Creating Multiple Pages in AI?

[kellyportfolio]

Is there any way to create multiple pages in AI? I am looking to do a catalogue folks can scroll through vertically and convert it to a pdf. Thanks!

[morea]

Illy isn't really meant to be used for something like that. Your best bet would be a layout program like InDesign or Quark.

[Zendada]

I actually use AI for layouts sometimes. As for multiple pages, morea is correct. But check out Freehand. It is similar to AI but will let you do multi page.

[urstwile]

Or, if you must use Illy, make each page a separate file, and then use the Create PDF from multiple files feature in Acrobat Standard or Pro.

[Piscosour]

Or, if you must use Illy, make each page a separate file, and then use the Create PDF from multiple files feature in Acrobat Standard or Pro.

Try CorelDraw, multiple pages, PDFs (you don't need to create separate files) it is a waste of time....and the page orientation you want in the same document.

[CatintheHat1]

I make catalogs in Illy. Are there ANY other programs out there??? LOL There are two ways to do what you are describing. The first is, as someone mentioned, make each individual page and then go into Acrobat and add them all together, that's how I do it.

You can also do it this way: Make a document that is the size of all your pages side by side (so, if you have 3 letter-sized pages, you'd set up for 8.5 x 3 or 25.5 x 11). You can then use page tiling or guides to separate the pages. When you're done the layout go to PRINT, and in the Media section choose the Portrait Up icon. Then go to the SETUP catagory and set tiling to TILE FULL PAGES. Then create a PS file by changing the printer pop-up menu to Adobe PostScript File (might have to change print driver, too). SAVE the .ps file. Then, through Distiller open the .ps doc and the PDF file will be created in multiple pages.

I learned this from Dave Cross's Illustrator CS KillerTips.

Test will be on Tuesday ;)

[danedawg99]

good stuff, Cat!

[nyc_skater]

I think someone makes a multi page illy plug in as well.

Check out this website google.com, it lets you search the webernet or whatever they call it

[balou]

Yeah, but do your printers like this and are they charging extra for prep? I shared a cube with pre-press at my last job and she would moan and groan over layouts done completely in Illustrator. For some reason they caused a lot more problems in rip. I guess to each his own but I've always followed the rule: Illustrator for vector graphics, Photoshop for raster graphics, and InDesign or Quark for layout.

[PrintDriver]

There is a plug-in. It's a bad idea. Not supported in print (at least not the print I do). Not sure how it exports to pdf either cuz I don't use it. Not sure you can make it scroll either. Are you making this for web?

Multipaging Illustrator - I've seen some mighty clever and some mighty bone-headed ways to do it. Suffice to say, no matter what way it's done it almost always has to be broken down into individual files for each page or spread to get it to rip. And you betcha there is a charge for that!

[urstwile]

Yeah, when I suggested the multiple files into a PDF thing, it was based on the idea that the poster maybe had to use Illustrator for the layout. I should have also added:

DON'T DO IT! :D That is, if you have InDesign or Quark.

Really, for something like this, use a page layout program, if it's available to you. Or even Corel Draw or Freehand if that's available to you (I can't speak for Corel Draw since I've never used it).

[cjoe]

Oops, i was getting ahead of myself

[urstwile]

Yeah, CJoe, I posted about that earlier. And another responder stated that Corel Draw does multiple pages.

I'm curious to see what the original poster makes of all of this. :)

[panzer]

do it in quark or Indesign godsdammit

[CatintheHat1]

do it in quark or Indesign godsdammit

NO!! I refuse!! I simply cannot close Illy. I love Illy. Illy never lets me down.

I've never heard any Illy to PDF rip complaints though...you'd think my own printer that I use would let me know if I was driving him up a wall (it's a gift I have). LOL

[typographics]

as previously stated, freehand does multiple pages. thats one of the many reasons i continue to use it instead of illustrator.

[PrintDriver]

CatinHat - the page tiling method - do you send it to the printer set up this way or do you do the pdf's for him?

As always I speak in wide format language where you really shouldn't send pdfs (native layered files preferred) and who's to say my printer's default page tile is gonna land right where yours is? If it doesn't, that would suck.

[CatintheHat1]

Oh, gosh...only for PDF. I like my printer...LOL

But, I don't do the page tiling thing, if you read my post you'll see I just learned about it in a book. I compile the PDFs into one multi-page PDF in Acrobat and it's for catalogs - they'll only accept PDFs at the catalog printer.

Other than that, the only thing I ever design are book covers - Illy's the program for that job.

[twogun]

NO!! I refuse!! I simply cannot close Illy. I love Illy. Illy never lets me down.

I've never heard any Illy to PDF rip complaints though...you'd think my own printer that I use would let me know if I was driving him up a wall (it's a gift I have). LOL

here's my 10pence..................i used corel draw loads a few years back and must admit the multiple page facility is a big bonus, however!!!!

i only use corel if i have to these days, (live and die by illy and indy!!) if you dont want to use indesign or quark which are designed for this application, definately the way to complete this project is to create single pages files in illustrator, then to present to the client create a multiple page pdf within acrobat. you can alway use that high res pdf to send to the printer too, ive done this with no repro issues!

i have argued this point on the forum before, corel's colour management will not be good enough for repro......trust me!!!

[rickself]

Multiple page layouts in both Illy and Freehand are a prepress headache. Both see the "page" as the area occupied by the art on the pasteboard differently.

Freehand sees only what's on the "physical" page. If the art is 2"x3' on a letter sized page, Freehand only sees the 2"x3". If you leave extras on the pasteboard, Freehand does not see that as part of your page. So for prepress to take your multi-page Freehand file, export as eps to impose, I need to draw a bounding box around each page, including bleed. If anything hangs out past the bleed, I have to select that which goes past the bleed and paste inside the bounding box. Nothing can exceed that bounding box.

Illustrator sees what's on the "physical" page, PLUS anything that you leave on your pasteboard. If the art is 2"x3' on a letter sized page, and there is artwork off the page, Illustrator sees everything. In Illustrator, steps also need to be taken in the print options to set the page size and bleed properly. And a bounding box must be placed around the WHOLE art work, removing what is on the pasteboard.

Little tip: When applying crop marks in Illy, use the FILTER->Create crop marks, not the OBJECT->Crop area. The FILTER crop marks will BECOME part of the eps when saved, the OBJECT Crop area will not.

Multi page docs...stick to page layout apps, please!

[kellyportfolio]

Thanks for all your feedback!
I wish I hadn't been sick the day they were teaching pagemaker back in college. I always use Illustrator and unfortunately, I run into this problem sometimes of trying to use illustrator as a layout tool. I am not a designer, but an illustrator who sometimes has to make documents with text. sigh...

So, to do the creae pdf thing in Acrobat, where is it exactly? And I imagine I can't do this in Acrobat reader, right? Sorry, I rarely go outside of Illy. Baby steps.
Thank you in advance!! I really appreciate all your feedback and expertise!

[urstwile]

First off, create your separate page files in Illustrator.

Then, with at least as far as I know, Acrobat Standard or Professional (CS1 or CS2 version), launch Acrobat, go up under File>Create PDF>From Multiple Files. This will take you to a browser type of situation, where you can select your files.

You can order them as you like, or use the thumbnails within Acrobat once you've imported everything until you get the order that you like.

Hope that helps. :)

[kellyportfolio]

dangit, I must not have Acrobat...just the acrobat reader. and I tried to download the 30 day trial of Acrobat Pro, but it's only for Windows.

thank you anyway though! :)

[urstwile]

No page layout software of any kind?

[reuber1]

Do you have Acrobat Distiller?

[kellyportfolio]

nope, not even that.

[urstwile]

What are your software resources? Do you have a budget that would allow you to throw down for some stuff?