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danedawg99
10-18-2005, 08:27 PM
Ok, a little back story...
I went on a job interview recently for a local Alphagraphics. They were needing a lead designer, as their current designer is not good at all. According to the manager I interviewed with, she shows up sporadically at best, does sub standard work when she does any at all, and is rude to customers and co-workers. Well, he proceded to show me a logo that she did that she charged the customer $1000 for. Allegedly, this logo took 8 hours to do and she was supposedly REALLY proud of it. Well, I guess the customer took the proof sheet, and were never heard from again.
Fast Forward a week or so...
I'm working at a small-time screenprinting/embroidery shop. I'm going through some old files and run across a file for this company. Curious, I open it up, AND IT'S THE SAME LOGO!!!! The one the customer "didn't like". My boss said that they came in with this on a piece of paper and asked them to reproduce it for them, since they had "lost" the original file.
I thought this was hilarious as hell. I'm debating telling the Alphagraphics manager about this, even tho he didn't hire me. What do y'all think i should do?
oh yeah if you wanna see this masterpiece, here's a link (http://66.77.176.5/yellowpages/gif/10/1077_1823_303120498_1067.jpg)
the logo is the upper half of the ad, above the list. ;)
Rocketpig
10-18-2005, 08:31 PM
Christ almighty, that logo made my eyes bleed.
Mynock
10-18-2005, 08:33 PM
::Fighting back gag reflex:: That's a nice logo, excuse me..........
jimking
10-18-2005, 08:34 PM
Looks like Fast Suckers suckered Alphagraphics. That's one rediculous looking logo. A sucker holding a sucker.Hehe :p
danedawg99
10-18-2005, 08:36 PM
yeah they did... Should I tell them? :confused: :rolleyes:
jimking
10-18-2005, 08:39 PM
Yes for $500.00 bucks---Suckers!! :D
Mynock
10-18-2005, 08:44 PM
I would, but I don't know it that's the professional thing to do. Designers have to look out for designers. Like that whole logoworks thing.
John G
10-18-2005, 08:44 PM
I would, it would be worth it just to know that "Fast Suckers" had to pay $1k for it :D
lmao
angerisagift
10-18-2005, 08:44 PM
jeepers.......thats horrible...and thats the top designers work? hot diggity dog......i was absolutely shocked that that is professional work....and something a LEAD DESIGNER is PROUD of....
Mynock
10-18-2005, 08:46 PM
If I was the client I wouldn't pay 1k for that horrible thing, but then I wouldn't then take it to someone else to get it recreated.
Rocketpig
10-18-2005, 08:47 PM
Offer to redesign it into something that doesn't make people want to vomit.
Fee? $500.
Rocketpig
10-18-2005, 08:48 PM
In all seriousness, did she do that logo in MSPaint?
Just Satch
10-18-2005, 08:49 PM
Some people are idiots... they like that kinda stuff, But obviously they didn't think it was worth 1k either since they stole it.
jimking
10-18-2005, 08:52 PM
Some people are idiots... they like that kinda stuff, But obviously they didn't think it was worth 1k either since they stole it.
That's correct. They spent days working on that lolli pop knowing that each day the price for this sucker is climbing and then got out in a panic.
Skyler
10-18-2005, 08:53 PM
dear christ that makes me appreciate my less mentally astute clients more. :p
colonel5
10-18-2005, 08:59 PM
In all seriousness, did she do that logo in MSPaint?
wow, that's an atrocity. I think I had a better logo for them the time my cat walked across my keyboard.
Drorain
10-18-2005, 09:02 PM
wow did someone teabag their screen? that logo is terrible
Eraser Nubbin
10-18-2005, 09:07 PM
I have to say that that logo licks salty balls, but I don't think that makes it ok to rip it off. Regardless of the merit of the thing it is still someones work/idea and theft is theft, turn the buggars in.
Then secretly send them a quote to do a better logo for them.
colonel5
10-18-2005, 09:12 PM
yeah, to settle this, I would give the original designer a lollipop as compensation for her efforts, then I would threaten to sue the company for trying to tie another company into a theft scandal... then charge them $5k to redesign it (and stay quiet)
danedawg99
10-18-2005, 09:13 PM
here is the email I sent.
Rocket, no sadly this is a case of a designer not knowing how to use her tools. (specifically, AICS2)
Hello Sir,
My name is Dane Ault. You and I had a meeting last Tuesday about the
possibility of me coming to work with you. This, as much as I am
curious, isn't about the outcome of that meeting.
This is in regards to a piece that you showed me that was a "showcase
piece" for your current/last designer; the 'Fast Suckers' logo. I
remembered you telling me that not only did the customer not like it,
they stomped off with the proof sheet, and never paid you for time
spent. Well, in the interim, I've taken a temporary job at a small
company, doing t-shirts. In the course of this job, I found a file
labeled 'Fast Suckers'. Curious after our meeting, I opened it. And
there was that logo. I don't pretend to know how or why said logo
would end up at this shop for embroidery work, but it did end up here.
A quick google search shows that the company is using this logo freely
in all manners of promotion. As a fellow professional graphic
designer, and regardless of whether I got the job or not, I could not
stand idly by, while an unscrupulous company is screwing (for lack of
a better term) a fellow professional by using a piece that they have
no legal right to.
I thought you should know. If there are any steps to be taken, I wish you luck.
Thank you,
Dane Ault
A link to a recent yellow pages ad featuring the aforementioned logo.
http://66.77.176.5/yellowpages/gif/10/1077_1823_303120498_1067.jpg
Drorain
10-18-2005, 09:18 PM
Dane Keep us updated if you hear of anything
Rocketpig
10-18-2005, 09:19 PM
You did the right thing. No matter how bad the work is, it's still not theirs to reproduce.
danedawg99
10-18-2005, 09:22 PM
Dane Keep us updated if you hear of anything
Will do! :D
LeftBrain Artist
10-18-2005, 09:24 PM
Wow.
That really is something to be proud of - not making the logo, but charging 1K for it.
Man, that's so horrible, its too easy to make fun of.
PersonasBinar
10-18-2005, 09:30 PM
I wouldn't have paid more than say ...... *looks around* 5 bucks for it. It is horrendous, both in design and in how was it procurred. You done good.
Rocketpig
10-18-2005, 09:33 PM
I wouldn't have paid more than say ...... *looks around* 5 bucks for it.
Waitaminute... Where's 13yroldguru when we need him?
morea
10-18-2005, 09:37 PM
I'm going through some old files and run across a file for this company. Curious, I open it up, AND IT'S THE SAME LOGO!!!! The one the customer "didn't like". My boss said that they came in with this on a piece of paper and asked them to reproduce it for them, since they had "lost" the original file.
people like that sicken me.
Well done, Dane. Designers have to stick by each other... it's the principle of the thing.
TheBluePanda
10-18-2005, 09:52 PM
Wow, that was a bad logo, especially for $1000. A fetus using notepad could have designed a better logo.
danedawg99
10-18-2005, 09:57 PM
well, you know, some fetuses (feti?) are really talented... ;)
Vikia
10-18-2005, 11:16 PM
Yikes! Bikes! Ugh!
Don't know what to say -
If that logo drums up business I will faint - but then it is memorable....when you need sewage sucked up, think of crap! Maybe you get what you (don't pay) for.
Skyler
10-18-2005, 11:47 PM
Wow, that was a bad logo, especially for $1000. A fetus using notepad could have designed a better logo.
I hear that pre-natal ASCII art is making a comeback. ;)
Nice...
Now when I want a sucker, my next thought is going to be sewage.
PersonasBinar
10-19-2005, 12:20 AM
damn you mean the logo worked?
Eraser Nubbin
10-19-2005, 05:01 PM
Nice letter DDawg, I wouldn't be surprised if something like that landed you a job. You never know, that letter just reaks of good character.
danedawg99
10-19-2005, 05:04 PM
Nice letter DDawg, I wouldn't be surprised if something like that landed you a job. You never know, that letter just reaks of good character.
thanks, nubbin. I'm glad you think it reeks! I hope it does, but like i said, It makes little difference if it does or not.
GreenThumb
10-19-2005, 07:58 PM
You have to TRY and then make a logo that bad!!!
PersonasBinar
10-19-2005, 08:02 PM
It takes a special kind of magic
Regardless of the merit of the thing it is still someones work/idea and theft is theft, turn the buggars in.
Then secretly send them a quote to do a better logo for them.
That sounds like logical advice, until you consider... Would YOU do a job for a company you know is in the business of ripping off designers? Not to mention one with extremely bad taste?