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wownepali
11-06-2006, 03:16 PM
ok, may be this is the wrong place to ask. But i really need to know this. visit www.mattepainting.org (http://www.mattepainting.org) and click gallery section . Is that the photoshop work or 3d? well, may be both, but how to distinguish which is 3d and which is photoshop?
And yes one more thing how to create that foggy kinda effect and those glows and film like colors?

Jackimalyn
11-06-2006, 03:41 PM
Im pretty positive these are hand drawn

patkennedy78
11-06-2006, 03:51 PM
Hand Drawn, no way, that'd be discustingly great. I think they're a mix of photos, photoshop, 3D rendering, and maybe some hand drawn elements.

I'm not sure though, I'm glad to see that stuff though. I'll file it under inspiration.

Danger_Mouse
11-06-2006, 03:57 PM
go into the forums...most of them state what software they are using.

PrintDriver
11-06-2006, 04:54 PM
There used to be a time when yes stuff this good WAS handpainted. Sometimes to scale for backgrounds in films. Now it's all CGI. I was told by the pro movie model builders when I was in college not to even bother going into the field anymore. CGI was just starting but they saw where it was going even back in the early 80's.

Dig up a copy of this book in your bookstore and check it out.
http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Art-Legends-Movie-Painting/dp/081184515X/sr=1-1/qid=1162835598/ref=sr_1_1/103-0241358-4064653?ie=UTF8&s=books

seamas
11-06-2006, 07:44 PM
There used to be a time when yes stuff this good WAS handpainted. Sometimes to scale for backgrounds in films. Now it's all CGI. I was told by the pro movie model builders when I was in college not to even bother going into the field anymore. CGI was just starting but they saw where it was going even back in the early 80's.

Dig up a copy of this book in your bookstore and check it out.
http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Art-Legends-Movie-Painting/dp/081184515X/sr=1-1/qid=1162835598/ref=sr_1_1/103-0241358-4064653?ie=UTF8&s=books


Yes, I was gonna say hand painted at first glance myself.

There are a ton of old films where all the landscapes and cityscapes were done by scenic painters.

Usually a crew of people all working on the same piece.
There is still a good number of jonbs requiring scienic matte painters - for both film and stage.

I took a couple of the Union exams for this about 10 years ago.

200 or more painters in a warehouse being required to copy the same painting (plus other instructions), scaling it up to exact dimensions in the span of 4-5 hours.
Pretty interesting sight.

Drazan
11-06-2006, 10:48 PM
heh, I still "hand paint" but generally I use these stick thingies with hair at the end of them to dip and mix paint on to the canvas.

;)

Jade

digitalprince
11-06-2006, 11:09 PM
Some seem to be hand paint,
but the majority are 3d rendering + photoshop retouching

frankster
11-06-2006, 11:09 PM
lovely eye candy. Thanks for that link! I liked the one with all the famous buildings in a city scape, and this one...


http://www.mattepainting.org/index.php?categoryid=12&p17_sectionid=17&p17_imageid=660

reminded me of a view of snowdon from a village near my parents house...

http://www.algieri-images.co.uk/i/snowdon1.jpg

made me quite homesick. sigh.

prewe
11-07-2006, 05:56 AM
ooh, i've done matte painting in motion graphics. it's pretty neat. but i prefer keying out a blue/greenscreen instead ;P
and for the record.. rotoscoping blows.

Drawing a Blank
11-07-2006, 12:48 PM
Some seem to be hand paint,
but the majority are 3d rendering + photoshop retouching

There is an ongoing debate about the name and if it should still be called matte painting or not, but that is a matter of opinion I believe and not really relevant to your question. The book that PD linked to is a good history of matte painting if you are interested in that. You could also try to find a book about ILM (Industrial Light and Magic if you didn't already know) that covers the first years of the Star Wars special effects. I can't remember the name, but I spent hours reading it when I was younger. I remember there being a section on matte painting done by hand on glass.

Digital matte painters use several different programs to achieve their goals. Some of those images (from your link) are photo manipulation and/or painting in a program like photoshop or Corel paint. Some are probably 3D renderings and some may be good old paint; it all depends on the artist and final use of the piece. This magazine caters to this type of artist. http://www.2dartistmag.com/
If you want to learn more you might want to try looking here http://forums.cgsociety.org/ they have a digital matte painting section among many others.

Annie Social
11-07-2006, 01:06 PM
Do a Google search on the name "Albert Whitlock". He was the absolute master of hand-painted mattes from the 1930s all the way into the 1990s.