an art question

[wrestle freak]

does anyone know how to take pictures of high detail and have them converted to black and white and have them to be used in Corel? Or if anyone knows of clipart that is highly detailed, what i'm looking for is clips of eagles and they need to look somewhat real and have high detail in black and white.
thanks in advance

[STORMRIDER]

Hi, I am new as you can probably see. I dally with CorelDraw 11 and am still learning. However, my passion is falconry and I would be very interested in following this thread for any advice as I am also learning photography.

I hope you guys dont mind me tagging along here.
STU

[flutterby nut]

wow...this is uncanny...in the technique section is a tutorial posted by mylkhead for doing designs on t-shirts...i followed his instructions a couple days ago using an eagle just for fun...got some really great feather detail as well as the tree branch the eagle was sitting on...looks awesome in black and white...you should try it...might be just what you're looking for...

[morea]

and here's the link to that tutorial:

http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14096

[Logo-Mechanix]

You could google clipart of eagles and just make sure it is in vector format such as eps and it will be able to be used in Corel Draw no problem but beware clipart generally looks like clipart. What I would do is find some photos that meet my criteria and create a vector illustration in Corel by first drawing with paper and pencil and then scanning in and tracing in Corel using the pen tool. If you are not experienced with this it will not be easy. Your other option is hire an artist to do it for you, but a realistic bird will not be cheap.

[flutterby nut]

hehe!...thanks morea...wish i knew how to do that!

[Logo-Mechanix]

Or you could use that tutorial.....hey you beat me to it. That tutorial was pretty cool, I am a newb to photoshop and I tried it and it was kind of cool.

[flutterby nut]

lol, logo!...i'm a newb with photoshop myself...haven't done near the filter effects of the average user...hopin' that's a good thing...i like illustrator better...

[morea]

lack of filter effects is a good thing. properly done, they don't look like filters anyway. ;)

Photoshop is the program I have the least experience and least confidence in. I use Illy and ID almost every day, but rarely get to work in PS.

I find that our photoshop "parties" and avatar modifications on here really get me to think in terms of basic PS problem solving, etc. It's good practice. :)

[Logo-Mechanix]

I find myself falling behind the learning curve and it worries me not knowing some programs. I have alot of responsibilities and more coming (kids) and I worry if something was to happen with my job finding another one will not be easy without being able to use programs like photoshop. I am thinking about taking a course or two at the county college, might not be a bad idea.

[morea]

there's always lynda.com, too. Might be less expensive...

[Logo-Mechanix]

I thought about that also, have you ever used them Morea?

[morea]

not personally, though I have friends who have and have said positive things about them.

[Logo-Mechanix]

I am pretty much self taught in AI and Corel Draw so I think if I just know the basics the rest I can figure out. But one of these courses would speed that up I would imagine.

[Jason Fraker]

I am fortunate enough to be able to use photoshop, illustrator, InDesign, and Quark just about every day at work. It's one thing to learn a few things in school, but on the job experience has taught me more than anything else would have.

Morea: The photoshop parties are pretty good training. I never would've had to change a Ms. PacMan machine into Altered Beast at work!

I would recommend lynda.com, if only because you can join for $25/month and have 24/7 access to all their video training. The only downside is that it's streaming and not downloadable. I've checked out a few free videos of theirs and have been impressed. There's also Total Training, which is another video training company. I have used a few of their videos and they are very informative and well-produced. Great instructors too.

[Logo-Mechanix]

Thanks Jason, appreciate the tips I am pretty sure I am going to try one of these options, either the local college or one of these site mentioned here. I am pretty confident about learning with one of the three, I have done some online tutorials for photoshop and was able to do them fairly well and that has helped me learn some of the tools and different different effects and things. Thanks all.

[tZ]

...haven't done near the filter effects of the average user...hopin' that's a good thing...i like illustrator better.

amen

[Patrick Shannon]

I would recommend lynda.com, if only because you can join for $25/month and have 24/7 access to all their video training. The only downside is that it's streaming and not downloadable.

Also their tutorial files are not downloadable (with that kind of subscription), and although that can be worked around just fine, sometimes you want to see exactly how the instructor did something.

Yeah, Lynda.com is great; I actually convinced my systems team manager to get the design team a premium membership each. Which is awesome because I can now cancel my own subscription ;)