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LeftBrain Artist
05-12-2006, 02:18 PM
I'm using InDesign CS on OS X - 10.3.9 - doin' a catalog. The find font dialog box indicates two fonts are missing (Helvetica and Helvetica Medium Type 1), even though they show a character count of 0 and are not present on any pages. I did find them in several character and paragraph styles, and deleted those styles, yet the fonts still show up as missing in the find font dialog box. Choosing the Change All option to replace all instances of those fonts with one that is readily available does nothing - it remains as a missing font in the find font box.
Is there a pre-existing thread for this problem? Anyone know how to clear those fonts from the document? It doesn't really adversely affect working with the catalog, but still, it irritates me to see that for some reason. I'm betting there's something goofy with the original document and I could copy and paste the layout elements to a new document and the problem would clear up. But that's going to be more trouble than its worth.
jimking
05-12-2006, 02:37 PM
Try using the "show font". It could be a space but you're right it's from the original. What program was the original?
LeftBrain Artist
05-12-2006, 02:57 PM
Its a catalog I've been handling since 2001, at that time I was using OS 9 and Quark 4.11. A couple of years back when we made the switch to InDesign CS and OS X, this catalog was converted from Quark to InDesign. Up until the version I'm currently working on, the catalog had extensively used Helvetica (how original). But. When we went to OS X, the flavor of Helvetica that was in use previously was no longer available, so I now use Helvetica Neue to replace instances of the old Helvetica used by any ressurrected documents. The two Helvetica fonts which my document is currently looking for (medium and light condensed), and which were used three years ago, may very well have been corrupt.
I've tried the Find First option, but no dice - it goes nowhere. Even if it was a space, that would have been considered a character and so should have shown up in the character count for the missing font.
Helvetica sucks. I blame the Swedish for this.
jimking
05-12-2006, 03:24 PM
From experience I've seen this a thousand times. If it's a job that's going to the printer, almost 100% of the time those ghost fonts will not be a problem. Just let them know. You can try a process of elemination by deleting pages to see which page is giving you the problem, then rebuild just those pages.
PrintDriver
05-12-2006, 05:00 PM
All you need is an unused text box someplace that is tagged to use each of those fonts. It might not even be a styled text box, just one that was opened with either of those two fonts selected.
You could look at the pages with frames showing to see if you have any stray text boxes. But it might be too small to see if it was pulled by mistake and not caught.
I wish someone would write a plug-in for InD that finds empty text boxes. And stray points and spaces between words or at end of paragraphs with different text attributes (or have a different color applied!!!) <sigh>
rickself
05-12-2006, 05:27 PM
Seems Indy puts Times in every time you put in a new image holder. Seems kinda dumb! (IMHO)
benjo
05-13-2006, 12:53 AM
Coming from a Quark background I had to find this.
Type>Find Font.