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JaCkinbOx
03-12-2006, 08:16 PM
I got pulled over by the local police tonight. I was on my way home from my fiancee's house, turned on to a highway and was very shortly after that tailed by a cop for about a quarter of a mile. He tailgated me big time, daring me to speed. I did not.

So he turned on his blue lights and pulled me over. I turned off onto the nearest road and parked.

The policeman came to my window. I was really expecting to be accused of speeding (and I didn't). He did not accuse me of that, but of "turning off too fast" and "my tires squealed". All right, both of these accusations were a lie. And if either one was really a genuine offense, then why did he think over pulling me over for awhile before he committed to it?

Befuddled, I asked him what was illegal about either of those things. He did not explain, I asked him twice; he simply repeated himself and acted like I should know that it's wrong. "To protect and serve," my aunt fanny. This was bullshit, and I made sure he knew I knew it. He didn't have a leg to stand on, but I know better than to accuse a cop of lying. He then asked me for my license and registration -- I gave him that and my insurance card for good measure.

He went back to his car and did whatever in there for about 7-10 minutes, then came back to my window, saying nothing, and took a flashlight to my inspection sticker. My suspicions were confirmed that he was bullshitting and didn't appreciate me asking what was illegal about "squealing tires", so he was looking for whatever he could use to pin on me. Lucky for him, my inspection sticker turns out to be out of date. I was not aware of this; it was supposed to be replaced the last time I took it in for inspection -- evidently they did not replace the sticker. *******s.

On account of the inspection sticker that the inspectors did not do their duty to replace, the cop issued me a "warning" and fined me $135 for an out-of-date inspection sticker. That's the highest fine he can give me, under these circumstances, so he threw the book at me.

This is not the first time I, or anyone else I indirectly know, have been harassed by the Brevard Police force. I am ****ing fed up with them.

Honestly, I'm surprised he didn't ask to search my vehicle, because that's exactly what the police pulled on me last time they pulled me over. This is a whole other story that I'll go into detail on some other time. I do believe the reason they did not do so was because I had my cell phone with me and had called my fiancee and held her on the line for the duration of all this. I had a witness to any injustice served against me. While he never saw me at my window when he came up with it, he definitely would have seen the lights of the cell near my ear while he was doing his business in his car.

This, or the fact that it was 3 AM and he didn't want to be bothered with searching through my overtrashed car.

I hate the double-standards the police have. I have seen them speed recklessly, I have seen them cut people off, they're racist, they're sexist, they're prejudiced against college students or anyone who looks college age, they commit illegalities left and right and go unpunished for it. This sort of behavior does not instill in me a lot of respect for them. If they want to lecture me about "reckless driving", how 'bout taking the plank out of their own eye and not tailgate dangerously close behind me? Deer are out now, what would've happened if one jumped in front of me?

I'll be writing a letter to the paper about this.

Vikia
03-12-2006, 08:35 PM
If you have proof of an inspection, I would go back to the inspectors with your ticket and make them pay for it. Or bring the proof of inspection to the courthouse with you.
You should not have to pay a fine for their negligence.

Neballer
03-12-2006, 08:49 PM
What is an insepction sticker? I've never heard of that.

damn the man, save the empire.

balou
03-12-2006, 09:05 PM
Good thing you weren't wearing an Alfie's Turban to boot!

I agree with Vikia though. Don't pay for something that's not your fault.

Satchel
03-12-2006, 09:06 PM
My suspicions were confirmed that he was bullshitting and didn't appreciate me asking what was illegal about "squealing tires", so he was looking for whatever he could use to pin on me.

Actually there is such a thing as excessive exelaration... you may not have done it, but if he's claiming you were "squealing" your tires, he can pull you over for that.

I have had good experiences (very few) and horrible experiences with police, unfortunatly we give them the power to act the way they do. If you say he gave you the biggest fine possible, techincally that's within his right to do so. It would be different if he tried to give you a fine above and beyond the maximum, right? I'm just saying that they sometimes give you a break sometimes give you the max - but if you get on their bad side, you probably wont get any more breaks.

Rocketpig
03-12-2006, 09:33 PM
Small town cops are almost universally cowardly dickheads.

I live in Long Beach and have had one bad experience with cops and about five good experiences. I attribute this to the fact that if you don't mouth off to them, they're just happy that you're not packing a weapon and will generally send you on your way if you give them the info they want.

In my experience cops who have to deal with a lot of really bad crap (shootings, rape, gangs, etc.) are more willing to let you go on your way peacefully than small town cops who have nothing better to do than harrass you.

I pretty much dislike all police officers, but I really hate the small town variety. At least the city cops actually put their asses on the line every time they hop in the squad car.

PrintDriver
03-12-2006, 10:27 PM
If the inspection charge is on your bill from the garage, it should be on the car.

But why didn't you check?

I got whacked for an inspection sticker once too. My fault for missing the date. And my insurance company took a step on my insurance bill too even though it wasn't the kind of thing that would have made me a liability to them. They told me it was up to me to keep my paperwork in order. ??? So a piece of paper makes me a better driver?

balou
03-12-2006, 11:02 PM
We have a friend that's a detective for a small town. He deals with all the same things happening in larger cities, just in smaller doses. Hearing some of the stories though, these men & women deal with the drudges of society on a regular basis. Can you blame them for not being suspicious of everyone? I basically feel if you don't do anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about. Except if you're Jack In the Box driving down a lonely road not squeeling his tires at 3am. ;)

Neballer
03-12-2006, 11:10 PM
What is an insepction sticker? I've never heard of that.
anybody?

Kool
03-12-2006, 11:32 PM
Neballer, some states make you get a safety inspection every year. Brakes, tires, lights and whatnot. We used to have a sticker that went on the corner of our windshields with a big number representing the month and the sticker itself was a certain color representing the year. Quite a while back here they did away with the whole sticker deal and just made it part of your yearly registration, IE you can't register your car without proof of inspection. I guess some states still do the sticker thing though.

Neballer
03-12-2006, 11:56 PM
well that's good to know, I thought I was going to have to add another item to the list of crap in need for the car I don't drive.

thanks.

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 12:24 AM
Seriously, are all cops those kids in high school that got made fun of and figure out a way to seek revenge???? WTF??? Sounds like someone needed a quota to fill or he just gets a kick out of pissing people off. I can get into a few cop stories myself.. hehe

Vikia
03-13-2006, 12:31 AM
An inspection sticker is required in some states. They do a safety inspection and if the vehicle cannot pass it will not get the required sticker.

Our state used to do this, they got rid of the inspections some years ago when it was found that the system had alot of corruption in it. Sometimes stickers were simply bought through illegal channels. But if the inspection is done correctly, it does keep unsafe vehicles off the road. Brakes have to work, mufflers have to be attached to the car etc.

cjoe
03-13-2006, 02:47 AM
Damn Cops, fight the power, fight the power

Patrick Shannon
03-13-2006, 04:11 AM
Cops suck (my friend became one for a time, we heavily teased him for it). What pisses me off is when they abuse their power and turn on their lights to drive through intersections then quickly turn them off. I think there needs to be a "police" for the police to bust them on this.

Here's a trick that might work sometimes...you know those bumper stickers that you get when you donate to the police? Don't pitch it, put it on your bumper. Sometimes cops will leave you alone (unless you're doing something really obvious) if they notice the sticker.

JaCkinbOx
03-13-2006, 05:20 AM
Cops suck (my friend became one for a time, we heavily teased him for it). What pisses me off is when they abuse their power and turn on their lights to drive through intersections then quickly turn them off. I think there needs to be a "police" for the police to bust them on this.

Here's a trick that might work sometimes...you know those bumper stickers that you get when you donate to the police? Don't pitch it, put it on your bumper. Sometimes cops will leave you alone (unless you're doing something really obvious) if they notice the sticker.

That's a good idea.

And they put on their lights to get through traffic ALL the time here. It's really disheartening.

Things have gotten worse here since 9-11, and for no good reason.

jlknauff
03-13-2006, 12:39 PM
Maybe he was one of your fiancee's ex boyfriends and he was pissed that she is with someone else ;)

Logo-Mechanix
03-13-2006, 12:45 PM
I have some friends who are cops and they are generally good guys. I have not had any bad experiences with the police since I was young (long hair, leather jacket etc..) they used to pull me over all the time and search my car, ask for my paper work and basically harass me. One of the benefits of loosing you hair and out growing your biker jacket is you don't get harassed any more. LOL. I just saw a cop this morning change lanes twice without using a turn signal and then someone did it in front of him and guess what? Thats right he put his lights on and pulled them over. Jack, when you get older and you get pulled over it is worse because by then the cop is usually younger than you.

JaCkinbOx
03-13-2006, 03:02 PM
The sad thing is this guy already looked to be about my age, and I'll be 22 this June.

I do have long hair now; I'm sure that has something to do with it.

I also have this sneaky suspicion that my anti Wal-Mart bumper sticker might've had something to do with it. Damn rednecks. (Yes, people have not appreciated me for this, believe it or not.)

Evidently this is the sense of justice they're promoting at the academy. Beware of cops with boredom.

Stever
03-13-2006, 03:29 PM
Sorry to hear that you had to go through that. Bad deal. Maybe the cop was having a bad night. It's not an excuse, but it does happen. Then again, maybe he was just a *****. I was a police reservist quite awhile back and can say with certainty that some cops are just *****s. But most of them are really good guys who want to do a good job "serving and protecting." Sometimes those good guys have bad days and can act out a little. Not very professional, but it does happen sometimes.

Hope you don't have to pay that fine.

morea
03-13-2006, 03:39 PM
I know a few police, and they really are good guys. I have actually heard them complain about the same thing with certain people they work with.

Ditto on hoping you don't have to pay the fine. :(

rockem
03-13-2006, 03:51 PM
that sucks, but what he did say he pulled you over for can be illegal and you can get a ticket for it

Logo-Mechanix
03-13-2006, 03:57 PM
F'em Jack, drive it like you stole it.

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 04:33 PM
The sad thing is this guy already looked to be about my age, and I'll be 22 this June.

I do have long hair now; I'm sure that has something to do with it.

I also have this sneaky suspicion that my anti Wal-Mart bumper sticker might've had something to do with it. Damn rednecks. (Yes, people have not appreciated me for this, believe it or not.)

Evidently this is the sense of justice they're promoting at the academy. Beware of cops with boredom.


Damn Jack... Your about to be 22? Me too!!! about 8 more days and ill be the ol duece duece...and I have long hair... and I REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE walmart.. Have you ever seen the southpark walmart episode???................absolutley genius. but anyway... i wont cut my hair for no cop... that sounds like conformin to "the man" lol... I wont even cut my hair for a hot girl......welllll maybe... but thats selling out to the "little man" LOL

Patrick Shannon
03-13-2006, 04:36 PM
Damn Jack... Your about to be 22? Me too!!! about 8 more days and ill be the ol duece duece...and I have long hair... and I REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE walmart.. Have you ever seen the southpark walmart episode???................absolutley genius. but anyway... i wont cut my hair for no cop...

Ironically, when I worked at Wal-Mart when I was sixteen, they asked me to cut my long hair, not even accepting for it to be pulled back / up.

Hehe, that South Park episode got so many things right about that place, from the ridiculously low prices to the fat cashier woman wobbling out of the place (before it imploded).

Logo-Mechanix
03-13-2006, 04:40 PM
I don't beleive a job can legally force you to cut your hair, maybe make you wear a hair net or something, which would probobly make me want to cut it. That is if I had any left.

rockem
03-13-2006, 05:00 PM
how did the long hair get brought into the cop story?

Navian
03-13-2006, 05:01 PM
I don't beleive a job can legally force you to cut your hair, maybe make you wear a hair net or something, which would probobly make me want to cut it. That is if I had any left.

Gov. jobs they can. Saw it when I worked at the airport for security. They told this Native American to cut his hair. (its a traditional thing) they didnt care. I thought I was going to see a real life scalping, that guy got pissed, he was going to sue them for it, but he had no case. The dress code was men had to have haircuts/styles where the hair didnt cover the ears, and couldnt go down past the collar of the shirt. Women had to pull there hair back and up. You couldnt wear hats unless it was freezing outside and that is where you where stationed. IF a company dress code requires it, you can follow it or get terminated (in most places).

Stever
03-13-2006, 05:03 PM
how did the long hair get brought into the cop story?
That's what I was just thinking. :D

Navian
03-13-2006, 05:05 PM
how did the long hair get brought into the cop story?

Long hair always makes you suspicious. Try some undercover loss prevention Rockem, they tell you to watch guys with long hair, they are usual suspects. I cant count on my fingers and toes the amount of people with long hair that my brother and I had arrested. Plus when I worked at the airport, people who usualy caused problems had long hair. Its just a trend that is pretty consistant. If your a nice guy but have long hair, no one really knows your personality, so they will go by what has been a trend.

*edit* oh, and when there where a few jobs (loss prevention), people whom where protesting against a store (we stopped them from entering because they vandalized the store property/merchandise), there was a few guys with long hair, some had dreads, women had unshaven legs.

rockem
03-13-2006, 05:11 PM
nevermind

Navian
03-13-2006, 05:17 PM
Nevermind? I answered your question: How did long hair end up in a cop story? Jack got pulled over for something and he said he has long hair, maybe the cop had a reasonable dout.

Who knows what the cop was thinking. But honestly the ticket Jack got is really stupid, and I'd personally fight it. for one he pulled jack over for 2 things, yet gave him a ticket for a 3rd that wasnt even a mentioned as a reason for pulling him over for. Its rather stupid IMO. the cop could be out busting people for shootings, theft, or other more serious traffic violations than an invalid safty sticker. Looks like the cop had nothing else to do, and Jack got the rough end of a ticket.

Do you have to go to court on this ticket Jack?

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 05:29 PM
Well I wish that people werent soo judgemental.. people always associate long hair with drug-use or crime... just like they assoiciate black people with..... and latino people with.........WTF people... just cause i have long hair dosnt mean im going to smoke weed or rob someone.. thats rediculous.. all of you that do judge people by the way they look are nothing but racists. jack... you probably did get pulled over cause of your hair... or the type of car ur driving... what type of car is it???? everytime I get into a car no matter what... i get a feeling safeness from cops (my friends BMW) or a feeling of nevousness (when i drive in my friends rusted busted toyota corrolla)... Cops a freaking racist.. no matter what anyone says... im sure there is a select few... but just for kicks.... why is it that minorities make up less than 40% of our entire population... and make up more that 90% of arrests... is this just a coincidence???? are all minorities really drug sniffing crminials??? or do cops just happen to "see" only minorites breaking the law? Does their big self tinting chrome highway patroll frank poncharello glasses only see in black and brown???

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 05:31 PM
I dont think white people are perfect.. And when I say white people I mean you. You short haired, clean cut, dockers wearing , sweater around your shoulders, cheese and cracker eating.....white people..

balou
03-13-2006, 05:36 PM
Here's a question to ponder for fun Jriddim; if short hair symbolized a rebel, artistic, viva la differenc and long hair symbolized clean cut, conformity, all business, follows the rules, what would your hair look like?

Navian
03-13-2006, 05:39 PM
Why the racist card? I'm getting really sick and tired of people using that. Its ignorace, really.

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 05:41 PM
I pull the racist card cause its the truth

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 05:43 PM
Yes balou. I guess i would be a non-conforming conformist...

Stever
03-13-2006, 05:43 PM
I dont think white people are perfect.. And when I say white people I mean you. You short haired, clean cut, dockers wearing , sweater around your shoulders, cheese and cracker eating.....white people..
No offense intended, but isn't that a judgemental and rascist statement? :confused:

vtwin_gary
03-13-2006, 05:44 PM
tailed by a cop for about a quarter of a mile. He tailgated me big time, daring me to speed. I did not.

So he turned on his blue lights and pulled me over. I turned off onto the nearest road and parked.


FYI: cops do this for a reason: they run your tags before they pull you over incase you have warrents, are a known drug dealer, have shot cops in the past, fled the sceen before. they want to know what they are getting into before they pull you over. they may need help & they want it on the way.
when they pull me over it usually takes about 3-5 miles & there is alway a 2nd car there before he turns on the blues. maybe i'll explain later but probably not.

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 05:45 PM
yeah i was being racist on purpose... lol

Stever
03-13-2006, 05:46 PM
Humor....what a concept. :D

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 05:52 PM
ahahah... I hate getting into arguments like this.. cause everyone has their own views.. no point in trying to change someone elses views. even I was being "racist" against the police... just cause i thought they deserve it.. unlike the poor minority living in the ghetto that has enough trouble trying peel the label off his forehead. I just wish there were no labels thats all.. A world with no labels is a world we yet to experiance.

rockem
03-13-2006, 05:52 PM
FYI: cops do this for a reason: they run your tags before they pull you over incase you have warrents, are a known drug dealer, have shot cops in the past, fled the sceen before. they want to know what they are getting into before they pull you over. they may need help & they want it on the way.
when they pull me over it usually takes about 3-5 miles & there is alway a 2nd car there before he turns on the blues. maybe i'll explain later but probably not.

yep, i know some cops may take the tailgating to an extent but they all do it for a reason, it is not to DARE you to speed up. if a second cops shows up it depends on the ticket that the person is getting.

Kool
03-13-2006, 05:57 PM
why is it that minorities make up less than 40% of our entire population... and make up more that 90% of arrests...

This is the question. :confused:

Are statistics like this a justification for the practice of profiling? Or are they a byproduct of the very same practice of profiling? Beats me. :confused:

LeftBrain Artist
03-13-2006, 06:02 PM
Yep, Navian - you know what you're talking about. I had long hair a few years back and chopped it off. Once, when the hair was long, I got pulled over because, ahem, "my headlight was dim". I was given a warning?!

Everyone knows long haired guys that wear biker jackets smoke weed every chance they get. And we can't drive without a beer in our hand. And we eat babies. Its all that ManoWar music. Thats why we get pulled over all the time. As soon as I cut my hair, I stopped smokin weed, drinking wild turkey, and eatin babies. But my hair grew back, and so did my taste for babies . . . Any time a cop pulls over a guy with long hair, he'll find either weed, booze, or baby skeletons 99% of the time.

So is it OK to profile long haired white fellows, but not blacks? Or is profiling both OK - cuz they're both usually up to no good, right? Aren't they just discriminating against the poor in either case, as us long hairs obviously don't have the means to groom ourselves properly. Aren't we all really a crooked bunch. Wouldn't the worst and most devious and truly evil of us try to throw off suspicion by being clean cut, white, with Jesus Fish on the bumper - we should profile those people and see what is unearthed. I bet you would find something - like skeletons of gay people, or bibles and bomb parts stained with the blood of abortion clinic doctors.

reuber1
03-13-2006, 06:03 PM
My name's Paul and this shit's between y'all.

FYI, my name's not Paul.

Stever
03-13-2006, 06:05 PM
I just wish there were no labels thats all.. A world with no labels is a world we yet to experiance.
Yes, racism abounds, but it's not in every negative event that takes place. Seems like some people try to make any negative event racial when they can't think of anything other reason.

I'd be angry too, if a cop treated me that way. In fact, it happened when I was around 20. I was visiting my friend one night. His dad was assistant chief of police. Anyhooo....we got the urge for ice cream and decided to drive down to the liquor store on the corner. We went in...bought our ice cream and left. The next thing we knew we were being pulled over. The cop thought we'd bought booze. He had no evidence or cause except we pulled out of a liquor store. He asked what we had in the bag. We showed him ice cream. He then searched our car. He eventually let us go.

When we got back to my friends house, we told his dad what happened. The next day the cop was called on the carpet and repremanded. It worked...sort of. He stopped that behavior in that particular neighborhood, but took it up in another. Long story short...he received more complaints and he was eventually fired.

That was a long road to a small house in an attempt to say...I can relate. :D

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 06:19 PM
hahaha... left brain and stever... I can't agree with you more.. I tried not to throw in the rasict card kanye west syle.. lol I tried to display the truth that is going on in SOME places.. because racism is forever present... we just happened to apply a few filters and effects to disguise it a little.

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 06:20 PM
kool... beats me too!!! i dont even know if i should belive theese "statistics" lol

Logo-Mechanix
03-13-2006, 06:20 PM
LeftBrain & Reuber, you guys made me laugh on a day when I could really use a laugh. Reuber where the heck was that line from? I am wracking my brains out trying to think of it.

reuber1
03-13-2006, 06:24 PM
I could let you think about it all day, but someone else will tell you anyways.

It's in Pulp Fiction, when Sam Jack and John Travolta go into the bar to see Ving Rhames, and they were arguing about something or other, and that's what the bartender said to them.

Logo-Mechanix
03-13-2006, 06:25 PM
Thats it! thanks man I would have been going nuts trying to think of that one.

LeftBrain Artist
03-13-2006, 06:36 PM
My sister was an emergency room nurse a short while ago, so she's pretty chummy with the local police. She got to ride around with one of the boys on the job once, she got to use the radar gun to tag speeders. Then they went to a local hangout where school kids "park" if you know what I mean, and shined the spotlight in a few windows. Some of these guys screw with people for the hell of it, some do it because they're *****s, but make no mistake, they know they're being A-holes.

Logo-Mechanix
03-13-2006, 06:39 PM
Did they go out for donuts?

LeftBrain Artist
03-13-2006, 06:44 PM
I didn't ask, didn't want to know. Always glad to make someone else beside myself laugh! I've been more stressed out than a longtailed cat in a roomful of rocking chairs lately. Gotta come here and make some silly comments to retain my sanity.

Navian
03-13-2006, 06:44 PM
LOL logo, must be a romantic evening, going out for donuts and coffee in a cop car.

reuber1
03-13-2006, 06:45 PM
I didn't ask, didn't want to know. Always glad to make someone else beside myself laugh! I've been more stressed out than a longtailed cat in a roomful of rocking chairs lately. Gotta come here and make some silly comments to retain my sanity.In case anyone is wondering, the picture to the left is probably what that looks like.

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 07:53 PM
That is so funny left brain.. Ive been feelin like a one legged cat trying to cover his sh*t on a frozen pond.

Stever
03-13-2006, 08:11 PM
^^
Say WHAT!? :eek: LOL

morea
03-13-2006, 08:12 PM
*growls menacingly*

JaCkinbOx
03-13-2006, 11:41 PM
Nevermind? I answered your question: How did long hair end up in a cop story? Jack got pulled over for something and he said he has long hair, maybe the cop had a reasonable dout.

Who knows what the cop was thinking. But honestly the ticket Jack got is really stupid, and I'd personally fight it. for one he pulled jack over for 2 things, yet gave him a ticket for a 3rd that wasnt even a mentioned as a reason for pulling him over for. Its rather stupid IMO. the cop could be out busting people for shootings, theft, or other more serious traffic violations than an invalid safty sticker. Looks like the cop had nothing else to do, and Jack got the rough end of a ticket.

Do you have to go to court on this ticket Jack?

No, I don't have to appear in court. I'm pretty sure I can't contest it, but I will be calling the court to ask why I should have to pay $110 in court fees (since I will not be appearing in court). That seems a little asinine, to me, but whatever. If there's any chance at getting this lowered, I figure that's my best bet.

I don't make a lot of money right now, so this fine is a real pain in the ass... not to mention an insult.

jack... you probably did get pulled over cause of your hair... or the type of car ur driving... what type of car is it???? everytime I get into a car no matter what... i get a feeling safeness from cops (my friends BMW) or a feeling of nevousness (when i drive in my friends rusted busted toyota corrolla)... Cops a freaking racist.. no matter what anyone says... im sure there is a select few... but just for kicks.... why is it that minorities make up less than 40% of our entire population... and make up more that 90% of arrests... is this just a coincidence???? are all minorities really drug sniffing crminials??? or do cops just happen to "see" only minorites breaking the law? Does their big self tinting chrome highway patroll frank poncharello glasses only see in black and brown???

Jriddim, I drive a 2001 Ford Focus, at the moment. It has dented bumper and the right side mirror is held on by epoxy -- it's probably more secure than it's ever been, but it looks like shit. A frickin' bush at my fiancee's house ripped it off. It's a POS, but it runs pretty well. I'm looking to trade in for a different car, but no luck so far.

As for cops being racist, I'm really not sure just how much of an issue that is. I do know, however, that if you make assumptions based on statistical chances, you are only reinforcing those statistics... and you're damn well likely to pull over folks who fit the profiles before you pull over anyone else -- so you'll be too busy to balance the statistics by pursuing blatant offense. You get it in your mind that people who are such-and-such skin color or have such-and-such facial characteristics are the most likely to commit crimes. It's not a healthy way to think. It's somewhat of a self-defensive reaction, but the authorities really need to try to keep an open mind or else the statistics will be slow to change.

FYI: cops do this for a reason: they run your tags before they pull you over incase you have warrents, are a known drug dealer, have shot cops in the past, fled the sceen before. they want to know what they are getting into before they pull you over. they may need help & they want it on the way.
when they pull me over it usually takes about 3-5 miles & there is alway a 2nd car there before he turns on the blues. maybe i'll explain later but probably not.

That did cross my mind, but on the other hand I think his motives weren't entirely professional -- especially when coupled with the rest of the crap.

There was a second car, but he didn't come around until later.

Another risk I was probably taking is that my house is in the direction of some of the most low-income housing of anywhere around here. Pushing 3 AM, I suppose that doesn't look good.

Sorry to hear that you had to go through that. Bad deal. Maybe the cop was having a bad night. It's not an excuse, but it does happen. Then again, maybe he was just a *****. I was a police reservist quite awhile back and can say with certainty that some cops are just *****s. But most of them are really good guys who want to do a good job "serving and protecting." Sometimes those good guys have bad days and can act out a little. Not very professional, but it does happen sometimes.

Hope you don't have to pay that fine.

Eh, most of the cops around here are *******s. There are not a lot of good ones, I'm afraid.

So far, I've been pulled over by 3 policemen. The first one was a highway patrolman (out of town) for a speeding ticket. Yes, I was speeding (even though I'm a very good driver and nobody was endangered by it), and the whole situation was handled very well. Most professional policeman I've ever met with.

The second run-in with the cops was in town -- one sherriff and one policeman. They pulled me over for an illegal substances search, with the excuse that I had "pulled out recklessly in front of an incoming black Corvette"*, and that the driver even "squealed his tires" in trying to avoid me. Their opening line was "DO YOU WANT TO DIE?!!!!!!" with veins popping everywhere. First of all, I did not pull out recklessly -- that's lie number one. Second of all, the car was neither black or a Corvette -- it was purple and some other type of sports car. That's lie number two. And third of all, his tires did not squeal.

They took my fiancee and I out of the car, embarrassing the shit out of us, and proceeded to search my car. They didn't even do it right; they were clearly just harassing us. They did a half-assed job of searching, and totally neglected the trunk. If you're going to act like you're doing a legitimate search, at least do it right. A couple of minutes into searching, they asked if they could search my car -- it is actually illegal to search without a warrant unless permitted. I granted it, since they're obviously going to do it anyway and it would make us both more satisfied.

Okay, so he found an empty glass bottle in my cup holder and stared at me condescendingly, holding it in his hand. "What's this, huh?"

I stared blankly for a moment, and then furrowed my brow. "It's a grape Nehi." You ****ing idiot. Evidently he's illiterate, too.

So yeah, they found nothing (of course), and after much threatening and a lecture on people getting killed on that part of the highway a lot (which is an extreme exaggeration, I frequent that road), they let me off with a warning. They hid my keys in the bottom of my seat (in the crack), too. It took me about 10 minutes to find it.

I just realized an interesting coincidence -- with this new guy that pulled me over the other day, I got pulled over pretty much directly opposite the side of the highway I was pulled over on last time.

In a somewhat related story, there's a black college acquaintance of my fiancee's that got pulled over once for driving while black. (Yes, driving while black; I didn't make a typo.) He had a digital audio recorder with him. The cop came up to his window. Cop says, "Do you know what you were doin', boi?"

"Hold on, officer," He proceeded to turn on his recorder in front of him. "Now, what can I do for you?"

"That'll be all, son, move along."

True story. My fiancee heard the recording, herself.

*Word has gotten around that I'm not the only person to get the "black Corvette" line. This happens all the time.

Jriddim
03-13-2006, 11:54 PM
^^^^^My point exactly I know a couple people who got a DWB.. That is an awesome story that I shall now pass on.

panzer
03-14-2006, 02:32 PM
i feel that you are over reacting okay he sounds like he was out of order, but coppers in my country treat everone like crap regardless , and framed we being called stitched up , i have not only the t-shirt on that but the scars and bruises to prove it

JaCkinbOx
03-14-2006, 04:10 PM
I'm overreacting to think cops should be performing justice...?

Where is Wirral? I got a match for the UK.

reuber1
03-14-2006, 04:19 PM
The whole protect & serve thing is more of a priveledge that people earn, usually through nepotism or wealth (lucky for you if it's both). If you haven't earned that, they get to treat you like crap, non-negotiable.

BTW, you have to go through ten years in at least three third-world countries before you're allowed to post any complaints in the Soap Box, and that's WITHOUT complaining in those places first. Otherwise, people will give you a hard time about posting a complaint to begin with, because human beings aren't allowed to bitch.

JaCkinbOx
03-14-2006, 04:26 PM
Haha, reuber, you are funny man! Very funny man.

Tempting as it is to simply rot in jail for awhile instead of pay the fine, I don't feel it would make a worthwhile statement under these circumstances. It's not something I can effectively go all Braveheart on them about.

Drorain
03-14-2006, 04:45 PM
i like my townie cops...most of them are seen drinking down at the Sons of italy...I'm known to a few by sight to, but thats cause I'm hanging with people involved in the local politics and fire dept anyway...connections...see connections

I should be pulled over, being a youngin...but I am also gifted with looking older than I really am, yup I'm a clean cut goofy looking bastid

Satchel
03-14-2006, 04:50 PM
There is a local cop where I live that is a year or two older than me, was engaged to an ex-girlfriend of mine, all she used to do was say good things about me (believe me, I wish she would have been talking shit) and he would harass me non-stop. I started documenting the times he would drive by my house, or follow me around town, but then it just all blew over. I saw him at a party one night and he said he had to call in sick to be able to come - there were under age drinkers there and he didn't care, he pumped the keg for 'em. Talk about someone you dont want to be a cop!! But he hasn't ever actually pulled me over so screw it! - Cops are dinks no matter where you are - unfortunatly that is life!

Drorain
03-14-2006, 04:58 PM
meh, the drinking age is BS anyway...should be 18-19

if one of those kids are willing to go die for me overseas...I'm sure as hell gonna toast him, and he should be able to raise a glass in that toast as well

Satchel
03-14-2006, 04:59 PM
meh, the drinking age is BS anyway...should be 18-19

if one of those kids are willing to go die for me overseas...I'm sure as hell gonna toast him, and he should be able to raise a glass in that toast as well

I dont make the laws... I just know the cops are supposed to enforce them!

LeftBrain Artist
03-14-2006, 05:07 PM
I dont make the laws... I just know the cops are supposed to enforce them!

Actually, we're all supposed to make the laws - the whole democratic process thang. But you know how that goes these days.

rockem
03-14-2006, 05:12 PM
I dont make the laws... I just know the cops are supposed to enforce them!

if the cop at the party would have started busting people undercover wise, there would have been much worse thoughts against him

JaCkinbOx
03-14-2006, 05:26 PM
I think if we raised a stink, we could very quickly get the legal drinking age lowered to 18. Might only start at the state level, but that's a very good start.

Satchel
03-14-2006, 05:27 PM
if the cop at the party would have started busting people undercover wise, there would have been much worse thoughts against him

cops are supposed to care what people think now? It's not a popularity contest! I'm not saying he was supposed to bust everyone there, I'm saying that since he called in sick to go to this party with underage drinkers, he may not be the best fit for the job... that's all.

morea
03-14-2006, 05:29 PM
^ true.

rockem
03-14-2006, 05:32 PM
cops are supposed to care what people think now? It's not a popularity contest! I'm not saying he was supposed to bust everyone there, I'm saying that since he called in sick to go to this party with underage drinkers, he may not be the best fit for the job... that's all.

oh i know, but if he would have went the opposite way at the party people would definaltey think different to, good or bad depending on the person.

we had a few cops like that back in high school

LeftBrain Artist
03-14-2006, 05:33 PM
I think if we raised a stink, we could very quickly get the legal drinking age lowered to 18. Might only start at the state level, but that's a very good start.

I think we're supposed to haggle, politicians are used to dealing with arabs. Start at like 4 or 5, then work our way back to something more reasonable.

Yo, Satchel. So what job do ya think that joker is suited for? I'll say pizza delivery man.

reuber1
03-14-2006, 05:36 PM
I wouldn't mind if they lower the drinking age to 18, but there needs to be FAR greater consequences for driving drunk. Nobody cares until someone in their own family is the victim of such a tragedy. Found out more about that drunk driver last weekend, and he killed two people (not related, so there's two families that have lost a loved one...not that that's any better, just keeping score here), but the drunk driver has minor injuries. I hope that ass hole gets life, but he'll probably get a slap on the wrist.

Stever
03-14-2006, 05:43 PM
cops are supposed to care what people think now? It's not a popularity contest! I'm not saying he was supposed to bust everyone there, I'm saying that since he called in sick to go to this party with underage drinkers, he may not be the best fit for the job... that's all.

Agreed. He's obligated to uphold the law at all times....not just when on duty. If he participates in breaking the law, or looks the other way when it is violated, especially in a case such as this, he should be canned.

I also agree if someone is considered adult enough to join the military and offer his/her life for their country, then they should be allowed to have all privileges that are granted adults.

Unfortunately, justice is blind, and as LeftBrain Artist already eluded to, in today's environment that is an understatement



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