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Element_13
09-26-2006, 11:25 PM
These are some prototypes for a client who is a master piper (insert joke here). Let me know what you think. Thanks.
http://element13.ca/clients/passionforpiping.com/passionforpiping_logos.jpg
JLockwood
09-26-2006, 11:59 PM
the first one is ok, i don't like the idea of the plaid and the border line's change when it's goes from green to plaid and that kinda throws everything off. the second one is very simple and very direct, i like the second one the best!!! the 3rd one i dont care for too much, i think the guy playing expresses the "passion for piping" better than just the bagpipes. and the font doesn't complement it much.
i'd stick with the 2nd one.
Danger_Mouse
09-27-2006, 12:21 AM
I like the first one. Can be a crest and made into a patch.
Suggested other possibilities....
Accent it with plaid on the banners and remove the plaid from the circle?
Put Passion on top half
For Piping on bottom.
Maybe some red in the plaid?
I like it.
JLockwood
09-27-2006, 12:23 AM
the first one is ok, i don't like the idea of the plaid and the border line's change when it's goes from green to plaid and that kinda throws everything off. the second one is very simple and very direct, i like the second one the best!!! the 3rd one i dont care for too much, i think the guy playing expresses the "passion for piping" better than just the bagpipes. and the font doesn't complement it much.
i'd stick with the 2nd one.
Why did I type this with such bad grammar????
frankster
09-27-2006, 12:28 AM
Why did I type this with such bad grammar????
Ah sod it, just have a disclaimer as your sig like I do ;)
I like the piper silhouette.
typesoup
09-27-2006, 12:33 AM
Is that his tartan? If it is, then I'd vote for the first one. If not, then the second one. I agree that the pipes, while you did a great job with all illustrations, isn't as strong conceptually as the silhouette, and the font with the 2nd one works better as well.
JLockwood
09-27-2006, 12:34 AM
Ah sod it, just have a disclaimer as your sig like I do ;)
I like the piper silhouette.
haha frankster, that's a clever idea.
i have nothing constructive to say as press day has sucked all intelligence out of my brain. but i just had to share that the illustration on the 3rd made me think of some weird dead animal. and as these things tend to happen when stream of consciousness is involved, i was also reminded of a joke: http://www.goofball.com/jokes/bar/20050514101
CamarotaDesign
09-27-2006, 02:24 AM
I like the Plaid in the logo. Of course its a symbol of scottish clanship, and that emits heritage. But I dont think I like the circle emcompassing the piper. MAybe like lockwood and dangermouse suggested, that using a crest would look good? maybe even a splaid scarf wrapped around the logo?
I think while the others look nice aestetically, they really do not work for such a traditional subject. You might be able to incorporate some scottish hills (highlands), or the outline of an old scottish ruin behind them to make them fit better, but they are definately looking to contemporary. The sans serif doesnt really fit.
Unless..... This logo is for a new style of bagpiping that incorporates modern music with bagpiping, then they would function better.
I think the main thing element for me is that I just need to see more traditionalism along with a bagpipe. The name suggests too much to be incorpated with modern design style.
DesignerScott
09-27-2006, 05:04 AM
Maybe I'm just more agreeable when I drink, but I really dig the first one. It just looks like the "Passion for Piping" might need to be rotated a little bit more counterclockwise... But hey, it's not like I'm seeing exactly straight right now.
Seriously though, it looks good.
Samakimoto Graphics
09-27-2006, 06:12 AM
Definately the first with some of the adjustments suggested by DM.
I agree that the plaid need to be "played" down a little...
i like the first one too, I totally agree with DM on the suggested changes. As for changing to a crest - If that is his tartan have you thought of looking up his actual crest? Maybe you can take inspiration from that to replace the circle with a more heraldic image, unless that is you are going for the modern look.
capezio
09-27-2006, 08:04 AM
I prefer the concept of the lone piper in the second one. I can see a 'passionate piper' standing in a misty Scottish glen I think subtle is the key
When I first saw the first one without reading anything my immediate reaction was 'why have a plaid lifebelt'. For me its too in your face I don't connect the passion for piping at all, but that is just me and my feelings.
Don't like the third
mac.FINN
09-27-2006, 01:42 PM
I see piping, but I don't see anything that says passion at all.
It just looks like some guy, playing the bagpipes, rather uninterestingly at that.
I like the idea of incorporating the tartan, but maybe not in the logo - perhaps as part of an identity as a whole, just not in the logo.
The first one has really too much going on. I'd go with the second one of these by far. However, I'd also try to come up with something with a little more passion.
Thorn_9
09-27-2006, 02:43 PM
I would reccomend using the first one with some changes.
First i wouldnt use a tartan, perhaps a generic plaid but not a specific families tartan, the scottish hold grudges and you dont wanna turn someone off by displaying a rival clan, lol.
Then the circle on the scottish crests are belts, use that idea, but breathe life into it, perhaps foreshorten it. Then the type in traditional crests is blocked sans, so play up that historical connection.
It has great potential, good job!
printmonger
09-28-2006, 01:48 PM
Thorn, so if you wouldn't use the family tartan, you would you use a generic plaid? I disagree with that. The tartan is just as strong an identifier as the persons name and clan and is usually tied very close to family and land. I don't know if you need to use the tartan in the logo, but I'm pretty sure the client is already using it. Do you know what is his/her clan/sept is?
I do, however, agree with MacFinn, that all three kinda lack passion.
mac.FINN
09-28-2006, 02:01 PM
Okay, I still agree with my previous statement :D but I need to add some comments since the first one seems to be getting a lot of attention.
You've done a really great job on the silouhette in the second one - the type is a little blah, but the illustration is solid.
The first one....the first one. I suppose it really depends on your target audience, but to me a 20 something guy with Irish roots- the first logo is way too much.
You probably wouldn't want to make it much smaller than it is currenty, which is quite large. There's a drop shadow on the ribbons - that's a no no. There's way too many colours. It reminds me of my 70 year old scout master. The type is weak, and why is the silouhette in black while the rest of it is green?
IF you feel you want to go in this direction it needs a lot of refinement.
(I still like #2 :D)
As for Thorn's comment to not use the family tartan because of grudges, who cares. Unless they're the most hated family in Scotland they'll be fine. So maybe one person doesn't use this particular Piper... oh no - the business is ruined.
The Tartan is a very cultural and proud way to connect to the history and heritage of piping, and implies a proud family connection. Using a generic plaid would cheapen the image of the company, when a real authentic image exists.
Broacher
09-28-2006, 02:20 PM
Sorry. Nothing under that kilt for me.
Where, pray tell, is the passion? The 'skree'? This looks more like cold oatmeal.
The Scotts are paradoxically a very conservative, and simultaneously extremely passionate. Where is that?
I think it depends on what you want to use the logo for - No. 1 would work well for instrument case stickers, fabric patches etc, whereas No. 2 I see more on stationary, website pages etc. Dont know if this helps at all!
For the record too I am born and bred in scotland, lived here all my life, and I've never come across any clan grudges! Scotland has its problems like anywhere else but they are more related to a small minority relating religion to football teams so I would say as long as you stear clear of celtic/rangers style badges you're totally fine. There are tartans that anyone is entitled to wear - not generic as such - I forget exactly what their names are but a quick google search would tell you. The tartan type really isn't a big issue, most people have the 'right' to wear three or four different ones through complex family connections but no-one is offended in any way by not sticking to this.
the_punisher
09-30-2006, 09:21 AM
Love the second one
moniekoro
10-02-2006, 01:50 PM
I think the second is very obviously the strongest, nicely done. I'm not sure however about the font. I like it alot but it seems kind of modern whereas bagpipes are more traditional. You might want to play around with some more celtic or olde looking typefaces. If that dosen't work I really like what you have already. nice job!
typesoup
10-02-2006, 04:09 PM
Here's some feedback from a non-designer point of view. My dad's been a world-class piper for many decades, diehard traditionalist, won't even use those "newfangled bags" that aren't made of tough old hide and don't give you a hernia when you fill them (I swear it's like a rite of passage or something).
Pipers are most often in motion, and this logo has movement in it. The font is very clean and pleasing to the eye, a nice contrast to the ornateness of chanter fingering. It's also modern and traditional at the same time, and a nice change from what's been overdone, and what's expected. "Keeping tradition is the piper's responsibility, not the logo's." Oh, and with regard to the piper's silhouette: "Absolutely right on it," and "Is he in regalia compliance?'"...
WARNING: CNSFW!
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