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I'll let everyone know how it turns out when I recieve it.
You should have waited for the 2nd or 3rd revision, there will be problems ... I think they don't ship till next month - there is still time to cancel your order ...
Patrick Shannon
01-21-2006, 03:42 AM
I wouldn't be that worried. The Powerbo....ahem, "Mac" Book is simply the same Apple laptop as before with a new processor and a new name. (Likewise, the new iMac is the same as the G5 iMac which was two-three generations in). Anyway, I used to have a first generation G4 (Sawtooth) and that lasted me for many years.
I think the issue of native software (right now) should be a bigger concern.
All I am saying is applecare would be a wise investment. The initial release of anything product is usually full of bugs and or problems. Know anyone that has a rev. 1 playstation 2 ... almost all have overheated by know. Same thing goes for everything from new cars to blenders. Let someone else work the bugs out.
Patrick Shannon
01-21-2006, 04:48 PM
Yeah, I hate to admit it (as someone who dispises department store clerk idiots trying to sell them to you) but extended warranties are a good idea for something that takes a beating like a laptop. Go with AppleCare. Also increases selling value if you ever decide to sell it (depending on how much warranty you have left).
Back to the other topic, it's just that I think people have too big of a stigma against first gen products and bugs/faults can happen during any revision. If I recall, one of the recent PowerBook lines (revision E, I think?) supposedly had a ton of problems.
I purchased the apple care warrenty as well- so I'm not worried on that end.
Patrick Shannon wrote:
Yeah, I hate to admit it (as someone who dispises department store clerk idiots trying to sell them to you
lol- yeah
However, with such a large invest it is a must- especially with computers.
When I bought my precision from dell I learned this.
However, have/had the dell three year warrenty.
There for, all the promblems were addressed with ease and no fuse (except for the fact of getting to the right person on the phone- which is a whole other story,lol)
So my rule of thumb is allways get a warrenty for at least three years.
I mean... they are computers and something will allways go wrong- regardless.
Especially when I use them as much as I do or any designer this day for that matter.
Points well taken though.
Silence04
01-21-2006, 06:19 PM
Oh No!!!
Adobe hasn't come out with Software Support for the new Intel Chip and probably won't until CS3, so to use photoshop, illustrator, etc you have to use Mac's built-in code conversion app "rossetta."
which means your design software will certainly NOT be running 3-4x faster, in fact it will probably run slower... Steve Jobs said it himselft.
PrintDriver
01-21-2006, 07:45 PM
On a side note about Apple Care, from the Apple rep I ordered mine from after 8 months...
If you wait until your factory warranty year is almost up BEFORE purchasing AppleCare you can extend your coverage to almost 4 years. Apple Care becomes active the day you purchase it, not your comp. Just be sure to keep your comp purchase receipt. It's good to wait.
silence you bring up an interesting point.
I might just need to hold back on the software untill the universal versions come out and just use my school hardware and current computer for design work for the time being.
D-Frag
01-21-2006, 09:39 PM
not only that but im with MD on this one. take it from someone who used to buy the "new" mac's when they came out. ive put into my "new" mac, about 3 times what it originally cost me. but I swear im not jaded! *sarcasm*
Patrick Shannon
01-21-2006, 10:43 PM
PD: You know, I had always wondered about that. Good call.
If you are into video editing with Apple stuff, the Final Cut Studio will be out in March. But for the majority here, I doubt the next CS upgrade isn't coming out anytime soon. Isn't Adobe on an 18 month cycle with CS? Knowing that, I believe the CS2 Suite was released last May.
I've actually had a chance to play with Rosetta/apps on someone's 20-inch iMac. It is true, you don't want to use it working with high res stuff. But for anyone doing anything casual or editing for the web, I think it would be fine. While it's no miracle or anything, Rosetta surprised me a little bit. However the benchmarks are on the web if you scout them out.
What did shock me was how acceptable World of Warcraft ran under Rosetta. (Although they're coming out with an Intel upgrade soon anyway).
colonel5
01-22-2006, 04:16 AM
On a side note about Apple Care, from the Apple rep I ordered mine from after 8 months...
If you wait until your factory warranty year is almost up BEFORE purchasing AppleCare you can extend your coverage to almost 4 years. Apple Care becomes active the day you purchase it, not your comp. Just be sure to keep your comp purchase receipt. It's good to wait.
that's actually not true, the apple care dates back to your original purchase date (which is tracked by the serial number of the product) AppleCare is only good 3 years from the purchase date whether it's purchased right when you buy it or a day before the 1 year is up.
I'm not just trying to be difficult, I worked for apple for awhile, and a lot of people thought they could do the same thing, only to find out that it didn't matter when they bought it during the first year.
Rocketpig
01-22-2006, 03:59 PM
I don't think there will be many problems. Some of the problems with older Apple hardware and things like the Playstation is that first revisions always meant they were dealing with new architecture.
x86 is the most well-known architecture in the world and I have the sneaking suspicion that Intel designed the mobos for Apple. I also heard that Apple hired a bunch of Sony Vaio engineers to work on the new notebooks.
So, you have a chip based off the Pentium M (Core Duo), which is based of the Pentium III architecture... In other words, a very well-established line that has been in existence for about 8 years.
Then you have a motherboard built and designed by the largest motherboard manufacturer in the world using the chip that they designed (I've never had an Intel board fail on me and I maintain about 20 Windows machines at work). That doesn't leave much room for anything... Stuff like ethernet, I/O, are all on the mobo so they should be fine. Apple is again using a Pioneer Superdrive so there should be no worries there. Same with the screen. They're probably using the same manufacturer for that. And the casing is pretty much the same. It's all well-known technology. I doubt there will be any huge problems with the new MacBook.
With that said, buying AppleCare is never a bad idea, especially on a laptop.
Rocketpig
01-23-2006, 05:21 PM
DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
Uh oh, looks like I was wrong... I'd wait for at least rev 2 for the new MacBooks...
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2006Jan/bch20060123034350.htm
Who would have thought that Intel would have problems with such a well-known chip?
BTW, Intel did design the mobo. That's why Firewire 800 is not supported on the new Macbook. Apple would have needed to create an add-on card for it.