'll buy one of that soon.
It's my first digital camera, before I have used an old soviet photocamera.

Tyger
09-17-2005, 05:14 PM
so what ar eyour intentions? do you want to get serious into photography or just a casual shooter?

Jeje
09-17-2005, 08:17 PM
so what ar eyour intentions? do you want to get serious into photography or just a casual shooter? Seriously. It's not my work, just favourite hobby, but I need hight quality photos. That I can put it into the walls. :)

Tyger
09-18-2005, 03:51 AM
here's a long post...take your time:)

In my opinion I would go for the 350D if you want high quality results, but there are a few things to consider.

First of all here are a side by side comparison and check out the indepth reviews on both cameras.

350D vs power shot pro 1 (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_pro1%2Ccanon_eos350d&show=all)

Though both cameras are at 8mp, the difference will be seen in the lens you have. The PSP1 has a fixed lens up to 200mm and from what i've read it is made of the same glass as the "L" series lenses. However on the review it says that there is noticeable noise at 100 ISO which is unnacceptable for quality images. Here's the conclusion quote from the review....

" Overall conclusion


Overall image quality was good, that L lens proving it can deliver the resolution and that Canon's reliable DiGiC image processor can turn out a quality image with good tonal and color balance and no noticeable artifacts. We had two areas of disappointment from an image quality stance, firstly the lens exhibited noticeable lens shading especially at wide angle and/or maximum aperture, secondly noise levels were high enough to be seen at ISO 100 and progressively worse at higher sensitivities. This is clearly a trait of the eight megapixel sensor and while we commend Canon for taking a 'purist' approach to image processing these levels of noise really should have been tamed with an (optional?) noise reduction feature.

The Pro1 left me feeling neither hot nor cold, the camera delivered as much resolution as we had expected with on the whole good image quality but didn't really perform as we would hope 'across the board'. I didn't see any major improvements in performance and 'usage feel' and was left slightly disappointed by noise levels at higher sensitivities and the potential lens shading. That said there's little doubt that the Pro1 can deliver great images when used carefully and should certainly be in the top three on your shopping list if you're considering an eight megapixel prosumer digital camera."


The rebel 350D in my own experience performs well on all ISO levels noticable noise at 800 and 1600 but with good technique you could barely see the noise. IMO the quality of the 350D pictures are far superior.

The other factor you have to consider is lenses. Sure if you go for the 350D you would have to spend extra on a decent lens, another additional cost, but i must say that combined with the right lens the 350D really shines. I currently own the canon 70-200mm f4 L and it produces amazing results. With the PSP1 you are stuck with that focal length, but there are teleconverters and extension tubes you can purchase to add on.

It all depends what you will be shooting mostly...outdoors, animals, insects, people, indoor, or a little of everything.

If you are a hobbyist like me, i shoot almost everything, so for me i know i'll be buying a few lenses to meet my needs, but there are many "all around" lenses that may fit your needs.

Bottom line is if you are a looking to get into photography, the 350D would be a good entry level camera, should you purchase additional lenses then it would be a good investment down the road, because you can always change the camera body and still have your lenses for future use.

Sorry for the long post and there is much more i'd like to say, but the reviews cover everything. Just wanted to give my 2 cents and then some:)

fredrich
09-18-2005, 12:43 PM
Seriously. It's not my work, just favourite hobby, but I need hight quality photos. That I can put it into the walls. :)

Canon EOS 350d, no doubt.

Jeje
09-18-2005, 05:31 PM
here's a long post...take your time:)

In my opinion I would go for the 350D if you want high quality results, but there are a few things to consider.

First of all here are a side by side comparison and check out the indepth reviews on both cameras.

350D vs power shot pro 1 (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_pro1%2Ccanon_eos350d&show=all)

Though both cameras are at 8mp, the difference will be seen in the lens you have. The PSP1 has a fixed lens up to 200mm and from what i've read it is made of the same glass as the "L" series lenses. However on the review it says that there is noticeable noise at 100 ISO which is unnacceptable for quality images. Here's the conclusion quote from the review....

" Overall conclusion


Overall image quality was good, that L lens proving it can deliver the resolution and that Canon's reliable DiGiC image processor can turn out a quality image with good tonal and color balance and no noticeable artifacts. We had two areas of disappointment from an image quality stance, firstly the lens exhibited noticeable lens shading especially at wide angle and/or maximum aperture, secondly noise levels were high enough to be seen at ISO 100 and progressively worse at higher sensitivities. This is clearly a trait of the eight megapixel sensor and while we commend Canon for taking a 'purist' approach to image processing these levels of noise really should have been tamed with an (optional?) noise reduction feature.

The Pro1 left me feeling neither hot nor cold, the camera delivered as much resolution as we had expected with on the whole good image quality but didn't really perform as we would hope 'across the board'. I didn't see any major improvements in performance and 'usage feel' and was left slightly disappointed by noise levels at higher sensitivities and the potential lens shading. That said there's little doubt that the Pro1 can deliver great images when used carefully and should certainly be in the top three on your shopping list if you're considering an eight megapixel prosumer digital camera."


The rebel 350D in my own experience performs well on all ISO levels noticable noise at 800 and 1600 but with good technique you could barely see the noise. IMO the quality of the 350D pictures are far superior.

The other factor you have to consider is lenses. Sure if you go for the 350D you would have to spend extra on a decent lens, another additional cost, but i must say that combined with the right lens the 350D really shines. I currently own the canon 70-200mm f4 L and it produces amazing results. With the PSP1 you are stuck with that focal length, but there are teleconverters and extension tubes you can purchase to add on.

It all depends what you will be shooting mostly...outdoors, animals, insects, people, indoor, or a little of everything.

If you are a hobbyist like me, i shoot almost everything, so for me i know i'll be buying a few lenses to meet my needs, but there are many "all around" lenses that may fit your needs.

Bottom line is if you are a looking to get into photography, the 350D would be a good entry level camera, should you purchase additional lenses then it would be a good investment down the road, because you can always change the camera body and still have your lenses for future use.

Sorry for the long post and there is much more i'd like to say, but the reviews cover everything. Just wanted to give my 2 cents and then some:)

Thanks to everybody!
Specialy for you, Tiger.
But, maybe you can tell me something about a lences? :rolleyes: It will be very interesting for me.

Tyger
09-18-2005, 08:50 PM
what do you want to know? i'm not a pro and just picked up photography. everything i know has come from reading and checking other forums.

Tyger
09-18-2005, 09:07 PM
Jeje,

here's agreat article about buying lenses that i came across that is very informative. IF you have more questions please feel free to ask:)


Seven considerations when buying glass (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97056)

Courtesy of Peter Doomen