Need Some Help Here

[senjula]

HI Everyone...need some pointers before going back to work on this piece. This time I have tried very hard to keep my porportions accurate. However I am seeing it as looking off, which seems to be the case with me. What looks right to others seems lacking to me. So before I go any further I wanted your opinions seeing as they helped so much with the last piece.

Keep in mind this piece is nowhere near being finished, I have a lot of pixels and edges to clean up along with a lot more detail to add. So what I am looking for is feedback on the body porportions, and the lighting. The sun is setting in the background, however I am trying to incorporate a sense of light from the front of the characters.

the areas I am not sure about are the shading on his face, the size of her arm which goes behind him and the perspective of the tackle box...I havent even started the details on her clothing or her hand yet.

A little bit of background on the piece, it is for my husband, that is supposed to be us on a fishing trip...lol..I have over done some aspects of me but it is a fantasy drawing for him..lol..

The boat in the background is an actual picture of us in our boat I just pasted in there....

any hoot I am rambling so I am here searching for direction so feel free to direct! thanks :)
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/4650/review8yg.jpg

[Jeizzavelle]

The woman looks like a body builder. Don't get me wrong, I am amazed. I am trying to find flaws. Her shirt (at the bottom) doesn't look right. Uh...The glow around the sun looks off but I like the picture. Oh, and on the back of the motorcycle? Those stick things? I don't know what they are. It might just be me though.

[steve-o]

fishing poles

[twogun]

senjua, since seeing your first posts i have been racking my brain as to the artist your style reminds me of..............finally i have had remembered, Beryl Cook.

not sure if you are aware of this British artist but i do feel you have a similar style about you, check her work out at:

https://www.secured-space.com/berylcook/pages/welcome.asp

she is very successful over here and her work fetches big bucks as you say, keep on going!!

[fyred1]

There is a bit too much shirt on the female figure. hehehe... :p

Looks good so far!

[Jeizzavelle]

fishing poles
That was my first thought. See? It was me. I like it though.

[senjula]

Fishing poles...lol..okay so I need some feedback on whether or not the shadows are correct and facial features....yes I could tone down the top a bit...he would like that...

[Mynock]

The shadows are all wrong on his face. The darkest shadow is facing the sun.

[Tyger]

I think you are headed in the right direction but ther are a few things to point out.
As Mynock mentioned...that shadows need to be adjusted. There are a few edges that are jagged especially around the women hand and arm. The colour of the fising poles are distracting...they are too bright and get the attention of the eyes instead of the focus point which is the woman and man. The fender of the bike looks off..way too high and even if it was the correct position for the fender there should be the top part of the tire there. The boat sticks out and doesn't blend with the overall look of the pic.

Keep on it!

[senjula]

The shadows are all wrong on his face. The darkest shadow is facing the sun.

Yes I am a silly one, "Miss put the background in last" here....at first I was going to go with a city theme, had her in a gown...then changed my mind yesterday...either I will stick with the sun and adjust their shadows or I will bring a hint of sun up higher behind some storm clouds....with a more prominent light source from the front

[Tyger]

oh..and the handle bars could use more work, maybe more detail....my 2 cents, but what do I know :p


What program are you using?

[Jeizzavelle]

The woman's chest (boobies) is off. Women are curvier than that. I do like it though. I don't want you to feel like I hate it. Just trying to pick for you with a fresh set of eyes. :)

[morea]

either I will stick with the sun and adjust their shadows or I will bring a hint of sun up higher behind some storm clouds....with a more prominent light source from the front

sounds like you've got it all thought out... looking good so far. I agree with Tyger that I would tone down the color of the fishing poles a little, maybe the colors on the bike as well... also consider adding the top of the tire under the fender. Maybe throw a little texture onto the fence in the background?

To blend the boat so it fits the style more, you could try image > adjustment > posterize OR filter > artistic > cutout and play with the settings to make it fit in a little more with the style of the piece.

What a nice idea for a gift for your husband! I'm the sort of gal who really appreciates specially made gifts more than store bought ones. Looking nice so far, keep up the good work!

[senjula]

the poles are really bright! just threw those on last minute after the tackle box...we have Neon poles that we really do use...lol..almost glow in the dark, but I will definitly tone them down a lot more...each time I open the piece I cringe at the bike overall...to me the fender looks like some alien robot tail..I have decided to leave the bike to the very last and pracitce some skethes...so I guess the eyes nose and mouths are all in proper perspective so I will leave those unless any one thinks any differently.

Still have to tone down the chest a bit...:eek:

[senjula]

oh..and the handle bars could use more work, maybe more detail....my 2 cents, but what do I know :p


What program are you using?

Still using Photoshop even though I promised myself I would try illustrator with my next piece....I know the edges are still ragged havent touched her yet in that aspect....However I am now using my new Wacom tablet!!!! maybe try illustrator on the next one...

[senjula]

[QUOTE=twogun]senjua, since seeing your first posts i have been racking my brain as to the artist your style reminds me of..............finally i have had remembered, Beryl Cook.

not sure if you are aware of this British artist but i do feel you have a similar style about you, check her work out at:


Thank you for giving me an artist to look at, and yes I do agree in the similarites especially with her use of color. Her work is really fun!

[kerrysmagicshirt]

you are definatly getting better each time senjula. Soemone said the lady looks like a body builder - i think this is because her head is a little small. and on the left boobie curve her top in to add the shape - but that is all i have too add - the rest has been covered or is great.

i'm interested in how you work - do you have a photo on your desk and just look from that to the screen, or do you drop the pic into photoshop and work over that? i think by having the actual photo as a layer in photoshop will deffo help you sort out and problems with proportions etc. but honestly you get better everytime.

[senjula]

I am often curious how I work to...In this paticular piece I had some old camping photos I was sketching from...for My Guy I sketched over an old photo just the outline and now am attempting to fill him in free hand...I did clip the boat out of a photo and his glasses out of a photo too and pasted them in. For Her I am using a photo of a woman I found online as reference but trying to make changes to look more like me, minus the bust! But eh its a fantasy drawing right!

I am finding the Wacom Tablet is really helping much more control then the Mouse.
You mentioned improvement, well on my website the Archive section if filled with very flat and undetailed work, that was only a year ago...I take advice each time it is given and make myself learn more. Drawing on the computer is a whole new thing for me, but a lot easier then having paints and stuff around with children.

Well here is advice taken so far, I got rid of the sun, darkend the rods...and roughend up the water a bit to make it look stormy....now I will take further advice and go work on the fence posts....and eventually the Boobies and all the rest.....So do the shadows work now? or are her shadows messed up?

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/878/review24me.jpg

[Jeizzavelle]

I like it. I think it's turning out great. You take advice well. You can see where you took everything everyone said and worked it out.

[jayesh84]

yeh the shadows work better now, but his wearing sun glasses when theres no sun hehe

[senjula]

taking advice is the only way I would ever learn...at times in the past it was the harshest critics that made me want to do better...and I am getting there slowly

[senjula]

yeh the shadows work better now, but his wearing sun glasses when theres no sun hehe

there was sun only moments ago as he pulled onto the dock...Storms up in Northern Canada can come on quickly when fishing...he just hasnt had time to take them off yet.....or another way to look at it...I was having major issues with the eyes ...:o

[Logo-Mechanix]

Eyes are some of the toughest things to illustrate, along with hands and feet. I like the overall piece, my only suggestion would be to try and make it more flowing and a little less stiff (for lack of a better word). In other words maybe add some flow to the hair and clothjing. I like how you made the water rough and the sky stormy, pretty cool, I wouldn't want to be in that boat though, with that storm a brewin'.

[senjula]

but some of the best fishing occurs only moments before a storm.....netting them ain't that fun with the winds gusting though....of course the occasional lightening bolts also make you think twice....

Okay here is the fence post...and thats a day for me boys about to come home from school...keep the suggestions coming so I know where to pick up tommorrow
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/7559/fence0qp.jpg

[Mynock]

I think the white on the boat is a little too brite. I think it should be more muted as there is no sun to give it it's bright color.

[kerrysmagicshirt]

shades - yeah but he look cool right!
it's deffinatly coming together nicely - and now you're developing your skills it's a very interesting technique.

Damn i need a wacom tab.