Working when not sober?

[budafist]

I must say, creatively, some of my best work is when I have been less than sober.

When is it ok to let my employers know this? And can they supply me?

Technically though, it's a shambles. So maybe, I do all the technical stuff in the morning, after lunch is the creative less sober period.

What say you?

(We starting drinking early at my work at every Friday) I'm sitting at my mac with a beer beside me :)

[undressedmonster]

When you say 'technically though, it's a shambles," do you mean that when you're putting your design into the computer that you don't set the file up efficiently? Because if that's the case I'd just say drink away when you're in the brainstorm/sketching phase, and go sober when you know you have to be working on the computer.

I'm confused if your employers are or aren't aware that you're drinking at work. I'm not sure what the code of 'work rules' is in New Zealand or where you work, but I'd be in deep doodoo even if they saw me smoking a cigarette on their property. (Public school district ::sigh::)

[captain spanky]

there was a thing a while back (I'll see if i can find a link to it) where an artist took LSD and tried to draw pics at hourly intervals... some of the best work was when he was fully high... intoxication is a real tool to help progression and is mightily underestimated IMO! :D

here we go... check THESE out!!
http://www.cowboybooks.com.au/html/acidtrip1.html

[budafist]

Our bosses pay for all our alcohol at work. I think the drinking culture is different in New Zealand. While not all business start drinking at 3.30pm on a Friday afternoon, my company does! Ah...I love my work. They stock the fridge on Friday mornings for the purpose of socialising/team building on Friday afternoons.

I think our regulars now know what Friday afternoon deadlines are to be laughed at...They often come over to visit on Fridays though. Drinking is a great way to end the week. Especially after a stressful one!

I used to paint a lot while high. Best stuff came from there. I don't paint anymore...I also don't get high anymore...Maybe that's why?

[captain spanky]

if i move to NZ could you find me a job in your company? ;) :D :D

[Danger_Mouse]

I will go to work one day, work all day on this design and not quite be happy with it.

I go home, I roll one up and after a bit come up with a greater idea in ten minutes. Now I am not saying I need the first to get to the second as I have come up with good ideas without puffin' one down. But it does feed the creative juices in my brain.

I'm at my creative peaks in the early morning till about 2pm. Or if painting and sketching I just click on and off. Can paint for 4 days solid ( i mean all day and into late nights), then not again for a month.

I use to work for a music magazine and every thurs and friday the boss would walk in with a 2-4 of beers and after 3pm it was fair game. We would hang at the office (it was a fun office) until about 8 and then attend a Record Release Party of (insert bandname here) and get in free with no lineup (due to our media passes). We would schmooze with other people in the industry and get wasted on company money.
Sounds good huh? It was until I showed up for work one day (about 8months later) and boss told me he couldn't pay me anymore (short version). Dream job go bye bye.

[morea]

there was a thing a while back (I'll see if i can find a link to it) where an artist took LSD and tried to draw pics at hourly intervals... some of the best work was when he was fully high... intoxication is a real tool to help progression and is mightily underestimated IMO! :D

here we go... check THESE out!!
http://www.cowboybooks.com.au/html/acidtrip1.html


Quote: study - "Upon completing the drawing the patient starts laughing, then becomes startled by something on the floor."

LMAO

[budafist]

Danger Mouse that sounds like it was a sweet job. Maybe it would have been sweeter if the boss had handled the management side just a little better and maybe he would have been able to afford to keep you on.

Captain, we have heaps of work for you if you would like to be a bindery bitch?

[budafist]

It's a bit of a shame that LSD one wasn't in colour, but I guess that's a bit of a cliche isn't it?

I liked the one in tempura the best.

[Pete33]

I used to have a similar beer culture on Friday afternoons, when I worked in the City of London. We wouldn't store our beer in the fridge, however. We used a building downstairs called a Pub. We would go to that building at 1.00pm and the special staff that we kept there would open our beer and serve it to us in special glasss. Then we would go back to the office when we were finished - any time between 2.30 and 5.00pm - and pretend to work very hard for whatever remained of the day. Needless to say, we were very creative (although not very productive).

Aaah, those were the days. Now I work in an office for one, chained to a computer for my sins...

[Logo-Mechanix]

I think the culture on this is different in the U.S. due to liability issues. Say I go to work am supplied with alcohol by my employer and have a few, maybe a few more and drive home. On the way I get into an accident, my employer could be held liable and get the snot sued out of him. Now I'm not saying we never have a drink at work, there is the annual Christmas party and the occassional lunch but if I came back from lunch on a regular basis wreaking of alcohol I would not be employed long. As for what I do on my own time, that's my business but honestly it looks great when you are loaded but when you sober it's like what the hell was I thinking. As fot LSD (and I was pretty wild when I was younger) I don't know how you could accomplish anything on that stuff.

[Pete33]

I have to admit I was talking about a few years ago. Before all this Nanny State over-protectionism stuff came in. I don't know what the pub culture is like in the City these days.

[Danger_Mouse]

I don't know how you could accomplish anything on that stuff.

I know I can't do it anymore. I can't stand a hangover at work.

One good thing about the music mag. I worked for. Had a company Van that our secretary drove for us....and she didn't drink. Free cab home. Record release parties were part of the many perks

[captain spanky]

I think the culture on this is different in the U.S. due to liability issues. Say I go to work am supplied with alcohol by my employer and have a few, maybe a few more and drive home. On the way I get into an accident, my employer could be held liable and get the snot sued out of him.

and that's what pisses me off about the state of the world today...
it would have been YOUR CHOICE to drink it so how is the boss responsible? accepting that s/he is responsible is also accepting that you have no self control and cannot make sensible decicions. Utter madness.

I'm not kicking at you dude... just the system.

[jimking]

It's called who's got the deeper pockets. It's about money and putting lawyers to work. After all it seems being a lawyer is a prerequisite to being a politician who then pull the strings for legistlation that allows lawfirms to hit paydirt.

[Logo-Mechanix]

Nothing personal taken there captain, and Jim you are exactly right. I have to be honest though regardless of lawsuits if I owned a company with employees I would not want them drinking on the job. I mean the occassional party or luncheon, but think about it, how productive are you when youre boosing it up? My guess is not very, I know I'm not. Besides, getting looped when you have to drive, bad idea, and not just because of the DWI you are sure to get eventually but how would you feel if you plowed into a family and killed them?

[jimking]

You should not drink and drive that's a given but I've worked at plants that insisted that we work 24 hours straight many times and in one case a employee drove home on his motorcycle after a 24 stint and wrecked and broke his legs. Who's fault is that? Is it the employer's fault or the employee? Well, it was his fault in the end.

[Logo-Mechanix]

That's like these doctors who intern and are forced to work shifts where they are working for like 2 days straight or something. I saw a story awhile back where one had an accident or something and now they are trying to stop the hospitals from requiring this. I once worked at a place where we were forced to work like 12 - 14 hour days and I remember driving home was a little scary sometimes. Now in NJ if you drive when you are tired and something happens you are held liable but I don't know the specifics about if it's work related.

[jimking]

Believe this or not but about a year ago our county police were required to go into bars and arrest people who they think are under the influence. Charged with being intoxicated in public. They would watch you and count the amount of drinks you've had (in 1 case 3 beers) and arrest you. They were in plain clothes. Several of these people even had designated drivers and proved it in court. And several others after being arrest passed the drunk test. Even some who lived nearby and walked to the bar. All had to get lawyers which I'm sure cost at least $1000.00.

[Logo-Mechanix]

Unfreakin'believable. I tend to wonder if the person who ordered them to do this had a lawyer in the family who was looking to boost business. I think I read about that when it happened Jim.

[rickself]

Believe this or not but about a year ago our county police were required to go into bars and arrest people who they think are under the influence. Charged with being intoxicated in public. They would watch you and count the amount of drinks you've had (in 1 case 3 beers) and arrest you. They were in plain clothes. Several of these people even had designated drivers and proved it in court. And several others after being arrest passed the drunk test. Even some who lived nearby and walked to the bar. All had to get lawyers which I'm sure cost at least $1000.00.
Dat's uncronstittude-ububble. I only had 2 beeeeers, hofffficir!

[Pete33]

...I only had 2 beeeeers, hofffficir!

You clearly need more practise. Have another beer... :p

[Red Kittie Kat]

I rarely drink at all anymore...... the old bod can't handle it ;)

[Logo-Mechanix]

Geez, I only drink when I'm awake.

[Red Kittie Kat]

lmao Logo!!! :D

[Logo-Mechanix]

I am actually not a real big drinker, I stomped my share of brain cells when I was younger (with more than just booze). But I like to relax with a cold beer and watch the ball game or hang out on the patio with a couple of cold ones on occassion. I rarely drink hard liquor though, usually only at weddings and that's to lesson the embarasment of mine and my wife's wacky families.