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beatz01
05-21-2006, 10:01 PM
I dunno,

i'm not long in the biz (4 1/2 years) but i thought there were some standards to what makes a good logo, amongst them that a good logo should work in b/w as well as color and that the logo should somehow transport either the core nature of a business, it's values etc or at least be clever with the initials.

But lately i see all these "web.20" logos everywhere, seems the new hype.
Full of gradients, PS drop shadows, shiny "orb" effects and whatnow.No type treatment in 90%, and the icon itself often not more than a generic symbol (leaf, book or whatever) or just the plain company initials.No clever idea, no "works in b/w", no message, no nothing what i used to believe makes a good logo.

Apart from the lack of "cleverness", don't these companies realize how difficult it will be to use their logo on a fax or copy machine or how complicated and *costy* it will be to print their logo wall-size ?!

Reminds me alot of the dotcom craze where everybody and their mother had to have a swoosh or spiral logo because they thought it made them look future or technology.I really thought the days of these non.meaning logos were gone...?!

I had a client recently who insisted on their logo to be done in "web 2.0" style (their words) which meant for the first time since ages i had to throw in all that shiny gradient gloss shadow orb crap and even take that logo to Photoshop - urgh.

So what's up with that ? Seems to me the latest hype but don't you agree most of these logos are not good logos in the true sense ?

P.S. If you have no idea what i'm talking about take a look at these web 2.0 logo collections :
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=93136022&size=o
http://www.web2logo.com/

And in case you think these are logos from 1999, they're not - they just look like.

typographics
05-21-2006, 10:43 PM
as technology climbs, creativy descends.

ps. initials make horrible logos, unless you want to be remembered by your initials.

EC
05-21-2006, 10:46 PM
I use my initials in my logo. :/

beatz01
05-21-2006, 10:48 PM
I think initials can make great logos when used in a creative way (like ,take the intitals and build something meaningful out of them).

But i agree, just the initials in untreated type (a lot of what these web 2 logos basically consist of) is a bit low to say the least.

EC
05-21-2006, 10:48 PM
this to me is the quintessential web 2.0 logo. it has all the elements!! lol http://www.web2list.com/logo/5000/34_1141958359.jpg

cjoe
05-21-2006, 10:49 PM
i don't see why you should differentiate between "web 1.0" and "web 2.0", its the same thing, with IPv2

beatz01
05-21-2006, 10:57 PM
"web 2.0" is not my words, actually that's what i mean : It's all hype, isn't it.

Also, it seems that "web 2.0" not only means the technical side of things but everyone wants to come across as "social", "simple", "warm company" etc now, combined with again "future" (dotcom bubble burst alert !), "techy","new" but "easy to handle", blahblah.

I think time will show that a web 2 logo doesn't make a successful company, just like the swoosh didn't make a successful company in the 90's.

colonel5
05-22-2006, 03:17 PM
beatz, i do agree with the standards you listed about logos, but i think an element you don't touch on in your arguement is the media that they will be used in. With web 2.0 99.9% of these company's logo usage is on the web so

1) they are able to get away with the gradients, drop shadows, etc a little bit easier

&

2) the times their logo is printed is going to be internal use 90% of that .1%

&

3) a lot of companies are moving to the "mulitple logo" logos so though they may use those logos on the web there is a good chance they have an alternate version they use for print etc.

But I do agree with you that a lot of those logos are not very good (from the links you posted to)

captain spanky
05-22-2006, 03:39 PM
i think i am missing something here... i've heard 'web2.0' before but i have no idea what it means... does if just mean something for the web? or am i being just really stoooopid?

and are these logos not just logos created for use on the web only (so normal printing/colour rules don't need to apply)?

Patrick Shannon
05-22-2006, 03:56 PM
Web 2.0, eh? Reminds me how you see rabbit ears antennas in the electronic stores that are "optimized for HDTV," it's all marketing bullcrap. I can pick up OTA HDTV stations with one of those "wire" antennas that come on FM stereos (and sadly, it picks up reception better than these so-called 'amplified' antennas) ;)

G-Man79
05-22-2006, 04:49 PM
i think i am missing something here... i've heard 'web2.0' before but i have no idea what it means... does if just mean something for the web? or am i being just really stoooopid?

and are these logos not just logos created for use on the web only (so normal printing/colour rules don't need to apply)?

web 2.0 is a movement towards a more app-based web experience. least that's my take on it...

Mynock
05-22-2006, 05:13 PM
I agree with Colon5.

PrintDriver
05-22-2006, 05:45 PM
I don't.

You don't know how many web companies say to me when I ask them for their logo for their building signage (Or trade show banners. Or booth graphics. Etc.) and I get a Web logo, "Well, we never really thought it would ever be printed bigger than letterhead."

But as Colonel5 says, some companies do have it right and have multiple standards for their identity. And hopefully a book to keep em straight.

colonel5
05-22-2006, 08:48 PM
I agree with Colon5.

damn right

except for when you shorten my name it becomes colon, which is kind of odd...

Mynock
05-22-2006, 09:09 PM
What the deuce!?!
damn right

except for when you shorten my name it becomes colon, which is kind of odd...