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vcellom
12-23-2006, 12:20 AM
Hello all, and thanks in advance for your help.
I 've been designing for the web and print for a couple of years, but always when it comes to submitting the final projects I get confused..
is there any recommended books that explains:
-Whiteflood
-Coated/uncoated print
-Colors, 4/4, 4/1 ??
-silk screen printing VS ..???
-best way to submit artwork for print.

I use Adobe cs2

Thanks,
Vcellom

morea
12-23-2006, 12:22 AM
check out www.prepressure.com

lots of good info there.

vcellom
12-23-2006, 03:13 AM
Thanks, Morea.
I really like this website. is there any other place that shows another variety of books and resources , more detailed books

rickself
12-23-2006, 03:31 PM
Welcome, vcellom. I think your biggest asset is right at your fingertips. Books can't be updated fast enough to keep up with the printing industry of today. Granted, your questions concern some age old terms, but just do a google search, maybe check out wikipedia. You may strike out on a couple things, but keep going down the hits and you should find yourself buried in info.
It's good that you're asking. I see too many print jobs that come from web designers who think that crossing from web to print is seamless. It really IS a whole different set of rules. Good Luck!

PrintDriver
12-23-2006, 06:13 PM
A good bet too, before you start designing, is to call the print vendor you will be using. Ask what photo resolutions/color space they want and discuss the job you are about to produce to see if there are any special sep or set-up requirements.

emel
12-28-2006, 08:06 PM
Hello all, and thanks in advance for your help.
I 've been designing for the web and print for a couple of years, but always when it comes to submitting the final projects I get confused..
is there any recommended books that explains:
-Whiteflood
-Coated/uncoated print
-Colors, 4/4, 4/1 ??
-silk screen printing VS ..???
-best way to submit artwork for print.

I use Adobe cs2

Thanks,
Vcellom

have i the book for you. it's so awesome. defines every conceivable type of printing, including binding. Full glossary included. It's essential. IMHO
'handbook for the graphic arts' by navapress milano (http://www.unicahome.com/p29154/nava-milano/handbook-for-the-graphic-arts-by-navapress-milano.html)
and
Real World Print Production (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321410181/103-6511025-5520610) by Claudia McCue

WPS23
12-28-2006, 09:23 PM
-Whiteflood - Never heard of it.

-Coated/uncoated print - simply describes whether the paper (or other medium) is coated or not. ANY print ready file can be printed on any medium, but the result will look different. Coated should be more vibrant than uncoated but nothing in print will ever be as vibrant as your monitor, which uses light (not ink) to display color.

-Colors, 4/4, 4/1 - Number of different colors (not screens of the same color, which is how you can make some nice pieces with only 1 color) on one side/number of colors on side 2 if it's a 2-sided piece.

-silk screen printing VS - I've no knowledge of silk screen printing. I'm aware of it, and certainly not saying it's obscure. I just don't know much about it myself.

-best way to submit artwork for print. - Check with your print provider. I work at a print shop and there are a number of instances where over the phone I'll realize that it'll take longer to explain what we need to the designer so I'll just tell them to give me what they have and I'll make it print ready on our end.


I hope I've helped while not stepping on anyone elses toes. I'm at work right now and don't have time to do much more than post my own questions and get back to work but I noticed this thread as something I could possible quickly help out on.

emel
12-28-2006, 10:24 PM
-Whiteflood - Never heard of it.whiteflood is used in CD/DVD printing. Whiteflood is simply slang for a full "flood" of white ink so you don't see the shiny disc surface; you would then print whatever inks on top of that (e.g. CMYK with white flood is a 5 color job; or PMS with white flood; etc).

-silk screen printing VS - I've no knowledge of silk screen printing. I'm aware of it, and certainly not saying it's obscure. I just don't know much about it myself.Silkscreen most commonly is used with CD/DVD printing or t-shirts, though there are lots of other applications for silkscreening.

Colors, 4/4, 4/1 - Number of different colors (not screens of the same color, which is how you can make some nice pieces with only 1 color) on one side/number of colors on side 2 if it's a 2-sided piece.

It’s helpful to note each number represents a single color printed from a single plate or screen (depending on the printing process) - there generally should never be multiple plates representing the same color.
A double sided page in most high quality newsstand magazines are printed as CMYK and would be “4 over 4” (or 4/4). A double sided page with CMYK plus blue PMS 281 would “5 over 5” etc...

upekkharich
01-04-2007, 08:32 PM
screenprinting (silk has not been used in decades) is different from offset printing but follows many of the same concepts

usually screenprinters will halftone at about 85 lpi vs 150-175 lpi for offset because the size of the dots need to be much bigger so that the negative areas of the image will stay adhered to the screen, and screenprinting ink is much thicker than offset ink