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Drorain
07-27-2006, 09:02 PM
Not sure if people saw on the news, Yates was found not guilty for the murder of her 5 children. I'm going to let that sink in a moment.

...waiting...

This was in a retrial, she will now be placed in the care of a mental institution until doctors deem her able to be let back out into society.

> During the murder one of the children ran away, she ran him down and brought him back to drown him.
> Beloved ex-husband, father of the children, is happy for the basic aquittal of yates.

...Drorain is severely pissed off at this.

Drorain
07-27-2006, 09:03 PM
Let me add...not guilty for reason of insanity

rickself
07-27-2006, 09:16 PM
Yep, Dro, without getting too deep...
between, Yates, little Destiny, and Jessica Lunsford, the little 9 year old girl in Florida, something is really really wrong here. The jury in the trial of the pervert in Florida (when they can get a jury of uninformed people) will not hear his confession to police that he raped her and buried her alive in a plastic bag, because he asked for an attorney and the detectives kept badgering him.

We're losing our children!

Navian
07-27-2006, 09:31 PM
I hate that... The whole pleading insanity BS.

You know what you are doing.. Insane or not.. They plead insanity because they dont want to be tried for there crimes.

Example, in the Elizabeth Smart case the guy who is on trial, sits in court and yells. He is not insane, he is trying to extend his time without being tried, but he is pleading insanity..

Insanity my ass. You do a crime, you still should be tried for the criminal act, and suffer the same concequences that those who are not insane have to face.

If insanity, then everyone in prison/jail is insaine, they where completely out of there minds when they did what they did.

Sorry, this just irritates me. She knew what she was doing, she is not insaine, stupid yes, but insaine, no.

Another reason why stupid people should not breed.

Its time to clean the gene pool.

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reuber1
07-27-2006, 09:37 PM
Oy, I'm not getting too deep in this one, but I agree. Yates should have her ass in prison.

EC
07-27-2006, 09:38 PM
sad

Drorain
07-27-2006, 09:40 PM
thats all I ask, prison...there is no way this woman should ever be out of jail either

TheBluePanda
07-27-2006, 09:46 PM
I wouldnt mind drowning her.

cornfed
07-27-2006, 10:24 PM
I think if she ever gets out of the mental institution then someone will hunt her down and kill her. Of course she's insane, along with every other violent criminal. The Jessica Lunsford thing just kills me. I can't believe they won't allow that testimony. It has always confused me that we claim to seek justice but then there's a confession out there that isn't admissable. If it was admissable, then justice could easily be served.

rickself
07-27-2006, 10:36 PM
The judicial "system" cares more about the accused than the innocent victims.

Silence04
07-27-2006, 10:50 PM
what, you guys think our judicial system "isn't" f***ed up or something?

justice in the united states is weather or not the judge stepped in gum that day.

PrintDriver
07-27-2006, 10:51 PM
^remember that when you're an innocent accused^.

Not to put spin on these inhuman creatures but our judicial system is what it is to protect the innocent. If the rules aren't followed who's fault is that. And where will it lead?

As for pleading insanity, there should be a rule that going to the institution is for life. Especially for that kind of insanity.

EC
07-27-2006, 11:06 PM
^remember that when you're an innocent accused^.

Not to put spin on these inhuman creatures but our judicial system is what it is to protect the innocent. If the rules aren't followed who's fault is that. And where will it lead?

As for pleading insanity, there should be a rule that going to the institution is for life. Especially for that kind of insanity.

Agreed. The lucky thing about it is that the level of monstertood a person must possess to do this type of thing is relatively rare.

"Where will it lead?" ... Abu Graib?

reuber1
07-27-2006, 11:09 PM
"Where will it lead?" ... Abu Graib?That's why I wanted to stay out of this too deep, because I agree with that reason very much. Sure, we take care of a few bad apples, as heinous as their crimes are, but what will it lead to?

cornfed
07-27-2006, 11:15 PM
The judicial "system" cares more about the accused than the innocent victims.

Agreed.

When I was in high school I was horribly pursued by a substitute teacher. Nobody would believe me until he tried to break into my bedroom window. We called the cops, they arrested him, blah, blah, blah. We didn't even go to court cause the DA said there was a lack of evidence. My God, we caught him hanging halfway out of my bedroom window, what more do you want?! He lost his rights to substitute teach. That was it!

urstwile
07-27-2006, 11:28 PM
^remember that when you're an innocent accused^.

Not to put spin on these inhuman creatures but our judicial system is what it is to protect the innocent. If the rules aren't followed who's fault is that. And where will it lead?

As for pleading insanity, there should be a rule that going to the institution is for life. Especially for that kind of insanity.

The problem is, the media attention that focuses on the innocent accused being let go is next to nothing. It's these types of cases that get the attention, and that of course leads everyone to think that justice is always misserved.

I believe that the U.S. has one of the largest, if not THE largest inmate population, even when compared to a lot of other countries with stricter laws than our own. Can't remember where I read that, but I remember reading it somewhere.

Samakimoto Graphics
07-28-2006, 08:40 AM
Well, here's my 10 cents:

The penalties and the way the system works is to punish, not to correct, and hopefully serve as an example to others thinking of committing similar crimes. Unfortunately this very system has to look at both sides of the story...some "experts" must've assessed this guy and made their conclusions (or colusions)- these are the loop holes...

PrintDriver
07-28-2006, 11:22 AM
Cornfed, on the completely opposite side of the coin, a lot of my friends are teachers and they all personally know at least one other teacher who's career has been ruined by being falsely accused of indecent acts by a student out for vengence. In most cases the charges were obviously false but there are a few that even though proven innocent, they still can't get back into teaching because no one will hire them. There is always that touch of doubt. And it's a damn shame.

cornfed
07-28-2006, 12:50 PM
You know PrintDriver, I agree. However, something has to be done to prevent these crimes. No, Sak, he wasn't put through and evaluation and all that crap - he was slapped on the wrist and sent on his way. This was almost 20 years ago. I don't necessarily think he should have even gone to prison, I don't know. He didn't really do anything to me except prank call me and try to break into my bedroom and try to cop a feel at school. I didn't really find it traumatizing, but a bit harrassing.

I understand the predicaments teachers are in. My mother-in-law is a teacher. She walks a fine line. However, in this case, the guy was caught red handed. I mean c'mon! They should have at least scared the piss out of him and gotten him some counseling or something. A slap on the wrist for trying to break into a girls bedroom is not acceptable and that's why these crimes go on to escalate into Jessica Lunsford cases. Who knows what would have happened had he succeeded in his plan. Who knows where he is today! But I do understand the flip side of the coin.

PrintDriver
07-28-2006, 02:09 PM
If I caught a guy going in through my daughter's bedroom window he'd have nothin left below the waist.

Red Kittie Kat
07-28-2006, 06:06 PM
^^^ Exactly