CSS3 Preview

[SurfPark]

http://www.joostdevalk.nl/code/css3-preview/

This site posts some of the upcoming new effects that are going to be in the upcoming CSS 3 standards. They also have live examples of these on the site, which can only be viewed in Opera, and some in FireFox or Safari.

Personally, most of the additions are unneeded cosmetic tools that make the pages look cooler by using native code (no hacks). Rounded corners, RBG/Opacity control for colors, and more border control are nice, but not really need. What I am excited about is the media queries, which can be declared so that the site will become full adjustable within PDAs and cell phones.

What's kind of cool is that the three leaders in browsers Opera, WebKit (Safari) and Mozilla (Firefox) all impliment some of these new additions but require you place their code [i.e. -moz-] before the CSS3 is applied. It keeps it kind of organized so we don't have a mishmash of CSS2 and CSS3 sites all over the web. Check it out and explore the site! I'm just getting into learning CSS and this is really exciting.

[morea]

shoot, I didn't know there was a CSS2.

Good thing I'm not a web designer!

[1ooScreamingTrees]

text-shadow? ew.

[HUNT]

Yea, our office just upgraded to CS2, but really I see little differences other than extra filters (like adding Streamline as a filter named autotrace).

Did they ever come out with a program that could convert Quark files over to InDesign?

[urstwile]

Hunt,

Um, SurfPark's post actually relates to CSS (style sheets for web programming), not the Adobe Creative Suite. :o

However, there is a plug-in that will convert Quark files to InDesign. We just got it at work, and it works fine. It's called Q2ID, by Markzware. Goes for $200, but worth having on at least one machine, methinks.

I now return this post to its originally scheduled topic. :rolleyes:

[HUNT]

How funny is that! I read CS3 rather than CSS3.

Thanks for the info though. I need to get that pogram.

[morea]

css isn't a program, it's a coding language.

[JPnyc]

its not a program though, it's a formatting language. You don't need to buy anything, just need to learn the language.

[morea]

jinx.

[JPnyc]

jinx dis!

[G-Man79]

God, if clients get wind of that text shadow effect and request it, I'll put my head in a Ronco Food Dehydrator.

[Patrick Shannon]

Oooooh, multiple backgrounds! That's going to help to eliminate "div-itis" when styling websites with layered backgrounds. I also like the new border options, especially border image and rounded borders.

Don't know how fast universal browser support for all of this will roll out, but IE will screw it up, of course.

[JPnyc]

I wouldn't worry bout it. MS has finally gotten that there's competition out there now and rather than lose their browser dominance, I'm betting they'll be more conscientious about standards compliance.

[SurfPark]

Yeah, Microsoft is trying hard to catch up to standards compliance, but its a long road. Unlike their competition, they've been plagued with security issues and have been ignoring CSS glitches for a while. I found this blog post (http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2005/07/28/ie7_css_upda/) that talks about how they've been improving CSS support throughout the IE7 Beta testing.

Sorry for the mix up between "CS" and "CSS". CSS stands for Cascading Style Sheets, and its basically a formatting language that allows the web to not be confined to traditional text formatting and tables. Kind of makes web pages more free and lets you break the grid more. Fun stuff. :)

Also, the shadowed text effect is frigging useless! Who actually uses this? Now maybe if you could apply the shadowed style to an image (thumbnails?) it might actually make sense.

[JPnyc]

Drop shadow is neat I think, if use subtlely.

[chris_bcn]

yay! CSS3 has lots of great features. Can't wait to start using it in 2015!!!! Seeing as CSS 2 (2.1) has only just got decent support I won't hold my breath. CSS columns looks interesting though

[1ooScreamingTrees]

Who actually uses this?

Everyone and their mother as soon as they make it a drop box option in the next Adobe Dreamweaver!

[benjo]

This sounds useless really.

The rounded boxes and drop shadow effects are very lame. As designers we passed these limitations years ago and now in CSS 3 (which won't be supported for a few years) has them included.

What we need next is an AJAX built CMS software where we only upload the look as a designer and let the CMS arrange all the content.

There are so many things that we can use to improve web building technology why even worry about trendy features.

[chris_bcn]

I would never let a program spit out code for me - ever

CSS 3 has lots of great features, but it'll be a long time before we can implement them

[morea]

I would never let a program spit out code for me - ever

me neither! I prefer magic. :D

[NewEra]

God, if clients get wind of that text shadow effect and request it, I'll put my head in a Ronco Food Dehydrator.

back to same delmma
who should i follow?
http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10611

[JPnyc]

The client. They're paying, they're the boss. You owe it to them and yourself to try and make them understand why they perhaps SHOULDN'T do a particular thing, but failing that, they're the last word. That's good business, and business isn't art.

[G-Man79]

Just because my head would be void of all moisture doesn't mean I would refuse to do my job.

Always try and educate the client on what works/looks good vs. what doesn't work/look good. If they don't budge or comprehend, put on your flac jacket, tighten your belt and do what they say.

[reuber1]

How funny is that! I read CS3 rather than CSS3.So did I, even though it's under web design.