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Rickster
10-11-2006, 12:56 PM
Hey creative people! ;)
I'm started with making a logo for my freelance compagny, it's called 'Hollands Glorie', it's a typical old traditional Dutch name.. the problem with the name is , when I make it with a classic or modern font it will be traditional again. And that's not what I want.. So I choose to make the logo in a totaly new style with my own caracter in it (little chaotic:))
But I'm still not happy with it. So please, what's your opinion??
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9144/hghw1.jpg
muffin
10-11-2006, 01:15 PM
i think it's nice if you're going for a funky chaotic look, but in my opinion, the glow doesn't work.
try adding a solid background or stroke, which closely hugs the text, but is still "messy looking". i.e. the stroke is not an identical width all around, and is sharp, not smooth.
i can't quite explain what i mean. hopefully you get it.
will probably have to draw it with the pen tool.
Rickster
10-11-2006, 01:33 PM
yeah, that's a good idee, to do a little more funk in it, you found the right concept for it that I couldn't find ;) Thnx!. But this is just a sketch, what I'm trying to do is make the logo of several fonts. But that's difficult :)
The small orange line around it is a stroke.
Pen tool is nice, I'm working now with a wacom
cornfed
10-11-2006, 01:36 PM
I liked it when I first saw it. Then I went and saw your other work and don't think this is representing your abilities adequately. Your work is really nice. I think you could push this a little further, although I think it's headed in a good direction!
I agree the current glow is too much, maybe make it very light...just a hint of glow. I like the chaotic feel...the only thing throwing my eye is the "LO" in Glorie as it appears to be in a different style than the rest of the logo. Otherwise, I think the logo is a solid start.
Rickster
10-11-2006, 02:18 PM
I've uploaded the image to small, but orange line isn't a glow (I hate glows;)) It's a small orange line, I did it to contact the log with the orange circle
Rickster
10-11-2006, 06:47 PM
I've tried to make a newer version, still not happy yet.. Maybe is it a to difficult concept.. Anybody an idea to make it better?
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7965/logoaj3.jpg
peder
10-11-2006, 08:07 PM
That last black one is coolest in my opinion. :)
The last one. Really good. It kinda reminds me of the Sex Pistols.
Is that a good thing for you?
Wait, I don't think I like the 'N'. It stands out for some reason. Maybe too straight.
Cheers.
sarahjoga
10-12-2006, 04:39 AM
I really dug the scripty font thing you had going... it needs to be pushed. But the orange circle that said "design" looked more like an after-thought and didn't really match the rest of the more "graffiti-script" style... It was too geometric.
You'll get it... whenever I get stuck... I get out the ole' pen and paper. good luck
urstwile
10-12-2006, 07:01 AM
I like the third one, the black one. For some reason the other ones make me think of Disney.
budafist
10-12-2006, 07:11 AM
First one is cool,
Second one makes me think of toothpaste,
Third one has promise, but something about it is dated. Not really dated, just a bit 90's dated. Is there a pop culture magazine that has a similar look? Probably redesigned now, but it reminds me of one...can't put my finger on the name of it.
I like the traditional sounding name and what you are trying to do with it. When I think of this name though I think of Old English script. That can look very modern too these days if done properly.
Samakimoto Graphics
10-12-2006, 07:12 AM
# 3 but...
- You have too many variations of font thicknesses
- There are also too many variations of fonts; you can still get the "chaotic feel" with one font.
- this logo does not communicate designer to me.
Q. are you sure you want to communicate "chaotic" as a designer?
nclester02
10-12-2006, 04:24 PM
number 2 is real sick. although i must agree on the orange sphere with design written in there. make it transparent... do something with it, i think it takes away from the design. and i love the underline/choice of colors there. it's awsome.
nate
Rickster
10-30-2006, 10:46 PM
Hey there I'm back with a new logo.. After a lot of changes of styles and concepts I finaly found something I like.
The name: Hollands Glorie is changed in 'Bekend'.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5291/bekendconceptvb7.jpg
Love the back of the card...very cool.
ianiorio
10-31-2006, 02:00 AM
the card could be good however use the theme you have establised: the card's shape is a rounded rectangle with one pointy corner. that shape is used as the background for the bekend logo. use this same shape on the 2 rectangles at the bottom of your card, right now they have 2 curved corners and 2 pointy ones. solidify your theme and make it yours. when i think bekend, i want to think "rounded rectangles with ONE 90 degree corner"
budafist
10-31-2006, 02:15 AM
Yes, your illustration is hot hot hot!
Sorry, no helpful crit :D
Rickster
10-31-2006, 02:41 PM
the card could be good however use the theme you have establised: the card's shape is a rounded rectangle with one pointy corner. that shape is used as the background for the bekend logo. use this same shape on the 2 rectangles at the bottom of your card, right now they have 2 curved corners and 2 pointy ones. solidify your theme and make it yours. when i think bekend, i want to think "rounded rectangles with ONE 90 degree corner"
Thnx for the critiques! I gonna make a few more!
reuber1
10-31-2006, 03:00 PM
Dude, I'm loving your new card designs. Agreed on the single 90* corner though.
1ooScreamingTrees
10-31-2006, 04:54 PM
Nice illustration.
However - this is a fairly generic mark. Obviously you've gone with a simple form to identify your business. When you do this - there has to be a reasoning that is apparent or at the very least - underlying.
The form does not communicate anything about your business does it? Then why is it there? It simply "adds" a generic forgetable quality to your communication.
Don't retrace your steps to justify your design choices - the design needs to be an evolution of your research process.
Why are you designing business cards when you are trying to transition logos as well? You're spreading yourself thin. Concentrate on the logo - and get that absolutely perfect before you even think about introducing additional elements.
Rickster
10-31-2006, 06:32 PM
Nice illustration.
However - this is a fairly generic mark. Obviously you've gone with a simple form to identify your business. When you do this - there has to be a reasoning that is apparent or at the very least - underlying.
The form does not communicate anything about your business does it? Then why is it there? It simply "adds" a generic forgetable quality to your communication.
Don't retrace your steps to justify your design choices - the design needs to be an evolution of your research process.
Why are you designing business cards when you are trying to transition logos as well? You're spreading yourself thin. Concentrate on the logo - and get that absolutely perfect before you even think about introducing additional elements.
Thnx for your reaction, I think that now is the time to explain the logo and shape.. I didn't cause I it's difficult for me to write English ;)
The dark gray shape is like a comic-talk-cloud(?). But this is a abstract cloud. It's ment to be like someone is talking albout Bekend. Bekend is in English, like a lot of people know who you are.
The businesscard is something I always make when a logo is almost ready to check if the card match with it (sometimes it never match :S)
Cheers
nclester02
10-31-2006, 07:12 PM
Ok, i've been using illy and photoshop for a few months now and reading a whole lot. I'm trying to polish skills and get the fundamentals of both programs down solid so I can have a great workflow. Anyway, I can't seem to make those wispy, white curves like you or anyone else for that matter. How is it done, i'm assuming in illy. I'm assuming the pen tool and some time. Any tuts on this simple subject or now?
Oh yeah BTW... I think your work is off the chain and I love your style. No critiques except maybe, match up the 90's and curves of the card with the designs on the card. If that makes any sense.
Please, how do you do what you did on the back? Those beautiful white ?
nate
Samakimoto Graphics
11-01-2006, 10:19 AM
Wow!
I like this last design. That illo and shapes totally rock!
I agree with the comments on the shapes too.
Well done.