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braviv
09-29-2006, 04:52 PM
Hey guys.
I have made some changes for the cd cover (27 yo pop /dance israeli singer/songwriter who sings in english)
Please check out his cd cover (and please do not pay attention to the size)
and share your thoughts here.
does anybody has a better idea for the text.

Thanx.
b.r.

cornfed
09-29-2006, 06:25 PM
Are you the guy in the photo? I noticed Raviv in both names. C'mon, fess up, are you a musician trying to do your own cover?

Virgo Nightingale
09-29-2006, 06:35 PM
I can see that the text it blurred - I don't have a problem with that - but is it my imagination or is the image also blurred around the text? I think I would like it better if the image beneath the text remained sharp. If it's supposed to be 'glowing' a little, I might bring that out more. I'm also not sure if this really says much about the music - by itself, I would guess pop, but the image is a little too relaxed to make me think it's dance-y (I think I made that word up). Otherwise, it's a great start!

Ned
09-29-2006, 07:42 PM
The blur on the Raviv looks good (being larger text), but the two lines of smaller text above and below should remain sharp.

PS, I listened to your music on MySpace, and it sounds good!

genecotton
09-29-2006, 09:33 PM
I did a quick mockup for style. You should stay away from centering, and use the photo itself to create drama. You will see how I used the white area to make the text really POP.

Buda
09-30-2006, 06:13 AM
Good advice so far. Nice redesign Gene.

My impression: the photo gives me the sleazy yuckies and the pink text make me think gay. I'm not homophobic, but is this the target market you were going for?

Oh yeah, I forgot, heaps of straight guys are into pink now...metrosexual right?

Ned
09-30-2006, 07:23 AM
Yes, Gene's redesign looks much better. It takes the photograph's composition to mind much better in the text placement.

braviv
09-30-2006, 09:10 AM
I like what you did Gene!
It does look better.
I think I would prefer "RAVIV" over "raviv" though.
No color to the text?
Thanx,
Raviv





I did a quick mockup for style. You should stay away from centering, and use the photo itself to create drama. You will see how I used the white area to make the text really POP.

Buda
09-30-2006, 10:40 AM
Hey look! Gene's redesign is on myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/httpwww1myspacecomreloccfmc2idca80960c

Had a look at your myspace site. I think the photo of you wearing a black hoodie is much more interesting than the photo you have used. The pose is unique and the fact that you aren't squinting at me is more attractive. Use that photo for your promo pic - not the porno topless shot.

Buda
09-30-2006, 10:44 AM
....just had a thought...Are you using this as a CD cover or just a myspace avatar?

Because CD covers need to be high res and generally have a 2 spines a back and something on the inside front cover. Sometimes even something on the inside back cover....not to mention the cd design itself...

braviv
09-30-2006, 10:56 AM
As I said before, this is for a cd cover and I am I need to pick up the best one until tomorrow.
The reason I posted gene idea on myspace is becasue i wanted to get people's reaction before i'll make up my mind.
I also like better the other photo i posted on myspace, but if you think from a 16 YO state of mind - you might change your mind, like it did.

cnic
09-30-2006, 01:14 PM
Hey Raviv.

I took a quick listen to your music on myspace. Sounds like you have a very electronic club mix style.... with that in mind.... i have to tell you that I dont get that at all from your cd cover.

Here is my point then... If I am shopping for music in the club/mix section, and I come across an artist that I have never heard of, but his cd cover looks like it belongs in the R&B section, I probably wont buy.

However, If I come across a cd cover that looks/reflects the type of music on the cd, then I am more likely to believe it as club/dance/trance/mix whatever. Also, let the cd cover reflect the music.... people who purchase the cd should get a glimpse of who you are by the music itself... not just by a picture on the cover.

To me (this is my opinion), the cd cover looks like a cross between a country and an R&B cd. Nothing about this cover reflects the type of music within. If I bought this cd simply by what I thought it was on the outside, I would be completely suprised when I put the disc in the player.

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braviv
09-30-2006, 01:26 PM
ok. got you.
this is the debut single. you got to remember that.
how do you suggest i should do then?
what element should i add to this photo to bring it closer to the music, as you mentioned ?
any idea?
thanks,
raviv


Hey Raviv.

I took a quick listen to your music on myspace. Sounds like you have a very electronic club mix style.... with that in mind.... i have to tell you that I dont get that at all from your cd cover.

Here is my point then... If I am shopping for music in the club/mix section, and I come across an artist that I have never heard of, but his cd cover looks like it belongs in the R&B section, I probably wont buy.

However, If I come across a cd cover that looks/reflects the type of music on the cd, then I am more likely to believe it as club/dance/trance/mix whatever. Also, let the cd cover reflect the music.... people who purchase the cd should get a glimpse of who you are by the music itself... not just by a picture on the cover.

To me (this is my opinion), the cd cover looks like a cross between a country and an R&B cd. Nothing about this cover reflects the type of music within. If I bought this cd simply by what I thought it was on the outside, I would be completely suprised when I put the disc in the player.

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Kool
09-30-2006, 01:45 PM
Raviv, did you record the music on this CD yourself or have it professionally recorded?

braviv
09-30-2006, 02:01 PM
I am the signer and songwriter on these songs and also composed "Into My Life", whice is the upcoming debut single.
The music was recorded in different studios.
Do you like what you hear?
Raviv;)

Kool
09-30-2006, 02:46 PM
I am the signer and songwriter on these songs and also composed "Into My Life", whice is the upcoming debut single.
The music was recorded in different studios.
Do you like what you hear?
Raviv;)

Actually I didn't listen to it, not my thing sorry. :)

My point is that you had it professionally recorded to get a professional sound. Apply the same principal to your cover design and hire a professional designer. You really have no idea what you are doing, which is ok, you're a singer songwriter not a designer. You have virtually no chance of creating a usable image by yourself, give our profession a little respect and get a pro to do this for you. You may believe you are saving money by doing it yourself but in the long run you really won't. http://home.comcast.net/~rnick9/koolsmiley.gif

Ned
09-30-2006, 08:40 PM
Thank you, Kool. :)

I will agree with cnic that the CD cover doesn't speak your kind of music, Raviv, but as Kool said, a contracted professional designer would be better able to do a complete redesign with your style in mind.

We can only provide so much input on a public forum, as our creative concepts are our bread and butter. We come on the forum to socialize, and give helpful input to others, but not to work. :) Which is why we can advise you on changes, or let you know if you're on the completely wrong track, but it's unfair to ask us to give you fresh creative ideas, unless we're paid for it.

Buda
09-30-2006, 08:46 PM
Perhaps a good idea is to use a designer that has done work for other artists in your genre before. Have a look at other people that have a similar sound to you. Do their covers look like yours. Have a look at your own CD collection. Anything similar?

Being unique is not a bad thing, but you need to know why no one else has taken this path before.

Ned
09-30-2006, 09:36 PM
In music, it's particularily important that your cover speaks to your musical genre. Globally, there is no such thing as 'bad' music, as long as it's done well, but individuals have very narrow views on what is good and what is bad, to their own tastes. Almost everyone who picks up your CD thinking it's something else, gives you another bad review...

genecotton
09-30-2006, 09:54 PM
OK Here's the digital version...

Buda
09-30-2006, 09:58 PM
I think the digital version you just did Gene would look better with the hoodie photo...I'm just not a fan of this photograph ESPECIALLY for this kind of music.

Ned
09-30-2006, 09:59 PM
Heh... Cool beans, Gene!

Ned
09-30-2006, 10:00 PM
I think the digital version you just did Gene would look better with the hoodie photo...I'm just not a fan of this photograph ESPECIALLY for this kind of music.

Are you sure looking at a half-naked man doesn't just make you insecure in your masculinity? :D

urstwile
09-30-2006, 10:20 PM
Buda might be a little insecure in her masculinity, Ned, but I'm not, and I don't really care for the photo either. :D

Ned
09-30-2006, 10:36 PM
Well, I'm very insecure, and I happen to think he's cute!

Oh, wait... That didn't come out right. Okay, I'm gonna shut my trap now.

Buda
09-30-2006, 10:51 PM
OK, so Ned might buy this CD based on this photo. Braviv, you got a buyer!

Ned
09-30-2006, 10:55 PM
Another one for my wall... :D