Adobe and Intel Mac

[dgrotz]

Does anyone know if Adobe plans, or has a patch to run nativly on the Intel Mac? Do we have to wait till the next software update? I'm also curious about Autodesk Maya and Quark XPress. :confused: I know all these will run under Rosseta but will be compromised. :o

Thanks for any ideas,
Dave

[fyred1]

According to the Photoshop Guys at Photoshop TV, the Intel stuff won't be out until the third quarter of 2007. Glad I'm on a PC (for now):p

[dgrotz]

Do those apps run faster under Windowz if you boot that on an Intel Mac? 3rd Quarter of '07 is quite a wait. :eek:

Thanks,
Dave

[fyred1]

I have to assume that Windoze would be running under emulation also. Maybe one of the hardcore Mac guys can answer that one. I'm interested in finding out myself...

[PrintDriver]

CS3 is supposed to be native to Intel but not coming out until near the end of this year or later.

Quark? Who Knows WHAT their program really runs on... V7 was due out last month (unless I missed the date change on the release...LOL). Because it is being totally revamped to some kind of opensource, be happy if it runs, let alone on a Mactel.

People jumped too soon to the Mactel. The programmers hadn't been able to get their hot little hands on the thing to see if their programming worked before release and now they are all jammin' to get up and running. I'm holding out.

It will be interesting to see what a real cross platform Mac/Mactel file is going to do to our workflow.

[jimking]

I've heard you can load your older software on the IntelMacs. It will be like OS9 was on OS10. I see a nightmare forming. Again.

[Silence04]

from all the intel vs. G5 photoshop benchmarks i've seen, it seems to me that rossetta holds up pretty well, about the same speed as the Power PC G5.

[jimking]

Sinse we recieve at work every kind of file imageable, we bought new g5s and a new workflow, compatible issues I'm concerned with.

[Patrick Shannon]

I read somewhere recently that they're targeting quarter one of 2007, not three. This would fall under their typical 18 month upgrade cycle from CS2, May of 2005.

You can run PowerPC apps on Intel Macs but I don't think it's fair to compare it to running OS9 apps on X. Classic involved booting a whole other operating system running in OS X. Rosetta is more of a instruction translator (PowerPC to X86)...not to mention the applications are "technically" still native to the operating system (just not the chip).

While you do feel the speed hit, more RAM helps dramatically with both Photoshop and Rosetta. I'm happy with it's performance until the Intel update, and if you're moving up from a really old G4, it will still be a speed upgrade.

[jimking]

I read somewhere recently that they're targeting quarter one of 2007, not three. This would fall under their typical 18 month upgrade cycle from CS2, May of 2005.

You can run PowerPC apps on Intel Macs but I don't think it's fair to compare it to running OS9 apps on X. Classic involved booting a whole other operating system running in OS X. Rosetta is more of a instruction translator (PowerPC to X86)...not to mention the applications are "technically" still native to the operating system (just not the chip).

While you do feel the speed hit, more RAM helps dramatically with both Photoshop and Rosetta. I'm happy with it's performance until the Intel update, and if you're moving up from a really old G4, it will still be a speed upgrade.
I realize that. Just digging for a comparison. My understanding is the software used now will have to be rewritten for the Intel and it's only the new version of the software that you'll be able to notice the speed. If that's the case if a particular file was sent lets say from a rewritten InDesign file to a printer who has only the older version, could that printer open that file?

[PrintDriver]

^That's what I'm wondering.

From what I heard CS3 is supposed to be Fat (old and new mac OS). But I'm wondering how cross compatible the files will be. Time to clear off more space on my desk for yet a third machine? (we still have an OS9 booter for those still clinging to PM and Q4.)

[Patrick Shannon]

I can't speak for any changes that Adobe might make with backwards compatibility to the old version of the software (saving from InDesign CS down to ID2 required a plugin), but there shouldn't be anything to worry about as far as the files it saves on PowerPC Mac versus Intel Mac. For that matter, the Intel Windows files and Mac PowerPC files for such programs are the same kind of files (but fonts, file extensions and things are another issue). Heck, back during the Classic days, you could open up your OS X saved Adobe items in OS 9 programs (booted) and vice versa.

My Intel version of Final Cut Pro didn't have to convert my Final Cut Pro PowerPC files, because it's still all the same program...just being run by a different processor. The file system is still running HFS on Mac.

Now there's one exception to some things. If you're using some sort of favorite plugin for a particular program, it may not work on the Intel version if they're still PowerPC. A good example of this was Flash, the PowerPC Flash plugin couldn't run on Safari unless you opened up Safari to run under Rosetta.

[Patrick Shannon]

I have to assume that Windoze would be running under emulation also. Maybe one of the hardcore Mac guys can answer that one. I'm interested in finding out myself...

With Bootcamp, Windows is booted natively so it will run full speed. It's no different than a PC.

With Parallels inside OS X, it's going to run a little slower, but I saw a benchmark that put the speed of Windows Photoshop inside Parallels faster than Rosetta Photoshop.