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rickself
05-23-2006, 07:43 PM
Adobe is sposed to work together so well, why can't I put a 2 color DCS 2 file from Photoshop into illy? I've tried both eps and psd. The image is Black and 1795. It's not a duotone. hrmph.

The error I'm getting:
Linked DCS EPS files that interact with transparency are present and will not print accurately.
jimking
05-23-2006, 08:01 PM
Rick, check this tread out. http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16429&highlight=spot+color
rickself
05-23-2006, 08:24 PM
That's kinda what I'm talking about but the entire file is done in Illy with the dcs file placed in. I can't take it to Indy.
Over in Prepressforums, they have an old thread about changing the background layer to layer 0, but the layer is locked and I can't unlock it.
jimking
05-23-2006, 08:35 PM
I don't have those versions in front of me at the moment. Can you export the file out of illy?
PersonasBinar
05-23-2006, 09:06 PM
Adobe is sposed to work together so well, why can't I put a 2 color DCS 2 file from Photoshop into illy? I've tried both eps and psd. The image is Black and 1795. It's not a duotone. hrmph.

The error I'm getting:
Linked DCS EPS files that interact with transparency are present and will not print accurately.

Do they interact with transparency? If they do that will totally throw a wrench in the works. Black and pantone?....do that in indesign I think.
Silence04
05-23-2006, 09:08 PM
It won't print accurately with a regular Composite print, but when you print your seps you will see that everything is fine...
PersonasBinar
05-23-2006, 09:26 PM
or save it as a PDF and look at your seps there.
Craig B
05-23-2006, 09:26 PM
That's kinda what I'm talking about but the entire file is done in Illy with the dcs file placed in. I can't take it to Indy.
Over in Prepressforums, they have an old thread about changing the background layer to layer 0, but the layer is locked and I can't unlock it.

usually you can "unlock" a background layer simply by double clicking it (which will default to calling it "layer 0") … I'm not sure if that will help.
jimking
05-23-2006, 09:31 PM
In your workflow Rick you may have to send it as a seperation instead of a composite.
jimking
05-23-2006, 09:39 PM
It won't print accurately with a regular Composite print, but when you print your seps you will see that everything is fine...
Sorry Silence didn't realize you said the samething. :(
rickself
05-23-2006, 11:49 PM
The guys (one-mack in particular) over at Prepressforums.com had run into this awhile back.
To use a dcs file in Illy, you have to make the PSD DCS file a CMYK file, plus the spot. If the dcs file is 2 channels, say black and 1795, add channels for C,M,and Y, keeping them blank or white, make the image a CMYK image, add the spot channel and save as either a PSD or eps. Illy will not work with a Multichannel file.

Re-link in Illy and you're good to go.
PrintDriver
05-24-2006, 03:46 AM
No wonder you guys are friggin lunatics. I'm glad we don't get that crap. We get other kinds of crap but not like that... :eek:
jimking
05-24-2006, 12:54 PM
No wonder you guys are friggin lunatics. I'm glad we don't get that crap. We get other kinds of crap but not like that... :eek:
It's all about seperating. If we didn't have to seperate it wouldn't be so bad.
rickself
05-24-2006, 01:00 PM
No wonder you guys are friggin lunatics. I'm glad we don't get that crap. We get other kinds of crap but not like that... :eek:I 'm no friggin lunatic! I'm a Stooge! nyuk nyuk nyuk!
jimking
05-24-2006, 01:08 PM
Rick, before you changed the file, did you try sending it as a seperation instead of a composite to your workflow?
rickself
05-24-2006, 01:12 PM
Rick, before you changed the file, did you try sending it as a seperation instead of a composite to your workflow?I did send it as a separation, but the rip won't trap a separated file and it was next to impossible to manually trap it. In some ways I miss the Trapwise and Presswise workflow you mentioned the other day.
jimking
05-24-2006, 01:39 PM
I did send it as a separation, but the rip won't trap a separated file and it was next to impossible to manually trap it. In some ways I miss the Trapwise and Presswise workflow you mentioned the other day.
Heideberg's PrintReady will trap it. It goes to show you that workflows are so different. It's the thing that's burning me out.
PersonasBinar
05-24-2006, 01:52 PM
OR the workaround is the pantone becomes one of the CMY channels and you do it thusly. Old school workaround for all the grasshoppers out there.
chalsema
05-24-2006, 01:53 PM
One other thing. When the save dialog box comes up when you save the dcs 2 file make sure in the "dcs" drop down menu you select some type of composite. After I did that it let me view the picture (not very well though) in illy.
jimking
05-24-2006, 02:03 PM
OR the workaround is the pantone becomes one of the CMY channels and you do it thusly. Old school workaround for all the grasshoppers out there.
The problem with that nowadays is the customer is used to getting color proofs that look like their color. Some freak out when they see a process color instead. But some workflows allow you to map process colors to a chosen spot color but some flows will now allow you to map any process at all.