$@%*$!&%* Goddamn fooking indesign (help please URGENT)

[D-Frag]

Oh boy, what a ****ing mess. I have a 95+ page magazine im working on. I had set up style sheets using these settings.

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7074/problem13oz.jpg

Now as you can see, I set up my styles as Arial 9pt, but for some stupid ****ing reason beyond my knowledge, ID decides that Aldiline, Courier and Times New Roman should default. Everything has been working good up until this morning. Im at a loss as to what is going on. All of our articles are pre-typed in Word as Arial, with Times as the spacing inbetween each paragraph. Shit is all twacked on this system, and im wondering if ANYONE AT ALL, can help me at this point.

The mag is about ready to go to print, but as its looking right now im completly screwed until I can figure out my font issues.

Please, for godsakes, someone tell me some good news.

p.s. **** ADOBE AND THERE GODDAMN CHARGING TECH SUPPORT! GRRRR

[rickself]

Have you actually NAMED a new paragraph style...something of YOUR naming, not picked up from the word doc? Like "Frags Style" instead of "Basic Paragraph"?

[Broacher]

>>as you can see, I set up my styles as Arial 9pt<<

?? I can't see. All I see is that you (or someone else?) has modified the default [No Paragraph Style] tag to Arial, but that doesn't give me any details about why the little '+' over-ride style sign beside that style is on.

Am I to understand that you formatted body using this tag, throughout?

One thing to examine for overrides that seem baffling is the Nested style attribute for any Character styles that may have been applied as part of a style. Or even locally. Were any Character styles created?

[D-Frag]

Rick - yes ive named a new paragraph style, right underneath the basic paragraph style is my named style which in this case is "Body Copy"

Broacher - im not completly understanding what you are saying. The + symbol, im not sure what that does, or what it means. And no character styles were created, and that nesting thing confuses the shit outta me.

I have the ID CS bible here, is there anything I can reference in that?

thanks for your help thus far

[rickself]

That + sign, I believe, shows that you have applied the style but there is another style that is over riding YOUR style. Select the paragraph, go to the fly-out menu (or the style name itself) in the Para Style palette and select apply and override (or something like that). You may have to hold the option key down when you select the fly out.

Sorry, I can't get to an open file right now. But you have to override that + sign.

[D-Frag]

Rick- okay, I hit clear overrides on my paragraph style, all it did was make all my type go to pink, and no font appear in the character menu.

Besides all of that, I just realized that when importing my documents from Word, it is putting new styles in my paragraph and character style sheet...like so.

Before - paragraph style
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9674/problem29rk.jpg

Before - character style
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7158/problem36qa.jpg

And this is what my character style does after I import text from Word:
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/5829/problem48jh.jpg

Now i dont know what that little "floppy save disk" icon means, but im pretty sure thats whats ****ing me up.

I have to leave for a funeral, ill be back in a couple hours, hopefully someone has some more info for me.

thx again

[Broacher]

The floppy just indicates that the Paragraph Style was imported into the ID document along with the text. It's an optional thing to do. I prefer to NOT import Word styles. Just hold Shft down when you click on 'Open' in the place dbox and you'll see a switch there for this. As soon as you make ANY change to an imported style, the disk will disappear.

By default, pink indicates type that has substituted fonts, glyphs, or custom/tracking applied-- or it could also apply to hyphenation/justification violations-- it's all in ID's Preferences/Composition settings.

On the bottom of the Paragraph palette, there's a reset icon (paragraph symbol with a plus sign beside it). Click on that with your cursor in a paragraph(s) and both character and paragraph level overrides get cleared. Ctrl (cmnd) click on this to clear only character overrides only, and Ctrl(Cmnd)Shift click to clear only paragraph overrides.

And take a deep breath and spend some time with the manual.

[idaho]

It sounds like your getting a bunch of crap paragraph styles from Word (Look in the index under "Piece-of-shit word processor"). Try opening the text in another word processor like Notepad. You'll loose all formatting that way and you may have to reset some paragraphs but at least all of the shit Microshaft leaves in the text will be gone. If you have a Mac handy try using Star Office or Simple Text; they may leave your formatting alone.

It may mean a little more work but it's better than losing your sanity trying to get it to work in ID.

[D-Frag]

thx Bro, im pretty sure i got it now, even though im importing text and I turned off the import styles function in the preferences, its still bringing in the character styles.

for now ill just have to delete that style every time I import anything until I figure out what to do about this text issue.

[The_Black_Knight]

thx Bro, im pretty sure i got it now, even though im importing text and I turned off the import styles function in the preferences, its still bringing in the character styles.

for now ill just have to delete that style every time I import anything until I figure out what to do about this text issue.If changing the preferences didn't help, try checking the "Show Import Options" checkbox when you place the text, then checking the "Remove Styles and Options..." box in the resulting dialog. It's worth a shot.