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capezio
12-01-2006, 11:42 AM
What happens when a pantone metalic gold is printed to its CMYK process values?
I have a piece of work and the client does not want to pay for full colour plus one spot (the metalic gold).
PrintDriver
12-01-2006, 11:50 AM
Metallic gold is metallic because it has metal flecks in the ink. Without the spot ink you don't get a metallic. The CMYK conversion looks like baby poo. You'd be better off finding a good yellow to compliment the design.
panzer
12-01-2006, 01:27 PM
to get that type of gold the same as metalic inks is imposible
well i would say so,
there are ways to give a gold effect using Photshop etc but it isnt the same
Ick! Yeah metalic golds look really nasty when CMYK'd. Definitely change it to a more goldlike process mix.
capezio
12-01-2006, 02:43 PM
Thanks for that.... its what I thought. Baby poo is a good comparison PD
CamarotaDesign
12-01-2006, 05:48 PM
Capezio, my printer had a blog that talked about a suitable conversion for pantone gold. It works very well for type and small amounts, not so good if you need to go larger than a square inch or so. Unfortunately the blog is down right now so I can't give you the link, but I emailed them for you and will post you the color build once they respond.
CamarotaDesign
12-01-2006, 06:40 PM
here it is
jimking
12-01-2006, 07:38 PM
Cyan is the key in the build.
budafist
12-01-2006, 10:37 PM
Cyan is key in baby poo.
capezio
12-01-2006, 10:49 PM
Thanks very much for the trouble you took on my behalf TC Much appreciated.
CamarotaDesign
12-02-2006, 04:30 AM
your welcome, Like jim and buda said, cyan is the key. I'd say what I gave you is a pretty good simulation of the standard gold, less cyan would give you a brighter gold, more would be more a faded brass color.
budafist
12-02-2006, 08:10 AM
If you want to use a metallic but want to keep prices down, see if you can do the job as 3 or 4 spots colours?
I find many 4 colour jobs (that aren't full photography) can be set up in fewer colours with some minor adjustments.
capezio
12-02-2006, 11:04 AM
Buda, I would have done as you suggested but I'm using a 4 colour image/photo. I have used a christmassy red for the type and I just wanted to relieve it a bit. I will suggest the alternative to the gold though to my client. I'd be really interested to see the finished result.