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The_Black_Knight
09-05-2006, 10:30 PM
Let's go back to the days before computers and laser printers, and digital printing.

In fact, let's go back to before film, press type, rubylith, and stat cameras.

Heck, let's even go back before the big Linotype-Hell compositors.

I present to you the state of the art in graphic design equipment for the 17th and 18th centuries:

http://studentpages.scad.edu/%7Ecweath20/mystic_press/press_1.jpg

This is a hand-operated press in the historic print shop at Mystic Seaport in Mystic, Connecticut, which I visited this weekend.

It was common for there to be print shops in seaports. These shops would print up contracts between shipping companies, employment contracts, classified ads, shipping manifests, and various other materials used in the shipping industry.

To create your printed piece, you started with a line compositor, which was just a piece of metal that you held in your hand. With your other hand, you would grab letters from a case that contained the font you happened to be working with at the time. Capital letters were in the top case, and the smaller letters were in the bottom case. This is where we get the terms upper case and lower case.

http://studentpages.scad.edu/%7Ecweath20/mystic_press/upper_lower.jpg

You would create a few lines of type (moving from right to left, so that you weren't spelling "backwards"), then place them in the layout, and repeat the procedure until you were done. All of your centering had to be done using pieces of metal, and each letter had to be individually placed, the result of which you can see below.

http://studentpages.scad.edu/%7Ecweath20/mystic_press/type_1.jpg

Line spacing was controlled using thin pieces of metal, which is of course where we get the term leading.

Once your layout was finished, you placed the slabs of wood (called furniture) around it, and tightened up the contents with a key in the holes you see above so that it all stayed together. Then you would ink the plate up, put it in the press with some paper, and pull the big lever.

It was slow, but at least it was true WYSIWYG, and there was very little down time for technical troubleshooting.

Later, some of the bigger print shops moved on to steam presses, but the lever-operated presses were common in offices and small print shops for centuries.

http://studentpages.scad.edu/%7Ecweath20/mystic_press/press_2.jpg

I just thought y'all would find this peek into the history of our industry interesting. I felt it was one of the hightlights of my trip to Mystic Seaport. I think I could see myself doing the job with this equipment and enjoying it at least as much as I do with computers. There's a great immediate gratification and hands-one quality to the work that I think would make it enjoyable for me.

PrintDriver
09-05-2006, 10:34 PM
and don't forget to mind your p's and q's... LOL!

Exodus
09-05-2006, 10:34 PM
There is a press like that I got to see at a history museum in Marietta, Ga. :)

Exodus
09-05-2006, 10:34 PM
Lol, Pd!

Ned
09-05-2006, 10:40 PM
Yes, those p's and q's could get awful confusing!

The_Black_Knight
09-05-2006, 10:44 PM
and don't forget to mind your p's and q's... LOL!Yes, the operators of the press mentioned that the expression came from the old press days!

jimking
09-05-2006, 10:47 PM
Believe it or not I worked for a printer called Georgetown Atlas Printing in Washington that did the same thing. Set type by hand. Had the old windmill presses.
Man I'm old. ;)

Mynock
09-05-2006, 10:52 PM
and I thought it was bad when I worked a a company a few years ago who was on os9 still.

jimking
09-05-2006, 11:11 PM
and I thought it was bad when I worked a a company a few years ago who was on os9 still.
I was 17 years old and it was a summer job. The roof of the building was slanted. It was modified that way back in the 1950s so that the platemakers can hang the offset plates outside so the sun can expose them. :eek:

The_Black_Knight
09-05-2006, 11:11 PM
Believe it or not I worked for a printer called Georgetown Atlas Printing in Washington that did the same thing. Set type by hand. Had the old windmill presses.
Man I'm old. ;)Didn't you work on some kind of almanac or other?

budafist
09-05-2006, 11:15 PM
We have something similar for doing all or diecutting and perforatings :D

EC
09-05-2006, 11:27 PM
and don't forget to mind your p's and q's... LOL!

Reminds me of something I read -- that the term "out of sorts" comes from the olden days of printing when the printer would run out of ... well, er. sorts! lol

Kool
09-05-2006, 11:31 PM
I especially enjoyed the ancient can of Varn presswash. They've kept their branding pretty consistant through the centuries. ;)

urstwile
09-06-2006, 02:54 AM
Those pics are awesome, BK. I love how you broke it all down for those who may be totally unfamiliar with the history of early typesetting and composition. Very cool history lesson. :)

angerisagift
09-06-2006, 03:03 AM
very cool. i live right near there i'll have to go check it out...i of course knew about the seaport but wasnt aware of this particular part...thanks for the cool little lesson!
i think that type of stuff is really cool...hands on things really catch my interest
-sean

Red Kittie Kat
09-06-2006, 03:04 AM
Thanks for those pic BK ...... I love seeing old stuff like that .... but then again I love museums and that particular era.

:)

cjoe
09-06-2006, 03:12 AM
and of course thats where we get the terms quad right and quad left, because of the em-quads that you put in the fill the lines.

Logo-Mechanix
09-06-2006, 11:59 AM
Believe it or not I worked for a printer called Georgetown Atlas Printing in Washington that did the same thing. Set type by hand. Had the old windmill presses.
Man I'm old. ;)

I beleive it, since I also worked in a print shop right out of high, I ran an offset 2 color press but they used something very similar to this to run certain things on. Since I was friends with the guy who ran the contraption I asked many questions and he was all too happy to give me lessons. Probobly in a veiled attempt to force someone else into the position. I was truly facinated by the way it worked though. And BK I have also been to Mystic Seaport and loved touring all the old ships, definitely a great time.

The_Black_Knight
09-06-2006, 12:10 PM
I especially enjoyed the ancient can of Varn presswash. They've kept their branding pretty consistant through the centuries. ;)And the can has been perfectly preserved for total authenticity! :D

The_Black_Knight
09-06-2006, 12:13 PM
Those pics are awesome, BK. I love how you broke it all down for those who may be totally unfamiliar with the history of early typesetting and composition. Very cool history lesson. :)Thanks, urst. I didn't know they had a press at Mystic Seaport until I walked inside the shop, and then I instantly recognized what I was seeing. I knew the folks here would think it was interesting, so I got some information from the operators and took some snapshots.

Samakimoto Graphics
09-06-2006, 01:17 PM
We had a chest of those lower case and upper case thingy's. And a semi-ancient press (not as ancient as yours here). And I got to do some interesting offset printing combined with modern illustration back in college.

The hard part was not so much in selecting the letters (though that was difficult) it was getting the right size flat lead blocks to place on either side to get the centering right. It was horror!

Nice share BK.

TheBluePanda
09-06-2006, 01:31 PM
The interface was pretty sweet back then!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/thebluepanda/old_interface.jpg

Broacher
09-06-2006, 01:32 PM
If any of you are ever visiting my area (Niagara regioin, Ontario), you'll likely want to stop by here for a visit: http://www.mackenzieprintery.ca/

The fellow who runs this place is a work associate. It's pretty cool.

The_Black_Knight
09-06-2006, 01:42 PM
The interface was pretty sweet back then!

:D

Vikia
09-06-2006, 02:31 PM
Those were wonderful photos! Thanks for sharing them.

PrintDriver
09-06-2006, 04:50 PM
Broacher, cool link. The style of their show posters is a favorite of mine.