Designing in CKMY- JPG output doesnt look good

[wesbos]

so im designing somthing i have in CKMY right now, when i save it as a .jpg to show my client it does not look the same, the blues are much more darker and saturated, not off of it shows up. Any tihng i can do?

also when i send the ckmy file to the printer, will it come out like that, or like my jpg is?

[TheWalt]

yes i believe it would come out in the colours of the preview, darker that is. i guess it has to do with programms other than your graphics-tool beeing unreable to interpret non-RGB properly. i get that all the time when looking at photoshop.created stuff in windows-preview. writing a pdf of your file should do. i'm not a pro though, no guarantee.

[wesbos]

so it is going to print as if it was in the JPG or as if it is as i view it in PHotoshop? Please be photoshop, im having so much trouble with colors lately and its frusterating.

[Retribution]

From my understanding, CMYK color is used for printing, and nothing else, whereas RGB is for digital mediums, as digital color is red, green as blue, whereas prints are done in Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow. I also find that printing the original .psd file looks better than the JPEG version of it.

[cjoe]

so im designing somthing i have in CKMY right now, when i save it as a .jpg to show my client it does not look the same, the blues are much more darker and saturated, not off of it shows up. Any tihng i can do?

also when i send the ckmy file to the printer, will it come out like that, or like my jpg is?

maybe one of the print guys could help out...

[wesbos]

yeah this is for general knowledge tho, so from retribution's post i gather that it will print out as shown on the .PSD CKMY File, and its changing colors b.c i am saving in .jpg wich is RGB?

Also the saving to a .PDF preserved the colors.

[WannaBrie]

If you are designing for print, is your layout totally done in PS? Are you supplying a pdf to the printer? Are u using profiles? what are your preferences set at? Monitor calibration has a lot to do with how you view your colors... How about saving your files as tifs and using a cmyk profile and have you asked the printer what he requires ? It is my understanding that jpegs are more stable for web, and tifs for print quality..

[wesbos]

my monitor is calibrated, i will supply the printer either a psd or or pdf within the templates they give me.
Im using the default adobe profile. http://www.hypnoticduplication.com/art.html is the site with all the specs on it, and i have read it all and understand it.

I just would like to know if "what i see" is basically "what gets printed"
not "what i see on the jpg" is "what gets printed"

thanks for your help so far, hope someone can help me out here.

[PrintDriver]

The generic Adobe profile for Photoshop is RGB.

[PersonasBinar]

A jpeg file can be either RGB or CMYK. It's knowing and understand how inks are mixed to yeild you the colours desired. Sounds like you desiged with a brilliant blue onscreen and then converted to CMYK only to see it turn dark. This is correct and typical. A jpeg is mererly a compressed flat file. The jpeg compression can ruin a print job if it is compressed too much. Best not compress at all if you have designed to proper press line screens. .eps .tif are fine. If the whole layout is done in Photoshop then possibly convert your text layers to shapes and save as en .EPS file with vector data included so your type can remain crisp. Get a colour proof so that you see the colours before you run.

Then go back to your teacher and give them a smack for having not prepared you properly. Read up on colour and printing.

[wesbos]

awesome, i will save as .eps and have the color come out as the .psd would be.

As for the teacher, im only 17 and have never had any training of any type.

[wesbos]

sorry another question, how do i convert text to shapes so they are vector for photoshop?

[wesbos]

anyone?

[Mynock]

flatten the layer

[Eggles1]

wesbos

Any text you have added in the Photoshop file IS vector unless you have rasterised the layer to add effects to the text. If you can still edit the text, it's vector.

As PB said, although I'm not sure why converting 'text layers to shapes' is necessary:

>>If the whole layout is done in Photoshop then possibly convert your text layers to shapes and save as en .EPS file with vector data included so your type can remain crisp. <<

When you save the Photoshop file, if there are vector elements in it (such as unrasterised text), then saving as a layered PSD file or checking the box within the save dialogue that allows you to retain vector text as vector (can't remember the exact terminology as I never use PS for vector text) you should still get clear crisp text. I wouldn't flatten the file as it removes any possiblity of editing the text and secondly, it will rasterise the text to whatever resolution the non-text layers are.