Panache

[erichmond]

This is more to show my thought process and technique but is also a crit, go on be nasty.

The Brief (excuse the typo's... bloody acount handlers!)
"Logo design required - for hairdressers

panache - check meaning - feathers??

Allow for strap line - sonething like - be inspired
contemporary but not offputting - contemporrry/classic
mod - light/friend;ly/warmth

Althou predominantly female clientele - does have male customes

quite likes bold vibrant colours ( i thougt Aubergine??) but interior will be quite muted with lots of wood so needs to fit with this.

Will need to work as signage above a shop as well as stationery elements/embroidered uniforms"

First stage ideas (http://www.squareonemd.co.uk/images/pana.jpg)

After debate in the studio this is what will be presented to the client:
Option 1 (http://www.squareonemd.co.uk/images/panb.jpg)
Option 2 (http://www.squareonemd.co.uk/images/panc.jpg)
Option 3 (http://www.squareonemd.co.uk/images/pand.jpg)
Option 4 (http://www.squareonemd.co.uk/images/pane.jpg)

Your thoughts appreciated in advance.

[Rehab]

Option 1 is the only one that has any kind of contemporary feel. The others feel very 1970's home call hairdresser, if that makes any sense.

Having said that the feather illustration in option 1 needs attention.

I would discount all of the other 3.

[Sketcher]

Of those, I like 3 and 4. The feather in 1 looks as though it might get lost when it's scaled down to a smaller size.

[PrintDriver]

"aubergine"? Bold color? It isn't a standard sign vinyl color. Paint it or print it.

[Eraser Nubbin]

I am not feeling 2 and 4.
1 and 3 I can handle.
I think I like 1 the best... 3 almost says coffee to me.

I looked the word up to and the other def. is "1. Dash or flamboyance in manner or style." purple, blue might work. When I see panache, I think flaming....
I think option 1 would work best for signage.

[Eraser Nubbin]

maybe try maroon/bergundy...

[vtwin_gary]

not a very original name for a salon.
click here (http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10669&highlight=business+card)
here's a card i did for a friend that worked (she has since moved on) at a salon named panache

[emmerse]

#3 is the only one that says hair dressers to me. 4 maybe, but the P is hard to make out unless you stop to think about it. #1 and #2 are too clinical for the organic nature of the business.

[vtwin_gary]

my vote is #3 it looks more like hair than a feather.

[balou]

I like #3 the best. The illustration is feather-like but is a more strong hair image to me. I do feel it separates the word panache too much. Reads to me as two separate words Pan & Ache.

[cjoe]

i like the execution of 3 the best, it looks the most professional. Panache, doesn't just mean feather btw. It can also mean a bold, confident, distinctive style; he approached his dress with certain panache. (its pronounced panash)

[AlexNJ210]

^^^^thats a great post cjoe. Id work with that definition. Let it guide your design. Right now you are embracing the feather idea, and it seems a bit too delicate. I think it needs to stand out more, BE more "bold,...,distinctive" . Thats all i have. For the application, i really only like #3, but im not a big fan. This seems like a tough project, but for some help id work with that definition.

[LuLu]

definately #3 IMO. But don't stop there (unless the client already picked one!) you have some great ideas and should keep trying with them. BTW I have been to many hair salons, and this logo is a cut above the rest. (please excuse my weak pun)

[Ovaltine]

Of the 4 I like #3 the best. Having said that, the feather looks more like steam from a cup of coffe to me. I do get the hair thing too, but it would need to have a head for me to see it as hair.
Cjoe's definition of Panache makes more sense with regards to a hair salon.

This is, maybe, cheesy, but what if one of the a's was a simple head (same color as the rest of the word) and the wavey icon was hair (a different color- so as not to make the "a" look like a "g") Don't all of you gang up on me at once :).

[vtwin_gary]

i like the execution of 3 the best, it looks the most professional. Panache, doesn't just mean feather btw. It can also mean a bold, confident, distinctive style; he approached his dress with certain panache. (its pronounced panash)


i was told (see earlier post when i did a salon with the same name) that in ment stylish or fashionable. i think it's french. any frenchies here to varify.

[cjoe]

i was told (see earlier post when i did a salon with the same name) that in ment stylish or fashionable. i think it's french. any frenchies here to varify.

exactly, if you google it it comes up with this for english:


Definitions of panache on the Web:

* [French] mixed.
www.recipestogo.com/glossary/glossaryP.html

* is a six-ply, bright 100% acrylic with 2,200 yds/lb. As the name implies, this cotton-like acrylic is perfect for garments for all seasons. Machine wash/Tumble dry.
www.newtons.com/yarnglos.htm

* dash: distinctive and stylish elegance; "he wooed her with the confident dash of a cavalry officer"
* a feathered plume on a helmet
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* A shandy (shortened form of shandygaff) is a cocktail made from a mixture of beer (often ale) and a non-alcoholic beverage. The non-alcoholic beverage is usually lemonade in Europe and ginger ale in the Caribbean. The proportions of the two ingredients are adjusted to taste, normally half-and-half, although shandy sold in tins is typically much weaker, around 1 part beer to 10 parts lemonade.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaché



I was fairly close with the def.

The definition for french (translated by babelfish)


n a nuclear thermal power station, this term applies: - with the vapor rejected by the atmospheric cooling agents, - with the accidental rejections of radioactive wastes by the chimney: in this case, the representation of the plume thoroughly is calculated and measured starting from precise weather data, the speed and the direction of the wind strongly conditioning the impact of rejected gas.


Talk about mixed meanings. I'm not sure how useful that would be for a hairdressing salon :)

[Ovaltine]

From the on-line Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
Main Entry: pa·nache http://www.m-w.com/images/audio.gif (http://javascript<img%20src=&quot;images/smilies/tongue.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Stick%2 0Out%20Tongue&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;5&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;% 20/>opWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?panach02.wav=panache')) http://www.m-w.com/images/audio.gif (http://javascript<img%20src=&quot;images/smilies/tongue.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Stick%2 0Out%20Tongue&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;5&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;% 20/>opWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?panach01.wav=panache'))
Pronunciation: p&-'nash, -'näsh
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French pennache, from Old Italian pennacchio, from Late Latin pinnaculum small wing -- more at PINNACLE (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/pinnacle)
1 : an ornamental tuft (as of feathers) especially on a helmet
2 : dash or flamboyance in style and action : VERVE (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/verve)

I think Definition #2 best applies. The sound links didn't work, but if you go to the site (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/panache), they do.

[Cass54321]

I would have to say my favorite also is number three. It is the only one that gave the appearance of hair.

[erichmond]

i like the execution of 3 the best, it looks the most professional. Panache, doesn't just mean feather btw. It can also mean a bold, confident, distinctive style; he approached his dress with certain panache. (its pronounced panash)
Agreed, unfortunately both client and AC want to see a feather?

[erichmond]

definately #3 IMO. But don't stop there (unless the client already picked one!) you have some great ideas and should keep trying with them. BTW I have been to many hair salons, and this logo is a cut above the rest. (please excuse my weak pun)
LOL Thank you

[erichmond]

i was told (see earlier post when i did a salon with the same name) that in ment stylish or fashionable. i think it's french. any frenchies here to varify.
Origin 16th century, from French panache, from Italy pennacchio, from late latin pinnaculum, diminutive of pinna "feather"!

[erichmond]

Thanks for all you views, all constructive, I like the idea of making the a like a head (albeit a little cheesy, but I think the client would like it) I will look at developing the idea, if you don't mind Ovaltine. Looks like 3 is the most popular, personally 4 is the one for me, of course this is all subjective and the client might hate them all, but at least then I will no what they don't like and approach the project in a different way.
My experience of this process is:
a) concise brief from client
b) visualise
c) present, client dislikes
d) client give's new brief with different name!!!!!!!
e) I laugh, rub my hands and charge double the original quote :p

[style]

came late on this one but.. i like three...
would maybe change the colours though, if they are having woody sort of interiour maybe go for rusts and oranges?
just a thought.
good luck