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Manga Sprai
02-13-2006, 06:50 PM
http://spraistudio.qualysearch.com/memories.jpg
DAZ photosho p illustrator 15h + or -
C&C thx
Jriddim
02-13-2006, 06:56 PM
absolutley dreamy.... i love it
Manga Sprai
02-13-2006, 09:29 PM
thanks!
Epectasis
02-13-2006, 11:27 PM
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
Manga Sprai
02-14-2006, 10:54 AM
:) thanks!
Drawing a Blank
02-14-2006, 04:34 PM
Nice work as always manga. The only thing I don't like about the piece is the position of her feet, but that may just be a personal preference. The position of her feet make her look pigeon toed because her right foot is facing in rather than straight out. If that was your intention good job, if it wasn't your intention just take it as an observation from another painter.
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Drorain
02-14-2006, 05:03 PM
quite nice manga, she's so cute, the clothing is done very well too.
15 hours...amazing
Manga Sprai
02-14-2006, 08:46 PM
it was my intention "drawing a blank" :)
thanyou all
D-Frag
02-14-2006, 10:20 PM
Wowsaz
AlexNJ210
02-14-2006, 10:44 PM
very nice manga. Extremely accurate proportions on her, great anatomy knowledge shown by this image. I love the delicateness of the hands. Really makes the picture.
;)
Vikia
02-14-2006, 11:31 PM
Beautiful work! Very sweet subject.
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 01:40 PM
thanks alex but i dont think im that good :)
i used a ref^^
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 01:41 PM
thx vikia
Drawing a Blank
02-15-2006, 01:47 PM
it was my intention "drawing a blank" :)
thanyou all
Then as I said good job. You have tremendous talent and I have liked every piece you have shown. I wish I had the time to paint more myself, but there are to many other things right now.
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 02:47 PM
thankyou!!
it seems i have quite free time now that i m a student
Drawing a Blank
02-15-2006, 02:57 PM
I remember having more free time when I was a student and I did a lot more work that I wanted to do back then as well. Enjoy it for as long as you can. With your talent you may be painting like this for a living (that would be my dream job) so you may be enjoying it for a long time yet.
Zenobian Grey
02-15-2006, 02:58 PM
Mag,
Nice brush work, but check your composition! In otherwords, dead center is usually a bad spot to place your subject matter.
Art 101.
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 03:17 PM
thankyou :) both..i ll do better...
my dream is become an illustrator
reuber1
02-15-2006, 03:19 PM
Well, you shouldn't have a problem getting there. Your stuff is awesome.
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 03:20 PM
thanks! :) i hope then!
Zenobian Grey
02-15-2006, 03:42 PM
Magna, I can see you're truly open for suggestion. You will be a better illustrator for it.
Your technique is strong. But I have some concerns about your artistic message.
In the context of a story, I can see the subject matter working well.
However, standing on its own, it doesn't "say" much. It appears that a girl is walking down a narrow hall from her bedroom. But what is that saying to the viewer? What does that say to you?
I think you're style could be more pronounced if you presented a little more dramatic lightning. Try darkening the surrounding background and always consider where your light source is coming from. As it stands, it looks like you have a 360% light.
In the case of a hall, usually the light source will come from above the subject. If there is a window that is open there will be light from there as well, even at night. Therefore, the highlight and shadows must reflect that source.
I recognize that your style is soft brush. If you want soft lighting, make the highlights and shadows more subtle with smoother transition from dark tones to lighter tones. Also, watch out for hard lines.
Again, avoid centering your subject matter.
The art isn't so much in the details as much as it's capturing space into form.
I hope this helps.
I beleive you have awesome potential. But I also beleive you aren't quite there. I have confidence that if you challenge yourself more and more, you'll be where you want to be in no time. :)
AlexNJ210
02-15-2006, 04:06 PM
thanks alex but i dont think im that good :)
i used a ref^^
Youre too modest :) . Still, even with a reference, the transitions from light to dark really create the forms you have represented, and are the basis for this type of illustration. Thats where you shine. Anyone can trace something but it takes an artist to make it look and feel realistic and transcend the levels of "just a drawing". Keep working at it, you will only get better. I would have to agree with ZG though. You have a powerful artistry, so now consider more your composition, and expressive content. What do you want to "Say" with your images. A good title always helps reinforce a message.
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 04:43 PM
......i cant say a word..just..THANKS!!!
i will take you 2 words as a treasure! thankyou
i ll try to improve and improve!
(i love flatness as you can see :))
next time i ll try to say something;)
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 04:44 PM
...and if someone wants to hire me i m always here XD ^__^
Zenobian Grey
02-15-2006, 06:17 PM
Manga,
Iv'e done some post work on your image to demonstrate what I was referencing above.
I've reduced the color to monocrome and added in a nice side lighting. I think it gives it much more mood which gives much more of a emotional message rather than, "here you go in a complete 360% light source".
http://artman-dg.com/m2.jpg
You want your illustrations to carry weight, feeling, and mood, rather than just a blunt-detailed illustration. If you can do this, I don't see why anyone wouldn't hire you right now...
Best of travels.
reuber1
02-15-2006, 06:23 PM
Great explanation Zenobian. I agree, if you can nail the ability to give a detailed mood to your images, you should easily be hired. I think your stuff is awesome now, and yet there is room for improvement....which is a nice way of saying you can be really f'ing great!
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 07:06 PM
ehy your postwork is great!
but i think mmmm, i usually dont like that style of work.
u know i was tinking to art nouveau and something like that...it was totally flatness!!
but as i said, your work is..great!
do u wanna know a thing? in the next work , ill try to use more lights..or..i mean.. a light direction.
but i really love flatness tough.
(that kind of things is the hardest to do for my capabilties :))
morea
02-15-2006, 07:13 PM
a picture's worth 1000 words... great explanation. I have difficulty portraying lighting/shadow sometimes, too. This really shows what a difference it that extra attention can make in the mood of the piece.
Zenobian Grey
02-15-2006, 07:24 PM
I know you like 2D work, I just visited your website. :)
Still, you can present more mood and message nonetheless. Instead of gradient shadows and highlights use flat 2D shadows and highlights which will give simular structure.
The image you presented was shaded as if it were a painting instead of 2D work. It was actually borderline between 2D and 3D (realistic) which presented an interesting angle minus the improvements.
Lighting is a powerful tool. It's what makes our visual world possible. It can dramatically improve mood.
steve-o
02-15-2006, 07:33 PM
"Lighting is a powerful tool. It's what makes our visual world possible. It can dramatically improve mood."
Couldn't agree more. Whether it's photography or illustration, lighting is what makes an image. This is why learning/studying one really can help with the other.
Navian
02-15-2006, 07:33 PM
Lighting is also a difficult subject to master. Where it is in an image, photo, design in a 3d program (shape), or lighting layout for an engineering job.
I know a guy who is a Lighting Engineer (masters in electrical & lighting engineering & 25 yrs exp) he is paid quite a bit, and does some major freelancing plus a normal 9-5 job.
There is more to lighting than just simple 2d projections.
*EDIT* Sorry didnt see steve'o posting till after I posted mine, but both have complimentary info. ;)
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 07:34 PM
i understood :) you all are REALLY helpfull!
thanks!
Zenobian Grey
02-15-2006, 08:03 PM
Here's another example with dramatically increased composition and "flattened up" a bit...
http://artman-dg.com/m21.jpg
It doesn't matter whether it's 2D or 3D, composition and lighting greatly adds dramatic emphasis.
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 08:08 PM
you re right.
really. i ll try:) just wait
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 08:09 PM
otherwise... here what i mean with flatness
http://www.tenthousandvisions.com/10000visions/inspirations/inspiration%20gallery/dance-mucha.jpg
Zenobian Grey
02-15-2006, 08:12 PM
Manga,
This is considered line art. (with color) This is not what you accomplished in your intial image.
Olive oil anyone?
steve-o
02-15-2006, 08:15 PM
Even so, there is a subtle trace of directional lighting. Notice how her shoulder and breast area is lighter than her back. There are hightlights and shadow areas. Not very pronounced, but just enough.
Manga Sprai
02-15-2006, 08:18 PM
oh you re right zenobian, sorry. and u re right too steve.
directional light directional light directional light i will TRY!