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thenicksocial
12-27-2005, 06:14 PM
Hello everybody!
I'm having a major problem with a website I just completed for a band called This Holiday Season. I am using a standard iframe for navigation through the site, and for some reason, all of the links within the iframe itself do not work when you click on them. If you right-click on them, you can open the links in a new window, but simply clicking on them does not open the pages that I want them to.
You can visit the site at http://www.thisholidayseason.com if you want to see for yourself. Please let me know if you have any suggestions... I'm at my wit's end. Thanks!
Nick W.
How are you targeting the links within the iframe?
I havn't used iframes in a long while but, I would assume you taget them in regards to the page in which they are on... not the page which holds the iframe.
It most likly has something to do with that.... if thats incorrect then you may need to the opposite of what I said when targeting.
edit:
noun of your links within the iframes act like links... on my computer.
I can't even clicl on them and my cursor is not changing when I roll over them.
Maybe its a firwfox issue or something... idk.
Might want to address it though.
JPnyc
12-27-2005, 06:22 PM
None of the pages you link to end with a .htm or .html extension
Thomas51471
12-27-2005, 06:25 PM
it works for me.
jlknauff
12-28-2005, 02:10 PM
I would advise against using an iframe because search engines will not be able to get to the links.
JPnyc
12-28-2005, 02:55 PM
You can get around that by submitting the links page directly.
jlknauff
12-28-2005, 03:02 PM
Submitting pages is an outdated technique. It really has almost no effect in the main engines anyway. Plus, you can submit pages all day long, if the engines can't get there via links you can bet that they will never rank for anything and will be viewed as doorway pages. Besides, what are you going to do when you have 1,000s of pages? It's really not a good approach.
JPnyc
12-28-2005, 03:06 PM
Not so. I have submitted sites of ours that were not crawled by yahoo at all. Several months later, yahoo slurp bots were found on the site. Prior to the submission, we saw not a single yahoo bot. Google galore and also ask Jeeves but not a single yahoo bot, until I submitted the site to them.
jlknauff
12-28-2005, 03:08 PM
You missed my point. Submitting the site really means nothing. The bot will come around but if it can't get around in your site you will not rank for anything.
JPnyc
12-28-2005, 03:16 PM
I think you're missing mine. Before the submission the bot DIDN'T come around. And those sites not submitted to yahoo are STILL not crawled by it. So if you submit the page containing the links, it will crawl that page. You can also add a link to the iframe document directly, and hide it with css. Humans won't see it, bots will. Then it's no less navigable than any other site, so bots will crawl it like they would any other site. Of course you should also put the same type of hidden link on the iframe page to lead back to the main site
jlknauff
12-28-2005, 04:39 PM
No, I'm not missing your point. Submitting your site is a waste of time because it offers no SEO benefit. You can submit a site to Yahoo, but that has no bearing what so ever on ranking. It does no good to have a search engine just know about a site. You only benefit when you rank for keyword phrases that people search for.
As for hiding links, well, that's just a good way to get a site banned.
JPnyc
12-28-2005, 05:07 PM
Well here are the facts. Before submitting the sites in question, their ranking was nowhere to be found on Yahoo. Now, they return in the 1st page. Sites not submitted do not rank, still. No other practical differences exist between the sites. They all run the same version of vbulletin software
I don't know where your getting this info from, but hiding links is a common way of circumventing certain crawability issues, like sites that use Flash navigation. You duplicate the nav in html and hide it from human sight with CSS. I've attended SEO conventions, in fact Jupitermeda used to run them.
jlknauff
12-28-2005, 05:12 PM
In all the major SE's TOS they clearly state not to display one thing for SEs and another for users. I would say that is a pretty reliable source of info.
We could disagree all day long but I'm sure we both have better things to do with our time so I am done with this subject ;)