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Red Kittie Kat
10-08-2007, 07:53 PM
hehe I could never watch anything when my Mother was around .. I would have to listen to a running commentary. :D

budafist
10-08-2007, 07:54 PM
Decided to look nice and wear a tie to work today. No special reason at all. If 1 more person comes up to me and asks me what the occasion is, or if I have a job interview elsewhere I am going to shoot someone *loads gun*...

Can't a guy just take pride in his appearance and look nice?? :D


You like nice, but if that's the first time I'd ever seen you take pride in your appearance, I'd be sus too.

Typically
10-08-2007, 08:06 PM
People who talk during a movie, or any TV show for that matter.

ugh my roommate does this on the regular. i'll be watching tv and he comes in from smoking a cig and he just starts talking. i just don't say anything or look at him but it still doesn't always work.

BJMRGTIVR6
10-08-2007, 08:16 PM
Well, the company I work for and another "Well Known" company are working together on a project. They will not give us their corporate font and we need to print several pieces and must insert a code onto each one. So, we designed the lieces, sent it to them and they inserted their font and created outlines on all areas. So, instead of using Arial (they don't mind that as it was used in teh brochure) where the Small Code goes, they used their font and outlined it. The first piece wasn't too bad as I could delete their font for the code and insert a "Coupon code" font we normally use but when I got to the postcard, the Code is in two places and they sent us the postcard (again outlined) and they left hyphenated words, off line breaks and the phrase "coupon code" was split and a webpage was split, rather than how we set the type in the begining.
And we need to have these printed by the weeks end but will need approval yet again on anything we change....

just give us the darn font. we wont go giving it away to everyone.

budafist
10-08-2007, 08:32 PM
ugh my roommate does this on the regular. i'll be watching tv and he comes in from smoking a cig and he just starts talking. i just don't say anything or look at him but it still doesn't always work.

My flatmate does this too. But she talks about the program we're watching like: "Oh my god! Look at her hair!!!!" when it's obvious that everyone in the room is looking at the hair on the the lady on tv.

CkretAjint
10-08-2007, 08:58 PM
You like nice, but if that's the first time I'd ever seen you take pride in your appearance, I'd be sus too.

Nope it's not. I do it about once a week. I'll wear a casual jacket, a hat, or a tie... SOmething to spice it up! :) That's what really irks me!!! haha

budafist
10-08-2007, 09:19 PM
Oh, then as you were :)

meccajos
10-08-2007, 10:19 PM
ugh my roommate does this on the regular. i'll be watching tv and he comes in from smoking a cig and he just starts talking. i just don't say anything or look at him but it still doesn't always work.

My husband is the worst for this. At least I can tell him to be quiet (have said worse). When you're in a movie theatre it is just so hard not to tell off that person who has decided to sit behind you (in an almost vacant theatre) and give a play-by-play of the scenes. Grrrr.

Riya
10-09-2007, 01:24 AM
When you're in a movie theatre it is just so hard not to tell off that person who has decided to sit behind you (in an almost vacant theatre) and give a play-by-play of the scenes. Grrrr.

Why don't you do it then? I do. :D

budafist
10-09-2007, 02:32 AM
My workmate has taken an hour (so far) to redraw a logo. It's only 2 words in a sans serif font and a nike like swoosh at the end like a bracket. Tedious. It's so painful to watch someone work so slowly during the Christmas rush. I think he really struggles with the pen tool. I think it would take me 15 minutes max to do it. What can you do?

Typically
10-09-2007, 01:02 PM
email him a tutorial on the pen tool =]

reuber1
10-09-2007, 01:40 PM
BARF. The Cowboys winning that game last night. I think I despise them more than any of the opposing teams to Chicago in the NFC North. Here's to the Patriots stomping them next week.

CkretAjint
10-09-2007, 01:40 PM
Getting an ad to leave the door NOW since it is already a day late and it not having Specs (bleed, trim, colors) contact person, who to send it too...

I mean how do you design an add without specs??!?! Then you have the nerve to hand it off to production to be sent out! Grrrrrr that really boils my pot of water.

colonel5
10-10-2007, 07:21 PM
BARF. The Cowboys winning that game last night. I think I despise them more than any of the opposing teams to Chicago in the NFC North. Here's to the Patriots stomping them next week.

I don't really care who wins the Cowboys/Patriots game Sunday as long as it's a very high scoring game.

Cowboys and Patriots make up the majority of my fantasy football team.

I have Tony Romo, Marion Barber, Wes Welker, Patrick Crayton, Ben Watson and the NE defense.

Mynock
10-10-2007, 08:08 PM
People claiming my discarded clones as their own.

Red Kittie Kat
10-10-2007, 08:09 PM
there there Mynock http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/RedKittieKat/smilies/a042.gif

budafist
10-10-2007, 10:58 PM
I gave St Inky a gel wrist pad for your mouse hand ages ago that I had spare - I don't find them comfortable so it was no use to me.

At the time he seemed to be grateful and said it was really great but it disappeared the next day. I don't care, use it if you want, don't use it if you don't want. But if you don't want it, pass it on to someone else.

So today, another staff member comes around with a wrist support for the keyboard. St Inky snatched this one up too. So I'm like, what happened to the wrist support I gave you a while ago? He looks around his desk...It's under his desk.

So now, maybe to save face or I dunno, he's got both keyboard and mouse wrist support thingies in operation on his desk. :rolleyes:

It's like he wants to take a piece everything even if he doesn't want to use it. This normally wouldn't bother me, but lately, anything this guy does bothers me.

Typically
10-13-2007, 03:54 PM
why when you call tech support to change something as simple as an email address does it take over an hour! i've been on the phone a flipping hour trying to change an email address on my xbox account. the people that are answering the phone don't know what the hell you are saying and just type crap into the computer and read what comes up. i could do that myself online that's why i'm pancaking calling you! ugh and this is my second attempt at this. the first one i was discounted after being on the phone for 58 minutes. i figured i had time to kill before my haircut now i might be running late for it all because of these idiots!!!!

meccajos
10-13-2007, 04:07 PM
Ok, here's one: Why is it that when you dial a number that is no longer in service, or a caller does not accept calls from an unlisted number, does it ring 4+ times before the stupid recording tell you this? Grrrr.

reuber1
10-14-2007, 07:56 PM
Chicago Bears football. :rolleyes:

Gotta hand it to your Vikes mynock, Adrian Peterson is pretty damn good.

fredrich
10-14-2007, 10:49 PM
why when you call tech support to change something as simple as an email address does it take over an hour! i've been on the phone a flipping hour trying to change an email address on my xbox account. the people that are answering the phone don't know what the hell you are saying and just type crap into the computer and read what comes up. i could do that myself online that's why i'm pancaking calling you! ugh and this is my second attempt at this. the first one i was discounted after being on the phone for 58 minutes. i figured i had time to kill before my haircut now i might be running late for it all because of these idiots!!!!

I used about 30 minutes to terminate my old Xbox Live subscription. The woman in the other end kept asking me why I wanted to end the subscription. What the funk do you care? To make things worse, she was Swedish, so I had a hard time understanding all of the things she was saying over a crappy telephone line.

budafist
10-14-2007, 10:58 PM
Well, they don't care, they just have to fill in that window with some text. You could have been creative with it.

I once went to close my student bank account and I explained why at the start - I wasn't a student any more when they got to that question, they still asked again. You can't ever say that you are going with another bank though because they will give you incentives to stay. Although the incentives can be a good way to make money.

Every time my flatmate goes to close his bank account, they offer him $50 to stay. I reckon he should just go and try his bank account as often as possible until they realise how much money they have spent on him! He can open another account at another bank if he likes, they won't know.

budafist
10-15-2007, 03:47 AM
It's happened 4 times today and I'm not happy.

Clients claiming that proofs have been signed off days ago to me - yet I have no record of their emails. I don't delete emails. Either they are sending them to other people in the department thinking the email will eventually get to me, or my emails are disappearing to somewhere else, or all these clients didn't give the ok.

It makes me look totally incompetent when clients call me or someone else here asking when they can pick up a printed job and I tell them it's still on proof.

I really hope these are just freak coincidences today and there will be no more of this nonsense tomorrow.

Jackimalyn
10-16-2007, 05:33 PM
doesnt so much jerk my chain, but what is it with the dmv and bringing out the crazies? There was a man who asked me how much a replacement ID card is, I told him $6, to which he replied, "oh sheeiit. can i borrow $6?"
There was a family of four, who sat in different corners of the waiting area but kept a conversation going. A pissed off man that he couldn't get his California ID renewed in Wisconsin (and keep it CA)

I'm pretty sure I was sitting next to the real-life version of Tweek, spikey messed up hair and clothes dissheveled suckin down the tallest coffee ive ever seen. He asked if he could switch numbers with me so he could have a smoke before his number was called.

doesnt matter now, Im back at work, but what the heck?

Virgo Nightingale
10-16-2007, 05:39 PM
It's not that the DMV brings out the crazies, it just brings out everyone. Sometimes it's just surprising to realize just how many people in this country (or any other for that matter) are just plain weird.

GraphixNPrint
10-16-2007, 06:08 PM
I was sitting next to the real-life version of Tweek, spikey messed up hair and clothes dissheveled suckin down the tallest coffee ive ever seen. He asked if he could switch numbers with me so he could have a smoke before his number was called.

Damn what a small world! Glad I had the chance to meet you in real life Jacki! :eek: :p

Jackimalyn
10-16-2007, 07:56 PM
...tweek?

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/jackimalyn/tweek.jpg

GraphixNPrint
10-16-2007, 08:03 PM
...tweek?

hehe ... just trying to re-jerk your chain! :eek: :p

morea
10-18-2007, 03:43 PM
Ugh. It just took me over half an hour to pay my damned car insurance online. It's mind boggling that customer service can be SO bad.

I tried to log in to my account online, and the system wouldn't accept my user name and password.

Assuming that I had changed my password without making a note of it (though this is unlikely, as I am usually right on top of those things) I filled out their password retrieval form online and submitted it. I got an error page telling me that I had not completed all of the required fields.

I went back and filled out the entire form again, with the same results. "Great," I thought. "They are having problems with their website." So I called the toll free number listed on the website for customer assistance. (I will only call ANY customer service number as a last resort.)

I was prompted to enter my policy number - which I did. Then I was transferred to a recording of an error message. There were no further instructions, so I hung up.

I called back. I tried to bypass the error message by hitting "#" to indicate that I didn't have my account number. I was transferred to the same error message. I hung up... again.

I continued calling back SIX MORE TIMES using different options in an attempt to reach a human being. No dice.

Finally, on my EIGHTH call to customer service I just kept hitting zero (even though it was not a listed option on the menu) and DID reach a human being. She was able to sort the problem out in about 2 minutes.

Overall, it took me a little over half an hour to make one simple payment online. I was NOT a happy camper.

CkretAjint
10-18-2007, 03:49 PM
It's okay Morea, we've all been there.

One time I had a similar issue with my student loan. So I called up and didn't have my account number with me. So I just entered 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0.... apparently that is actually some guys, who isn't me, account number! How cool is that?!?!!!!!

morea
10-18-2007, 03:57 PM
http://i24.tinypic.com/28a48yo.gif <- crappy customer service

CkretAjint
10-18-2007, 03:58 PM
Hey the customer service was good, they solved your problem quickly. It was just the path to them that was a pain the arse!

Virgo Nightingale
10-18-2007, 03:58 PM
Mo, at least your car insurance accepts payments online. Mine used to, but for some reason doesn't anymore. I have to do it the old-fashioned way... by mail... :eek:

morea
10-18-2007, 04:01 PM
the CSR was good. The fact that the company made it so hard to actually GET to the CSR amounts to poorr customer service. :p

GraphixNPrint
10-18-2007, 07:15 PM
http://i24.tinypic.com/28a48yo.gif <- crappy customer service

hehe, Morea is being as violent as me! Yay! :o

morea
10-18-2007, 07:17 PM
some days... ;) :D

reuber1
10-19-2007, 03:34 AM
Speaking of customer service, day number one back at "the job" was AWESOME!

Wait, awesome doesn't mean awful. Nevermind.

urstwile
10-19-2007, 04:51 AM
I can usually get past the automated recording stuff by simply commencing to repeat the word "operator" every time they try to help me "troubleshoot" my problem. Yes, I've had the recording protest that she's merely asking me questions that the actual person would ask me as well. Nevertheless, I keep repeating operator. Usually four or five repetitions does the trick to get me connected to a person. That is, when hitting zero doesn't work. :)

MD
10-19-2007, 06:01 PM
Welcome back to the Soap Box Roobs!

On Tuesday I received a freelance job to design an 1/2 page ad that was going to be used in some local University guide or something. The email that they sent contained a brief summary of what they were looking for and a spec sheet from the printer regarding the ads. On the top in big bold letters - DEADLINE FOR ALL SUBMISSIONS OCTOBER 1ST.

Tuesday - Design the Ad per their specs and ideas.
Wednesday - Redesign the Ad to make it more interesting and exciting.
Thursday - Make final alterations to the ad.
Friday - Send over files when the cover for the job is already on the press.

reuber1
10-21-2007, 12:06 AM
So, after getting done w/ what I consider a rather successful tryout while holding my own with former college athletes looking for a semi-pro team to play on (before twisting my ankle on my last route...injury before the insult), I come home to a ****ing rejection letter from the local print shop, of all goddamn places; 3 years after college, portfolio pieces that outshine my peers by mountains, and I am STILL having ****ing trouble looking for work. This shit is getting really ****ing old, really ****ing fast.

urstwile
10-21-2007, 12:31 AM
Sorry to hear that Roobs. Did they give a reason as to why? :(

reuber1
10-21-2007, 12:33 AM
Sorry to hear that Roobs. Did they give a reason as to why? :(
No, so I'm going to call and find out. Not even a second interview, the first of which I thought went great.

GraphixNPrint
10-21-2007, 03:01 AM
sorry man ... something will start to turn in the right direction! Well, at least it seems to for everone else except me!

reuber1
10-23-2007, 03:55 AM
Arghghgh...Job searches that yield promising results, until you click on the Details button or whatever and you find out that it's from a recruiter/staffing-agency that requires you to sign up.

So I wind up going to the site to find out I have to create an account there, which turns into a ridiculous and time consuming process. Most require me to have to upload a Word doc or txt file resume; seriously...I mean, seriously. I'm going to save my illustrator resume as a jpg and start embedding it in word docs...middle finger to you too.

Then I'm forced to mess around with their own (and extremely shitty) job application process that almost always excludes our profession from their lists of careers, tries to read my simple text resume and populate the fields with the included info (and failing miserably...I did not work at this design firm for 'Production Artist' years, and my job title wasn't '2007'). Then, I specify my skills, or at least try to, as the skills I have are not listed (way to not list any of Adobe's software products, you colossal morons) so I have to pad it with lovely skills like 'Internet', 'Microsoft Office', or 'Seated Ulcer Development'. And when I'm finished with all of that, that specific recruiter site FINALLY let's me search their own database to re-find the job I searched for and found originally (as it conveniently 'forgot' what job I found), and lo and behold the job that I located on the other site that linked me to the recruiter is not found on the recruiters site. Way to get some sneaky advertising and a new account signed up, jerkass.

emmerse
10-23-2007, 04:09 PM
my boss designs logos in photoshop. using drop shadows. and rich black (PS default) instead of 100K.

grrr.

Virgo Nightingale
10-23-2007, 08:39 PM
This time of year jerks my chain. I hate the weeks leading up to election day. Politicians needing a million mailers yesterday? Got 'em. Frankensteining old pieces to create "new" ones? Been doing it for the last 2 weeks. Getting sent photos for a candidate when what I really need is copy (but turns out he was just hoping we'd magically pull copy out of our butts)? Happened today. Getting really horribly designed text-heavy pieces from area towns (in one of which the name of the town the candidates are running in doesn't appear any larger than in 12 pt. type; another so poorly written you can't help but wonder how he thinks he'll ever get elected to run more than a barber shop) to piggyback onto a county mailer you're designing? Been cuttin' and pastin' those in all day today. I want to go home and smoke a joint so bad.

budafist
10-23-2007, 08:55 PM
Gah!

A client came in wanting to go ahead with a job that our company had designed for her. She was speaking to my colleague about it since he had emailed the proofs to her but all he could give her were blank stares. I knew my colleague had done the job because I delegated it to him. My colleague denied any knowledge of the job. He only did it a few days ago, but couldn't remember at all.

I described the job to the client with my colleague in the room: A5 invoice with a red and black logo in the top left hand corner that was provided on a disk right? Yes, she said, that's the one. I told my colleague that he definitely did it a couple days ago.

He got all flustered and said he didn't remember doing it but that he would look into his files. A couple minutes later it's found.

It absolutely amazes me that he can't remember doing the job. I only handled the job for about 2 minutes while handing the file over to him yet I remembered it. How can this be fixed? What if I wasn't here at that moment. He would have sent the client home saying we couldn't print the job because we didn't design it.

Maybe he needs a fresh brain implant.

frankster
10-23-2007, 09:01 PM
Maybe he needs a fresh brain implant.

No Buda, he just needs to be fired. You should keep a list of all these occurances, because if you are there to remedy them all the time then your bosses will not realise how frequently he is causing problems. If they don't realise the extent of the problem then they will keep him employed.

Virgo Nightingale
10-23-2007, 09:02 PM
Maybe he needs to stop smoking so much pot. Oh, wait...

urstwile
10-23-2007, 09:07 PM
No Buda, he just needs to be fired.
Frankster FTW.

Typically
10-24-2007, 02:38 PM
there is a 4 way stop with a crossing guard because there is a school about a mile down the road. im about 50 yards away from the 4 way stop and slowing down as the crossing guard starts walking out into the road to cross some kids. as he is walking out the old coot is yelling at me to stop. i was going about 5 miles an hour and like 50 feet from the stop sign. i mean i understand he has a dangerous job but you don't need to yell at me at 7:30 in the morning for not stopping the second your haggard old ass walks into the street.

gluhen
10-24-2007, 03:13 PM
"Haggard" is a great word, Typically. One of my favorites.

I love when people rush to my cube to ask me to do a project because The Boss/Leader Person is "out sick". Especially when I don't even know that the The Boss/Leader Person is "out sick" in the first place. I manage to drag myself to the computer to type an "@ home on death bed, bbl" email when I'm sick HOURS before I need to be at work.

teniworks
10-24-2007, 05:35 PM
I'm loving the whole: But, we wanted it to say this "..." after you have looked at the ad and approved the text and it's already gone to press after 12,000 other changes made to the copy already!!! And then you look at me (the intern) like I'm insane after it's been printed.

budafist
10-25-2007, 03:26 AM
"Haggard" is a great word, Typically. One of my favorites.


I also like Huckery. My bf used Huckery to describe the latest batch of the first episode of this seaon's America's Next Top Model.

ArchVis
10-25-2007, 04:26 PM
"Defenestrate" and "keggle" are two of my favs. I was going to start my own political party, the "Defenestration Party," until my wife pointed out that I'd never be allowed to fly again.

I felt like a graphic designer today! I had asked my client to send me his logo in electronic format so I could put it in the construction docs I'm drafting. Woke up this morning to find a faxed photocopy of his business card waiting for me. In his defense, I guess it *was* electronic while it was en route to my fax...

mrktguy29
10-25-2007, 05:42 PM
[quote=Ryan8720]Oh yeah, I don't like vegetarians that constantly tell you shouldn't eat meat. If you are a vegetarian then I respect that. Just don't go around telling other people they should be one too.


--Amen

MD
10-25-2007, 05:44 PM
Oh yeah, I don't like vegetarians that constantly tell you shouldn't eat meat. If you are a vegetarian then I respect that. Just don't go around telling other people they should be one too.

I feel the same way about Republicans and Religious people.

Virgo Nightingale
10-25-2007, 09:51 PM
I feel the same way about Republicans and Religious people.
Same here. Except for me, that also applies to any talk of politics. And I'm in the middle of a shitload of republican political pieces. I love the weeks leading up to election day. :rolleyes:

budafist
10-25-2007, 10:17 PM
"Defenestrate" and "keggle" are two of my favs. I was going to start my own political party, the "Defenestration Party," until my wife pointed out that I'd never be allowed to fly again.

I felt like a graphic designer today! I had asked my client to send me his logo in electronic format so I could put it in the construction docs I'm drafting. Woke up this morning to find a faxed photocopy of his business card waiting for me. In his defense, I guess it *was* electronic while it was en route to my fax...

Haha! One of the reasons I'm happy to live without a fax. Welcome to the initiation process :)

budafist
10-25-2007, 10:19 PM
[quote=Ryan8720]Oh yeah, I don't like vegetarians that constantly tell you shouldn't eat meat. If you are a vegetarian then I respect that. Just don't go around telling other people they should be one too.


--Amen

I tell those vegetarians that I eat vegetarians. While looking at them and licking my chops :)

hewligan
10-25-2007, 11:21 PM
I tell those vegetarians that I eat vegetarians. While looking at them and licking my chops :)
Force feed 'em lard (http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/may2006/veggies_censorship.html) :D

budafist
10-25-2007, 11:58 PM
I've printed that article to read at the train station. I might even try to commit it to memory :)

AlexNJ210
10-26-2007, 06:30 AM
Force feed 'em lard (http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/may2006/veggies_censorship.html) :D

A F@%#ing men.

mrktguy29
10-26-2007, 04:37 PM
I felt like a graphic designer today! I had asked my client to send me his logo in electronic format so I could put it in the construction docs I'm drafting. Woke up this morning to find a faxed photocopy of his business card waiting for me. In his defense, I guess it *was* electronic while it was en route to my fax...

I totally understand. I work with 200+ Realtors and then staff on top of that, most of which have no earthly idea of the time, effort and know-how that goes into graphic work. And they wonder why I am at the office at such late hours and ALWAYS busy. I have had to recreate "faxed" logos before, not fun.

mrktguy29
10-26-2007, 04:40 PM
I feel the same way about Republicans and Religious people.

Since I stand at a more independant view on politics I ahve to say BOTH Republicans and Democrats. If only both parties would learn how to coexist on issues and quit pushing extremes, whichever direction chosen, the country, and quite possibly the world would be a much happier place.

mrktguy29
10-26-2007, 04:44 PM
I am sorry, but work on the Global Warming Movement is not in anyway a move for world peace. This movement has made him MILLIONS and he has no plan to change his ways on politicizing this policy. I belive in global warming but not man-made global warming. I belive in doing all one can to improve the environment by recycling, and cleaner renewable fuels, etc. But taking this issue and making it a political issue is just a joke.

Let the peace prize go to someone who has pushed for world peace.

fredrich
10-26-2007, 05:39 PM
Putting my hand out to signalize the bus to stop, after waiting in the cold getting leaves in my face for 20 minutes, just to see the bus driver pointing towards a bus stop several hundred meters down the road, driving past me. Damn how irritating, should have thrown a stone on the bus.

Tsmalldon
10-26-2007, 06:18 PM
When the Boss expects me to instantly learn to read write, translate and type in french from scribbled hand written notes, then doesnt understnad when I give him a tme estimate that takes into account 1 finger typing.

FRUSTERATING!

Jackimalyn
10-29-2007, 04:18 PM
Careless people. Here’s what I mean

Saturday night my building started on fire. Yea… everyone’s OK for the most part but we had to stand outside in 30 degree weather in our pajamas from 3am to 5am. A fireman was sent to the hospital for smoke inhalation because he took his mask off to resuscitate the woman who started the fire… because she fell asleep smoking. It just really ‘jerks my chain’ that her carelessness put her life, the fireman’s life and the other 500 people’s lives who live in my building at risk. Our doorman who was working at the time just started like a week ago, was doing rounds and pulled the alarm and called the fire department quite quickly, I wanna buy him a thank-you but I’m not sure what an appropriate gift is?

Anyway, I hope that woman’s evicted. Can they do that? Evict you for something like that? All my clothes smell like a BBQ now, too :(

Typically
10-29-2007, 04:23 PM
well you should give her the bill when you get your clothes cleaned. Get the guy a gift card to dunkin doughnuts or something if he drinks coffee which im sure a doorman working the night shift would =] something simple like that would be nice and useful

GraphixNPrint
10-29-2007, 04:25 PM
Jacki, legally they can't evict her for being careless... sorry.

For the clothes, the American Red Cross has something they will give you to use in the wash that removes the smoke odor. Years ago I lived in a 3 story house, 1 apartment downstairs and the top two floors was our apartment. Some idiot got upset with the lady that lives in the first floor apartment and threw a molatov coctail through a basement window.

Luckily I saw smoke start coming through the baseboards and got my family out but the place was a total loss. Some of the clothes we salvaged, and kids stuffed animals etc were soiled with smoke. The Red Cross gave us those packets and they worked wonders on most of the stuff.

BTW, glad to hear your OK!

WannaBrie
10-29-2007, 06:20 PM
Whoa, Jacki, scary, glad to hear you are alright. Great idea Typically, I think that's a great TY gift. Also, scary GNP, glad it turned out alright for u and your family...

WARNING: LONG STORY!
my brother accidentally set my parents house on fire last year in a sort of comedy of errors that started with my Dad hiring his friend (and him) to re-roof thier house. The friend had this roofing biz was not licensed or insured. I told my Dad I thought it was a bad idea, but he wanted to be able to help out my out-of work brother. So they are working on the house no probs first day or two (its a big house) and I guess it got hot up there, so my bro takes off his shirt and hangs it on a spotlight my parents have installed for security purposes on the roof. My parents rarely ever turn these on, but my mom accidentally hit the wrong switch when turning on the outside floodlights at that night. Next thing they know, 2am my mom wakes up my dad smelling smoke...looks out the window and the roof is on fire, she calls 911, while my dad runs out with garden hose and mangaes to get it under control. However, fire trucks were already dispatched, so a few mins later 2 huge fire trucks come up. (my parents sort of live in the woods with a long winding driveway) One truck gets up to the house and the second one didnt' see the first and runs into it, but it was just a fender bender. So the firemen get up there and make sure its out and stuff, then first truck manages to get out of the driveway after only taking out a couple small trees, but the second truck driver tried to turn around and took out my parents small lights that lead up the driveway, then got stuck! They had to call a giant towtruck to get it out! Next day I found a piece of the firetruck in the driveway and I use it as an ashtray. We pretty much laugh about it now, but it took a long time for my mom to get the smoke smell out of her closet.

urstwile
10-29-2007, 06:21 PM
Jacki, I'm really glad to hear you and your neighbors are okay.

CkretAjint
10-29-2007, 06:28 PM
Jacki I feel your pain. I currently moved and at the new place the previous tenant smoked, a LOT! and now everything I own smells like cig smoke while the apt place tries to figure out how to fix it. This it the most gross thing I have ever experienced and hate smelling like a bar on my way to work at 7:30 am.... MAJOR BOO!!!! :mad:

It's 2:29 right now, and I still smell like a heard of smoking women.... blah blah BLAH!!! I don't even want to invite my friends over cause of this!!! :(

Typically
10-29-2007, 06:36 PM
holy crap CA! tell them to pull the carpet and put a fresh coat of paint. they must have noticed that before you moved in. lazy landlords

CkretAjint
10-29-2007, 06:44 PM
Typically,

The place DOES have new carpets and a fresh coat of paint!!! This is how bad it was... INSANE! I think the AC should be replaced, and the ducts clean. I don't know what the deal with it is but it is seriously gross...

I've tried candles,
insense,
air freshers,
febreeze (I unloaded an entire can into the AC),
baking soda,
bowls of viniger around my apt,
wiped ALL the walls down with viniger and warm water,
I even bought a $100 o-zone air cleaner! (out of my own pocket)

It's still there. I hope they move me to a different apt coming up cause this is really gross (its a large complex)...

*sigh* so frustrating... :(

CkretAjint
10-29-2007, 06:49 PM
Ever had to stop while in the middle of 'it' cause you and your girlfriend couldn't breath cause of the air???

Yah, that's my apartment... *sigh*

Typically
10-29-2007, 06:50 PM
oh man that totally sucks. that dude must have smoked non-stop for like years. i bet the neighbors could smell it too.

Jackimalyn
10-29-2007, 06:59 PM
Well it doesnt smell like cigarettes, it smells like burning wood. I guess it could be worse?

CkretAjint
10-29-2007, 07:00 PM
I'll take burning wood over cigarettes. Trade Jacki?

Jackimalyn
10-29-2007, 07:04 PM
yea... no thanks...

Red Kittie Kat
10-29-2007, 08:42 PM
Glad you and everyone are ok Jacki.

frankster
10-29-2007, 08:43 PM
Sorry to hear about everyone's BBQ clothing. I would like to add to the rantathon...

We've had an "interesting" weekend. My husband said to me yesterday evening "well, today went quite well I think" and I had to remind him that if his definition of "quite well" is putting dead rats in the garbage, both of us spending the afternoon cleaning rat crap from our garage in masks and gloves and then going on a romantic jaunt to the local dump, followed up by a truck ploughing into the side of our elderly loser cruiser, 100 yards from our front door, then I'd hate to hear his definition of "a bit shitty". Hey ho, no more rat crap and no one is injured, so I suppose it did go "quite well" really. Now we have to go and electrify the garage because the snap traps ain't working. Those rats are frickin toast! Eat my earthquake kit and die!!!

Jackimalyn
10-29-2007, 08:45 PM
aww sorry frankster :( and thanks for the support everyone

CkretAjint
10-29-2007, 08:46 PM
Jacki and I think we have smell issues with smoke, imagine some fried rat!!! ;)

CkretAjint
10-29-2007, 08:48 PM
Called the apt place, they said they cleaned the coils on the AC unit and I should NO smell in a day or 2... I REALLY hope so! If it is not gone by Friday I will complain AGAIN! :D

Gonna keep running hte candles when I am home and the ozone machine I have. Can't hurt the process in anyway!!! Will try and keep everyone posted.

Kool
10-29-2007, 08:50 PM
Just start smoking, then you won't notice it at all, it's a win win, except for that whole dying of cancer thing ;)

Red Kittie Kat
10-29-2007, 08:51 PM
lmao Frank ... I wouldn't call that kind of day going quiet well ;)

I'm glad no one was hurt tho .. that part is scary :(

CkretAjint
10-29-2007, 09:08 PM
Just start smoking, then you won't notice it at all, it's a win win, except for that whole dying of cancer thing ;)

I wish it was that easy. I am pretty allergic to smoke and my GF who I love dearly is HIGHLY allergic to it... So much that she doesn't come over and 'hang out' cause of the new place smell.... BOO!

frankster
10-29-2007, 09:11 PM
I wish it was that easy. I am pretty allergic to smoke and my GF who I love dearly is HIGHLY allergic to it... So much that she doesn't come over and 'hang out' cause of the new place smell.... BOO!

http://www.proki.org/images/5000mask.jpg
mmmm, kinky!

budafist
10-29-2007, 09:57 PM
Jack, do you have a body corporate? Are you able to petition to stop smoking in your building? Most buildings around here are smoke free.

Jackimalyn
10-30-2007, 01:13 PM
Jack, do you have a body corporate? Are you able to petition to stop smoking in your building? Most buildings around here are smoke free.

That would never fly unfortunately, see I live in the US, where the minority rule. Smoking isnt allowed in common areas but in their own apartment, the can d owhatever they wat.

Update: My apartment building called a fire recovery company who set up big air filters in all the hallways. They're loud as heck but you can barely smell smoke anymore

urstwile
10-31-2007, 02:50 AM
beowolfe03, I removed your post as it is against forum policy to critique another designer's work here on the forum, without their knowledge, and your post fell within that limitation.

I sent you a PM to that effect, but since you are now under 10 posts, I don't think you'll see it until you post again.

beowolfe03
10-31-2007, 02:18 PM
Alright then. I'll be sure to critique her to her face next time. It's for the better, I suppose.
If half of the people claiming to be designers were actually critiqued with their knowledge right in front of them, maybe they'd stop and half of the things that yank my chain would be gone like that. Amazing.

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 08:24 PM
Well i'm sure this one will amuse a few of you guys...am I being stuck up, or is this person one of those "bad" designers, lol...

I've recently gotten hooked on yahoo answers for some stupid reason.

Basically someone posted a question on yahoo answers asking for someone to send them the Bodoni font free because her computer crashed and she needed to use the font to recreate a logo for one project - in her mind, i guess she thinks it is OK then to just steal a font - essentially it is what she was asking for! So here is the OP and my response below:

Bodoni Poster anyone?

I have to recreate a logo and the font I need is Bodoni Poster. I know I can buy it online but it's such an 80s font I know I'll never use it. Anyone willing to email it to me? Lemme know and I'll send you my email address.
~Thanks!

MY RESPONSE:

Asking for licensed fonts for free is kinda a crappy thing to do - especially on here. Bodini is a cool font, and you would be surprised what you can do w/ it. Many uses. I use it once in a while too.

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/a... (http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/atf-bodoni/)

For 7 styles in this Bodoni family its $24.75

Buck up and pay for it, geez, why is it that no one feels they should have to pay for things?

IF this is for a school project, I don't see any reason why your school wouldn't have the font. IF this is for a client project, just CHARGE THEM for the font, or write it off. I assume your not a pro designer though, as pro designers don't go begging for free fonts, we buy them.

Ok so MAYBE i was a tad rude and could have answered it better, but I see these types of questions on here all the time, and it gets annoying after a while...

Anyways, the pissed off poster emailed me this message:

Subject: Bodoni Poster
Message: What a rude reply. My computer had a serious crash and some fonts got toasted.
BP was one of them, it comes out as an Ariel substitution. My boss isn't around to give me a CC #.
Yes I am a professional, and if you were you'd
A- understand I needed it for a one shot deal and not be so freakin' snippy
B- rarely if ever use the font yourself because it was beat to death in the 80's




As if trying to RATIONALIZE why it is OK to steal a font...Its 24 bucks! GEEZ! Anyways wanted to share that, and would love to know if I'm in the wrong here, or if this person just doesn't care about industry practices on whats right and wrong! I just might have to send her to this thread/post so she can "GET IT"....maybe she will even learn a little something about what a real pro designer is all about! :)

GraphixNPrint
10-31-2007, 08:29 PM
you were right and she was wrong period.

If she was into stealing it, a simple search she could have found it illegally posted out there.

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 08:36 PM
Thank you I thought so too...I just received a message back after my response back to her on me thinking she is still wrong, and trying to explain why...she just does NOT GET IT!

Message: I'm not interested in having a pissing contest with you.
It was a one shot deal, I was on dealine, get over it. I wasn't trying to "STEAL", it didn't even occur to me.
Fonts are regularly shared in this industry, and if you don't know that you must be very young. I called friends in 2 local studios and they don't have it.
Of course I back up my data but that has absolutely nothing to do with fonts. You should know that.


I think this is kind of funny actually, it DIDN'T OCCUR TO HER THAT IT WAS CONSIDERED STEALING! I did send her a link to this thread, I hope she joins up and learns about what being a pro designer is really all about. Maybe she'll learn something! :P

WannaBrie
10-31-2007, 08:40 PM
hmm, i'm with you DVHL, "borrowing" a font, no matter what the circumstances are is stealing. period. Fonts are not regularly shared in this industry. I don't "share" mine with anyone.

CkretAjint
10-31-2007, 08:44 PM
I lost my credit card number. Can I borrow someones out there? It's only for a 1 shot deal, I swear I'll never use it again after I am able to do what I need to accomplish. My brain crashed and I just need SOMEONES information out there... :rolleyes:

Watch someone email her the 'file' and its a huge nasty virus that crashes her machine again...

:p

Virgo Nightingale
10-31-2007, 08:45 PM
If I paid for my font, why the fudge should I just give it to anyone who wants it for free? I'll "share" my fonts with a printer who's printing a job for me, but even they're supposed to have paid for a license to use the font in question.

And what's wrong with Bodoni? I use it fairly often. I think it had a nice classic style.

CkretAjint
10-31-2007, 08:45 PM
I don't "share" mine with anyone.

Me neither. NEVER EVER EVER have. I share them with people in the company but only cause we have the license to do so. Any person outside these doors would be stealing it if they used them...

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 08:47 PM
Exactly, I don't share mine either...if she is then she's just not working under professional practices I suppose. Maybe she THINKS she is sharing fonts, but they are all w/ in her company and are paid and licensed...who the hell knows...All i know is that i am not gonna lose sleep over it...just something that really 'jerked my chain'! :P

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 08:49 PM
Watch someone email her the 'file' and its a huge nasty virus that crashes her machine again...

:p

we can only hope....lol! I hope no one sent her the file though...doubt anyone would...

i really just hope she comes on here and takes our advice, and learns proper ways to do things as a designer. I think this person is more uneducated than anything else and didn't realize she was doing something wrong...but rationalizing it after I told her it is wrong, i mean come on!

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 08:54 PM
And what's wrong with Bodoni? I use it fairly often. I think it had a nice classic style.

I agree! I use it sometimes too for lots of text, or even a nice header...I find this "80's font fun to work w/ sometimes" Just because a font was USED a lot in the 80's doesn't mean it is "out of style" maybe her work is just OUT OF STYLE, lol! dang i'd love to see what kind of work this person does, lol.

Drorain
10-31-2007, 08:56 PM
There comes a point in time, you want to tell your client/boss...

Dude stop, this is getting pancaking rediculous

srsly

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 08:58 PM
lol havin' one of those days Drorian?

Virgo Nightingale
10-31-2007, 09:00 PM
Well, some fonts didn't make it past the 80's. Benguiat.... Chainlink/Serpentine... I don't consider Bodoni to be one of them.

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 09:03 PM
ha ha yeah i concur,
Benguiat is one ugly font!

beowolfe03
10-31-2007, 09:19 PM
Hear hear.
Now can we get rid of Papyrus yet?
Please?

cornfed
10-31-2007, 09:20 PM
I hate papyrus!

I just got my bancomicsans bumper sticker in for my car. Now I just have to wash my car so I can stick it on there!

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 09:21 PM
I think it is time we geta banpapyrus bumper sticker now too then! :P

beowolfe03
10-31-2007, 09:24 PM
lol. My father ingrained in me the concept that bumper stickers do not belong on bumpers, but boy, if it ever becomes uningrained, bancomicsans would be the first sticker on there, followed shortly by papyrus and a mucky yucky sticker that says "Jilt all Occular Bane"
How I miss baddesignkills.com

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 09:28 PM
I have the BEST bumper sticker ever, my dad picked it up for me years ago....i've never been one to use stickers on my car either (only the vinyl stickers that come on/off in the window) :P But this sticker said:

"I'm an artist, I create all sorts of neat shit" Shiny black w/ bold white type.

I dunno really like it, thought I'd share since we are talking about bumper stickers! :) I haven't stuck it anywhere tho! I don't know what to do w/ it, so it sits in a drawer...i should just tack it to a new sketchbook or something..I need one. :)

cornfed
10-31-2007, 09:35 PM
This will be my first bumper sticker to ever put on my car! I think it will look good since my car is black and the sticker is, too.

beowolfe03
10-31-2007, 09:46 PM
I'm also too afraid that my pee-oh-ess car will die and then I'll be out of a cool bumper sticker, you know? I've just started putting them on my guitar case, which holds a guitar that I don't play, but looks cool covered in stickers.

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 09:48 PM
ugh i'm so annoyed...now i've been called a bitch by this person who thinks i'm some sort of a pro design crusader, lol.....and hey maybe i'm wrong here now...she said she did own the font, but her computer crashed and the font is corrupted. Does that make it right for her to ask a stranger on yahoo to email her the font because she already paid and owned it? I would think there are better ways to get your font back...even under a deadline! Such as contacting the company you bought it from!

So just wondering designers: IS IT ok to ask someone for a font if you bought the license for it, but the font got corrupted?

SHE DID NOT explain that in her original post...

I know this isn't that big a deal...i'm just having a day and this keeps sticking...esp. since she's being so crass w/ me.

budafist
10-31-2007, 09:48 PM
I am doing a brochure entirely set in Papyrus. The client's logo used to be in Papyrus, but I actually convinced them to change their logo and now their log is in Rotis semi serif.

But they didn't like their brochure set in Rotis so what the hell can you do?

I take no responsibility for this brochure frustrating all their design educated clients.

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 09:59 PM
buda, didn't u post about that a while back, or was it someone else stuck using Papyrus? Blech! Dejavu!

budafist
10-31-2007, 10:11 PM
Hmmm...could be. This project has been dragging on for a while.

Oh no, am I becoming one of those old women that keep repeating her stories!?

DesignVHL
10-31-2007, 10:20 PM
HA HA I knew it was true! :P U know what tho, I'm guilty of the same thing, but I have ADHD to blame it on!

Virgo Nightingale
11-01-2007, 02:08 PM
Oh no, am I becoming one of those old women that keep repeating her stories!?
That's my boyfriend. He's so burnt, he'll tell you all about something that happened to him two days in a row. If he's feeling especially burnt, he'll tell you again the following week.

CkretAjint
11-01-2007, 02:17 PM
I have ADHD to blame it on!

*pets his ADHD like a furry little bunny*

O how I heart thee!

budafist
11-01-2007, 10:08 PM
My sister always complains that I tell her the same stuff. But it's because I don't see her for weeks or months at a time so when I do see her, say twice in a week, I tell her all the stuff that's happened to me in the last month or so.

Only last night it was really bad. I started telling her a story but then I realised that she was with me when the story happened!

teniworks
11-02-2007, 01:22 AM
For some reason, on my way to work in the morning (it's in the city) there are a lot of pedestrians which is fine until they just run out in the middle of the street. They actually laugh while running (or sometimes walk very slowly) across the street. Do these people want me to hit them so they can catch a case? I believe that people do not have a healthy fear of cars and how they can make you go "splat" when hit by one.

GraphixNPrint
11-02-2007, 01:36 AM
For some reason, on my way to work in the morning (it's in the city) there are a lot of pedestrians which is fine until they just run out in the middle of the street. They actually laugh while running (or sometimes walk very slowly) across the street. Do these people want me to hit them so they can catch a case? I believe that people do not have a healthy fear of cars and how they can make you go "splat" when hit by one.Suggestion: create the artwork of a huge dent with an embedded body for your car. Get it printed and installed by a professional car wrap firm.

Might make them think twice before crossing in front of you!

But, be ready to get stopped by lots of cops.

Typically
11-02-2007, 01:10 PM
Suggestion: create the artwork of a huge dent with an embedded body for your car. Get it printed and installed by a professional car wrap firm.

Might make them think twice before crossing in front of you!

But, be ready to get stopped by lots of cops.

that is an amazing idea. i'd get make derek jeter the person embedded in my car =]

Typically
11-02-2007, 01:21 PM
why do almost all chain letter that people feel compelled to send to me have to be written using the "font that shall not be named?" i may have read it but the font just made we wanna stab myself in the face with my mechanical pencil!

John G
11-02-2007, 01:29 PM
across the street. Do these people want me to hit them so they can catch a case?
In college, yes. It was even better if you got hit by a university vehicle. Free tuition.

speed limit was 25-30 but you'd have to go slower because of traffic... so moronic, but not deadly moronic.

beowolfe03
11-02-2007, 04:08 PM
Oh jeeze. This designer at this so-called "design firm" is using Corel Draw to make a brochure out of my design work (against my wishes, but I have no choice.) I send her the file and she's like, "I'm using Illustrator 7. Could you down-save this file?" Of course I can, because you're not using Illustrator 7, you're using Corel Draw and you can't open it unless it's in an ancient legacy format so you can destroy it in your ancient program!
Get with the 21st century, people! If you claim to be a design firm, please note that ADOBE IS THE STANDARD! If I wanted my work to look like it was created in Illustrator 3, my company wouldn't have spent the umpteen gazillion dollars for the bleeding CS2 creative suite!
*flings knives at stupid designers*
Also, brochures = InDesign. Come on.

So does anyone who used to work with Corel back in the day know a good format I could use to send this file to her and still be functional?
It's either Illustrator 3 or Illustrator 8 legacy, and I don't know if either will work well.

GraphixNPrint
11-02-2007, 04:20 PM
Flatten the files and send as jpegs ;)

WannaBrie
11-02-2007, 04:24 PM
Depending on their version, downsave to a ver8 eps and that should work. I think. maybe.

beowolfe03
11-02-2007, 04:28 PM
Flatten the files and send as jpegs ;)

Oooh...she wouldn't like that. lol
Not that I care or anything...

beowolfe03
11-02-2007, 04:40 PM
Depending on their version, downsave to a ver8 eps and that should work. I think. maybe.

Well, I'll certainly try it! Better than nothing, probably.
Thanks!

MD
11-02-2007, 05:08 PM
So does anyone who used to work with Corel back in the day know a good format I could use to send this file to her and still be functional?
It's either Illustrator 3 or Illustrator 8 legacy, and I don't know if either will work well.

Broacher loves Corel Draw and has extensive knowledge of the program. Drop him a PM.

beowolfe03
11-02-2007, 07:24 PM
Well, my boss informs me that it's not our fault that she uses outdated programs and that she is going to have to deal with the conversion problem herself. She's not paying us to do anything and technically she's a competitor (she is doing work that I should be doing to begin with, for heaven's sake, but the client insists that she makes the brochure instead of leaving it to the source designer, which is what smart people do so we don't have to go through this whole conversion crap.) So we're just going to have her stop by and pick up the bloody file on a CD.
So there.
I still fear meeting with her though---we already despise one another. Civility and I will have to be best buds on Monday.

frankster
11-04-2007, 03:33 AM
Big fat liars with their pants on fire!!!

Raaarrrr!!!! FRANKSMASH!!!

The muppets that drove into the side of our looser cruiser in their brand new SUV have lied their little stinky pants off to the insurance people and now we have to go to arbitration. Our insurance bloke said that it wasn't unusual and that in around 90% of these cases, people lie! 90%!!! WTF!?! 90%!?! so now we have to wait months for the two insurance companies to get some arbitrator to go over the two sides of the story before anyone gets paid back for repairs and hire cars. Oh yeah, did I mention that their tank sustained one smidgy scrape and drove off fine, while our poor bucket had to be dragged off looking like it had been assaulted by a monster truck. RAAARRR!!!!!! They are saying that our car was parked at the side of the road and pulled out infront of them without indicating. I wish that we had called the police to the accident scene because I have a feeling they would have a DUI right now if we had. :mad:

*Frank emmits low dangerous growling noise*

Virgo Nightingale
11-04-2007, 02:03 PM
This is why you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS get a police report. No matter how hard the other person begs and pleads that you not involve police or insurance. Even if both cars have just a tiny scratch. Even if you have no plans of bothering to repair or filing a claim with insurance. You never EVER know what the other person is going to try to pull. It really is for everyone's protection, and keeps everyone honest (or at least more honest than they might have been...).

Kool
11-04-2007, 02:44 PM
^^^ Yep, I had to learn that lesson the hard way. :)

frankster
11-04-2007, 03:34 PM
Slowly we are learning these American traditions the hard way. :mad:

Virgo Nightingale
11-04-2007, 04:19 PM
Well, it's not my tradition to screw over my fellow Americans, but it does happen, nearly happened to me. A girl rear-ended me and fled the scene, presumably once she realized I was calling the police. I managed to get a good visual of her license plate, and she ended up getting tracked down and given two tickets: one for leaving the scene of an accident, and one for no insurance. :eek:

She was lucky though, there wasn't enough damage to my car to bother with repairs (she ended up at least with a smashed headlight and turn signal as far as I could tell, and she'd have to pay out of pocket for the repairs), and I'm not the type of person to sue just for the sake of suing.

CkretAjint
11-04-2007, 05:04 PM
I agree, ALWAYS get a police report. I had some lady rear end me, thought nothing of it. A week later my insurence company calls me and says she is sueing me cause i stopped to short and now she has back pains :rolleyes: Stupid morons...

The_Black_Knight
11-04-2007, 07:22 PM
All you lazy-ass smokers that can't be bothered to find a trash can or car ashtray to put your cigarette butts in really piss me off. I should just empty bags of my garbage on your lawns, you pathetic, lazy-assed excuses for human beings.

Now cue all of the self-righteous smokers that claim they never just flick their cigarette butts wherever they happen to be... :rolleyes:

GraphixNPrint
11-04-2007, 07:40 PM
sounds to me like TBK just finished cleaning up his lawn or the street gutters around his house!

but TBK, not just smokers... lasy-ass kids that drop candy wrappers, idiots that put thier garbage out withour securing it somehow on a windy day... there are soooooo many pathetic people out there! :eek:

EDIT, and idiots throwing out beer and soda cans and bottles! argggg!

The_Black_Knight
11-04-2007, 07:47 PM
sounds to me like TBK just finished cleaning up his lawn or the street gutters around his house!Yup. You are correct.

but TBK, not just smokers... lasy-ass kids that drop candy wrappers, idiots that put thier garbage out withour securing it somehow on a windy day... there are soooooo many pathetic people out there! :eek:

EDIT, and idiots throwing out beer and soda cans and bottles! argggg!No, it's not just smokers, but I see more cigarette butts than anything else. I might see a couple of candy wrappers a month (which can blow in from anywhere -- cigarette butts pretty much just stay wherever they're dropped), and maybe a coffe cup or soda bottle once in a while, but the cigarette butts are always being tossed.

budafist
11-04-2007, 08:44 PM
Smokers at our house also flick their butts anywhere on our property outside. My bf will do it and when I tell him off, he says that he'll clean it up later. But why can't you just save the hassle of cleaning it up later by putting in the ashtray now?!

Doesn't make any sense to me.

Also annoys me when people make cups of tea and leave their tea bags all over the bench top. What's up with that. The rubbish bin is only under the sink. It's not that far away!!!

Then there's people that are filling the recycling (paper, glass, cans) bin with normal rubbish. How hard is it to separate? The recycle collectors won't take the recycling at all if they see normal rubbish in the bins. They leave you a warning sticker instead. It's so gross having to separate normal rubbish from cleaned recycling.

Good, got that out of my system.

GraphixNPrint
11-04-2007, 09:49 PM
Very good Buda... snack time for you ;)

frankster
11-04-2007, 10:19 PM
Rats! We spent last Sunday clearing out the garage of all the stuff the rats had chewed through, including the earthquake kit I made. Incidentally there was a nice 5.7 on Wednesday (perfect timing!) Anyway, after our romantic jaunt to the dump and snaptrap setting I thought we were getting somewhere. Turns out that removing the primary food source (our earthquake kit) just means that they are going to break into our kitchen and poo all over that instead, eat the children's wax crayons!?! and then to top it all off they found the back seats from the looser cruiser that's in the shop (see earlier rant) and had a good old chew on those too! I think I'm going to have to make the family tinman suits or we'll be next! Snap traps, electrfiying traps, glue traps, it's just not getting through to them! We even tried the sonic ones and they are a bag of arse! It would be cheaper and less stressful at this point for me to take a load of pseudoephedrin and sit up all night in the garage with an air rifle. GAAAHHHH!!!

Excuse me, we're off to the dump again right now to dispose of more chewed up belongings. :mad:

budafist
11-04-2007, 10:57 PM
You need a big angry cat!

frankster
11-04-2007, 11:17 PM
We do Buda! I don't know anyone with a cat that we can borrow though and we can't afford to get one for ourselves, plus we have no one that would cat sit while we go back to the UK and I can't bring myself to take on a cat when we don't know how long we're going to be in the US really. The poor things have to go through a tonne of quarantine if we were to take one back and I doubt a California born cat would appreciate being subjected to a UK winter anyway. I know someone with a chinchilla. Would an angry chinchilla do? I could poke it with a stick a bit.

budafist
11-04-2007, 11:26 PM
I think a pack of rats could overpower a chinchilla. Even one that has "been poked with sticks" rage.

frankster
11-04-2007, 11:29 PM
ho hum. :(

That reminds me of the who would win games that we used to play when we were bored on long car journeys.

e.g. An alligator or a black bear. Fight locatioin: shallow water?

urstwile
11-05-2007, 01:00 AM
Frank, there was a 5.7 earthquake on Wednesday? How did I miss that? Granted I'm not in S.F. but I would think I would have heard something about it. Then again, I don't watch the news but I would think my husband (who does watch the news) woulda told me.

As to the rats, that sucks. Have you told the landlord? Sounds like about time to have someone come in to exterminate or at least lay down traps or something.

frankster
11-05-2007, 02:20 AM
Yeah, we're getting onto the landlord in the morning. We just wanted to make sure that we'd done everything within our power first. The traps we've put down haven't done much.

The 5.7 quake was one on the Hayward fault about 8pm on Wednesday. I've not felt one that big since being here, so I got the kids under the big hefty kitchen table with me and put all our shoes on, but it didn't get more than a bit of a cupboard shaker for us thankfully. It was centered around the lower end of the bay (Milpitas area, which is a wee bit north east of San Jose).

urstwile
11-05-2007, 02:28 AM
I'm glad you're going to the landlord, sounds about time, from what you've described you've done all you could do, and rats are nothing to mess with, especially city rats. <shudder>

It's good to hear that the quake was mild for you. At that Richter level, I'm surprised I didn't hear about it!

budafist
11-05-2007, 09:53 PM
Got 2 new guys out in the factory and I totally forgotten their names. Don't you hate that? I can't ask them now because they've been working here for about a month now. Gah!!! Just bumped into one of them. Who greeted me by my name. Couldn't do the same back.

So bad with names.

Just hoping someone will get me to update the staff phone list and I'll be able to work it out from there :D

AlexNJ210
11-05-2007, 10:07 PM
im like that too, i have to make a concerted effort to remember peoples names when i first meet them. After a little while i remember no problem, but that first day or two, yea it takes me a bit. If i go out with friends and meet their friends, pfff, im lucky if i get through the night remembering 1 name haha.

WannaBrie
11-06-2007, 02:55 PM
[quote=frankster]Yeah, we're getting onto the landlord in the morning. We just wanted to make sure that we'd done everything within our power first. The traps we've put down haven't done much.



I know some will take me to task for this, (and you may have already mentioned it) but forget traps, put down some poison. Unless you have outdoor pets. A couple yrs ago I was having some rats partying it up in my garage and I just put the poison/baits in the path they were taking and that was that. my house is concrete block, so i didn't have to worry about them dying in the walls, tho, that is another concern. I know how much this situation sucks and I feel for you!

CkretAjint
11-06-2007, 03:13 PM
Just hoping someone will get me to update the staff phone list and I'll be able to work it out from there :D

This is one of my cheat sheets I made, emploee names, positions, and extensions within our dept. As soon as someone new comes in I go over get all the information and add it to my sheet. Plus it makes me look uber friendly and I get to meet all the hott girls first. ;)

Jackimalyn
11-06-2007, 03:21 PM
I get to meet all the hott girls first. ;)

Ah, the real motivation.

CkretAjint
11-06-2007, 03:23 PM
Hey, I'm a guy. What did you expect?!? :p

GraphixNPrint
11-06-2007, 03:29 PM
Hey, I'm a guy. What did you expect?!? :pNothing less ;)

frankster
11-06-2007, 03:37 PM
I know some will take me to task for this, (and you may have already mentioned it) but forget traps, put down some poison. Unless you have outdoor pets. A couple yrs ago I was having some rats partying it up in my garage and I just put the poison/baits in the path they were taking and that was that. my house is concrete block, so i didn't have to worry about them dying in the walls, tho, that is another concern. I know how much this situation sucks and I feel for you!

I'm afraid we absolutely can't do poison. Neighbours have pets that roam and our 18 month old is still in the pick it up and eat it phase. Our basement is just a hole under the house that has multiple access routes from the outside. The house is 1940s and rather decrepid. The ratman that came over yesterday set more traps for us, in weird places that I would never have thought of, like he crawled under the house and set some (said they were partying under our bath tub because it is warm). Screwed some vertically to the walls under the holes in the garage too, which I would never have thought to do. Popped my head in the garage this morning and saw we'd got a couple last night. Going to have to wait till later to empty the traps though. Poor husband has the barfing flu now on top of it all, so it's only a matter of time before I start talking to god on the big white telephone. Good times.

WannaBrie
11-06-2007, 03:55 PM
That's a shame, Frankster, both about the flu and the rat thing. That's tough. Take some of that flu away or whatever (immune booster stuff) and maybe you'll get lucky. I know what you mean about the youngsters and roaming neighbor pets. I actually put the poison under the house, next to the garage (the only place that the roaming pets had no access to, but apparently where the rodents were getting in. They will also party under your bathtub becuase t hey can smell the water. (I could hear them scratching on the underside of mine, it was creepy!)

Well, hopefully the ratman did a good job of it and you will be rat-free soon. Sounds like he knew what he was doing.

WannaBrie
11-07-2007, 02:57 PM
The price of gas going up and its supposed to keep going...I saw a place today that had it at $3.15 a gal. It makes me sick.

Virgo Nightingale
11-07-2007, 03:05 PM
Even the cheap gas places around me are approaching $3. They were around $2.53 just a few weeks ago. :(

GraphixNPrint
11-07-2007, 03:14 PM
yep, crude oil should hit the $100 a barrel price over the next couple of days... so, expect $4.00 a gallon before the start of next summers driving season, maybe $5 a gallon during the peak of the driving season.

Kool
11-07-2007, 03:17 PM
Just in time for winter heating oil. Gotta love the oil companies. They didn't have a convenient hurricane or fire to blame it on this year so their excuse this time is "tensions in the middle east" :rolleyes:

BJMRGTIVR6
11-07-2007, 03:24 PM
"Tensions in the Middle East" huh?
I wondered why because normally it goes down this time of year...maybe because they couldn't raise it too much over the summer and thought they better raise it now so when summer 08 hits, we will be stripped of cash!

Reminds me of our Electric/Gas company here, they raised their rates 175% last year and want to raise it again this coming year because they weren't making enough or something...maybe people are using less of it anyway.

frankster
11-07-2007, 03:29 PM
If you take into account the difference in US liquid gallon size and UK gallon size then buying a US gallon of the regular petrol (gas) in the UK would set you back $7.70.

BJMRGTIVR6
11-07-2007, 03:52 PM
But things are spread out more so in the US.
When the settlers came, they wanted more land and thus cities and townships are more spread out here, so, on average we'll drive more to and from work and to shopping centers sicne they are not too many in seperate towns.

but I hear you about the difference in prices.

MD
11-07-2007, 04:48 PM
If you take into account the difference in US liquid gallon size and UK gallon size then buying a US gallon of the regular petrol (gas) in the UK would set you back $7.70.

But the price is probably the same once you strip taxes out. I read somewhere that 70% of the price of fuel in the UK is taxes.

frankster
11-07-2007, 08:49 PM
But the price is probably the same once you strip taxes out. I read somewhere that 70% of the price of fuel in the UK is taxes.

Yep, it's somewhere around 70%. Tobacco and alcohol are taxed heavily too. Packet of cigs in the UK now would be over 11 dollars. It's caused a bit of a tobacco smuggling problem.

You also have to remember that cars are way smaller in the UK. People just don't drive the whopping SUVs and flat bed trucks with camping shells around every day as a normal vehicle. My mum's car is a 1985 Nissan Micra. Here is a picture of a 1985 nissan micra with two grown men to scale it by. We used to call it the "Nissan Disapointment". It went 0 to 60 in half an hour, but I could drink petrol faster than it could.

http://vne-resource.iol.co.za/30/picdb/article0/1/d/102170

budafist
11-07-2007, 09:03 PM
And exactly how fast can you drink petrol Frank?

CkretAjint
11-07-2007, 09:14 PM
I <3 gas saving cars. Looking into getting a Honda Fit.Jazz down the road since it is such a great little car to zip around in!

frankster
11-07-2007, 09:14 PM
me personally, about 40mpg. If I'm on the highway I actually manage less, because it's harder to run fast and drink at the same time and I spill a lot on myself.

frankster
11-08-2007, 03:20 AM
The looser cruiser is a right off because the wheel was hit hard enough to damage the axle. :(

So now we get the value of the car (ten dollars and a bag of carrots) to purchase another "mystery box".

wanksticks!:mad:

Drawing a Blank
11-08-2007, 01:51 PM
So now we get the value of the car (ten dollars and a bag of carrots)

How big a bag of carrots? Must not be very big if you are also getting 10 bucks.

CkretAjint
11-08-2007, 01:56 PM
Get a Scion xB!!! Gas friendly and still partially SUV size. You can find a Gen 1 relatively cheap...

Kool
11-08-2007, 02:03 PM
This jerks my chain. New York's $25,000 dessert sets Guinness record (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071107/lf_nm_life/dessert_dc) If you have 25 grand you can piss away on a dessert then give it to somebody or someplace where it can do some actual good. There are plenty of people who are starving in this world and 25K could feed hundreds of them for a year. :mad:

morea
11-08-2007, 02:22 PM
wow, I'm with you Kool... that's offensive. :(

WannaBrie
11-08-2007, 02:22 PM
I read about that too, Kool and it made my blood boil. How can people sleep at night wasting $$ like that. Makes me sick!

Cheadle
11-08-2007, 02:26 PM
wanksticks!:mad:

pmsl! :D

Crimson
11-08-2007, 02:32 PM
The looser cruiser is a right off because the wheel was hit hard enough to damage the axle. :(

So now we get the value of the car (ten dollars and a bag of carrots) to purchase another "mystery box".

wanksticks!:mad:


Thanks for the laugh. I got a loser cruiser at home too with a flat tire and cracked wind sheild. I was gather my carrots to think about a new car and got lucky with my grandma's old car. It's the best thing we have had in a while. Sadly our other car just got a new engine- then got repo'd. When we got it back my grandma's car lost it's battery and the starter needed replacing. I think the tire going flat on the other too- I really hate cars right now.... Hard to fix them when your bank account is negative. Good grief- Add the gas price hike and crappy traffic. I can't wait to get to heaven. But knowing my luck.....

fredrich
11-08-2007, 05:35 PM
I <3 gas saving cars. Looking into getting a Honda Fit.Jazz down the road since it is such a great little car to zip around in!

Funny story, that car was supposed to be named Honda Fitta when released in Norway, Denmark and Sweden. Unfortunately, "fitta" is a vulgar term for a woman's genitals in these countries. It's now called Honda Jazz. Could have been a little funny if it had been released with the original name, because some Japanese ads proclamed that the Fitta "is small on the outside, but large on the inside". :D

Virgo Nightingale
11-08-2007, 05:40 PM
Chevy had a similar problem with its Nova in Latin countries. In Spanish, "no va" means "it doesn't go/it doesn't work." Executives were scratching their heads for a long time trying to figure out why its sales were so horriffic in Mexico & South America.

budafist
11-08-2007, 06:31 PM
That $25,000 makes me boil too. But then I would be made if I was asked to pay $25 for a chocolate sundae.

At least the $1,000 bagels are to raise money for scholaships?

GraphixNPrint
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
Buda, don't be upset...

really though, I don't know what the license fee would be for this Chocolate Sundae... but the preview is free ;)

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/70/86/23398670.jpg

frankster
11-09-2007, 04:58 AM
Public service announcement.

You are advised to keep your vehicles more than 100 meters away from Frankster. It seems that by merely touching a car she has the power to make it inexplicably die. The car we just borrowed off a mate after the loser cruiser bit the dust has just met it's demise in our driveway. It may be the alternator, it may be the devil urinating in our kettle, who knows!?! I'm about ready to give up and bust out my rollerblades.

Insert exasperated look here.

GraphixNPrint
11-09-2007, 05:25 AM
Frankster, just remove the potato from the tailpipe ;)

budafist
11-09-2007, 07:11 AM
Hey Frankster, I don't drive. Wanna be my friend?

frankster
11-09-2007, 07:24 AM
Sure thing Buda. I miss being able to do what I needed to do without a car. I managed just fine in the UK and we only got our first car when me and the hubster were 26 and 29. I am feeling the urge to turn my back on the automotive world once more.

Unfortunatly getting a bus now involves...

folding up the kid's stroller whilst trying to stop the three year old running off down the road and holding the one year old like a squiggling sack of weasels and then trying to wrestle all three objects up the steps onto the bus and then feeding the paper money into the machine whilst trying not to maim the people in the front seats with the folded up stroller and stopping both kids from doing the Godzilla and Rodana in Tokyo routine all the way to where we are going, then repeating the whole ordeal in reverse to get back off.

urstwile
11-09-2007, 07:50 AM
Ack, Frankster, that sucks.

Alternatively, you gave me a LOL moment describing getting on the bus with the girls. So hopefully that makes it a teeny bit better. :D

Drawing a Blank
11-09-2007, 01:11 PM
squiggling sack of weasels

I actually wrote that one down so I will remember to use it later. Couldn't they be wombats though?

WannaBrie
11-09-2007, 01:26 PM
Frankster, that's bogus. But you made my morning as well with that description of you and the kids battling the bus! Sorry about the car, though...

Virgo Nightingale
11-09-2007, 02:20 PM
I can't believe I forgot to post this...

Those of you who are observant and have a good memory may recall that I was very busy a couple weeks ago with political mailers. And if you're not one of those people, well, now you know.

So I've got politicians and politicians' helpers stopping by constantly with dribs and drabs of material, discussing among themselves what mud they should or should not sling and how to "color" that mud, telling me to add such-and-such town to this mahoosive county mailer, politicians' helpers standing over my shoulder as I'm working at my computer implementing their changes, random candidates emailing me several megabytes of poorly-taken photographs that I have to fix in Photoshop but no content, other candidates giving me the tiniest changes to how their "bullet points" are worded... I could go on and on...

When all is said and done, I had worked on: 12 large folding pieces for the county (all the same on one side, but with the other side for the candidates of whatever particular town that portion of the mailing was being sent to), 8 mailers for Town A (of which 4 were for one candidate), 4 mailers and 2 half-page newspaper ads for Town B, plus 2 mailers each for Towns C and D which I had to delegate to another designer as I was too busy.

I busted my ass and stayed late several nights, but got everything finished and finalized and printed with enough time for the mailing house to drop certain pieces at the post office on this certain day, certain other pieces the next day and so forth. This way, people receiving more than one piece would get them in a stragetically timed and planned order and not all on the same day.

In the meantime, the mailing house this will all be sent to is working on sample ballots for the county, which by law, must arrive at the post office no later than Oct. 31st at noon. He was running late with that and it didn't get to the post office until the next afternoon. A bad thing in and of itself. What caused his delay is unknown to us, but because of that, all our pieces got pushed back. Things that should have been dropped at the post office on Wednesday and Thursday didn't get there until FRIDAY. That one candidate from Town A had three of his mailers arrive all on the same day. He was LIVID about that, btw. And some mailers wouldn't arrive until Election Day (too late if someone votes in the morning and gets their mail in the afternoon), or even worse, the day after Election Day. Not only is this useless as far as persuading voters, it also makes the politicians and the organizations responsible for helping them get elected look like idiots.

The worst part is that the guy running the mailing house had assured my boss on Tuesday that everything was in order and would be delivered on time, but never called back to let him know that he was in fact running behind on everything.

The political groups we worked with are NOT happy, they know it's not our fault directly, but we're guilty by association because we're the ones who hired this mailing house. One of the helpers is a lawyer with a reputation of being rather vicious in the courtroom, and he hasn't stopped talking lawsuit (not us, the mailhouse). My boss was also worried that we'd lose some of these political accounts which would be a big blow since this is what gives the business a cushion during the slower winter months. They've all since smoothed things over and agreed to keep using us, as long as we NEVER use that mailing house ever again for their pieces.

It just upsets me that I work so friggin' hard to get projects out on time, and someone else screws it up so half that hard work was for next to nothing. :mad:


Thanks for listening to my rant. Continue with whatever you were doing.

GraphixNPrint
11-09-2007, 02:41 PM
Virgo, tell your boss to get a mailing permit and run them all to the post office yourself next year... if your capable of running variable data mailing lists at your place.

Virgo Nightingale
11-09-2007, 02:47 PM
Our office is pretty small, the only printing we do in-house would be a run of under 500 pieces. The small-to-medium-run printer we already use to print 95% of those political pieces is considering expanding their facilities to become a small mailhouse, so that might be an option. The printer that does our larger runs (like that big fat set of county pieces) already has mailhouse capabilities, so that stuff will likely go to them. One of the main reasons we do (or did) business with this mailhouse is because they had merged with a marketing company we already had a relationship with.

And now that I think about it, there were 3 other mailers for two other towns I forgot to mention as being part of that political workload. Yeah, I was swamped.

GraphixNPrint
11-09-2007, 02:55 PM
well at least now your done we get to enjoy your wit here on the forum again :D (except for comments about me being a simpson!) ;)

Virgo Nightingale
11-09-2007, 03:01 PM
I didn't call you a Simpson! I just said your penis was yellow. :D

GraphixNPrint
11-09-2007, 03:11 PM
:o (at a loss for words)

Drawing a Blank
11-09-2007, 05:42 PM
well at least now your done we get to enjoy your wit here on the forum again :D (except for comments about me being a simpson!) ;)
I didn't say you were a Simpson I just said you were a character on the show. Nothing wrong with that...and what is wrong with being a Simpson (OJ excluded of course)

Virgo Nightingale
11-09-2007, 05:45 PM
There's always Jessica or Ashlee....

GraphixNPrint
11-09-2007, 05:54 PM
being WITH one of them wouldn't be bad ;) I mean Jessica or Ashley

Virgo Nightingale
11-09-2007, 05:56 PM
I think your yellow penis might scare them away. So as long as you're okay with just hanging out with them and wishing and dreaming and drooling, you should do just fine.

GraphixNPrint
11-09-2007, 06:09 PM
I think your yellow penis might scare them away. So as long as you're okay with just hanging out with them and wishing and dreaming and drooling, you should do just fine.:eek: :o

AlexNJ210
11-09-2007, 08:39 PM
but i thought graphix was a lady????? now im confused :(

Virgo Nightingale
11-09-2007, 08:47 PM
Um... really? :o

GraphixNPrint
11-09-2007, 08:48 PM
but i thought graphix was a lady????? now im confused :(<Takes a knife to the genitalia ... it was yellow but now its gone! :eek:

No.... am a dude and always been one... :o

Virgo Nightingale
11-09-2007, 08:53 PM
Whew! That's what I thought...

frankster
11-09-2007, 08:56 PM
You have to post in the names to faces thread now, because all this talk has made me think you look like the guy from Sin City!... I'm going to have nightmares!

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/06/09/wbyellow_narrowweb__200x270.jpg

reuber1
11-09-2007, 08:59 PM
You have to post in the names to faces thread now, because all this talk has made me think you look like the guy from Sin City!... I'm going to have nightmares!

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/06/09/wbyellow_narrowweb__200x270.jpg
You mean the little kid from Man Without A Face (or racial tolerance)?

frankster
11-09-2007, 09:05 PM
You mean the little kid from Man Without A Face (or racial tolerance)?

Nick Stahl, that's the one! I'll be very relieved if Graphix looks more like the unyellowbastarded version of him though.

AlexNJ210
11-09-2007, 09:06 PM
<Takes a knife to the genitalia ... it was yellow but now its gone! :eek:

No.... am a dude and always been one... :o


uh....sorry....haha, maybe i just caught your posts at the wrong time/context. heh, ill shut up now...:o

AlexNJ210
11-09-2007, 09:07 PM
Nick Stahl, that's the one! I'll be very relieved if Graphix looks more like the unyellowbastarded version of him though.

I remember seeing some movie where he gets shot in the eye by the husband or ex husband of his older gf. Then his dad plots to kill the guy and gets away with it...cool.:cool:

edit: i cant type today sorry.:o

Virgo Nightingale
11-09-2007, 09:13 PM
I know Nick Stahl was also in the last Terminator movie and in HBO's Carnevale series.

GraphixNPrint
11-09-2007, 09:28 PM
uh....sorry....haha, maybe i just caught your posts at the wrong time/context. heh, ill shut up now...:oyou mean the one I posted when I was in drag? :eek: Just kidding folks... I like my boxers! :p

CkretAjint
11-09-2007, 09:33 PM
Having my car make horrible noises 3 hours after getting it out of the shop. THAT really jerks my chain!!! :mad:

*having his chain jerked* BLAH!!!

AlexNJ210
11-09-2007, 09:57 PM
what did you get done?

CkretAjint
11-09-2007, 10:42 PM
what did you get done?
Had a massive oil leak, turns out it was just the valve cover gasket. The rear main seal has a SLIGHT SLIGHT leak as well, but nothing to warrent a fix right now.

AlexNJ210
11-09-2007, 10:43 PM
i know, im in you other thread remember. ;)

CkretAjint
11-09-2007, 10:50 PM
i know, im in you other thread remember. ;)

Yep, just filling in other people who might have the same questions about what I posted... ;)

AlexNJ210
11-10-2007, 12:06 AM
righty'o chap!......carry on.

reuber1
11-10-2007, 12:21 AM
I know Nick Stahl was also in the last Terminator movie and in HBO's Carnevale series.
God, now there's a series I couldn't stand to watch after giving it a chance...not the Terminator, Terminator rules. Stuff blowing up + punches to the face + gunshots + special effects that still don't look half bad to this day = awesome

urstwile
11-10-2007, 01:41 AM
Gotta part ways with you on Carnivale, Reuber, I absolutely loved that show, I hated how abruptly it ended. :(

MarcyT
11-10-2007, 11:12 PM
My stupid boss--who has been a "graphic designer" for 20 years and doesn't know what hanging puntuaction is.

And all of the stuff in my (non)office doesn't fit, so I ask if I can move into the empty office across the hall. . .and he tells me he has a "vision" to use the empty office for paper samples and our sales person.

WE DON'T HAVE A SALESPERSON!!

Fast forward three days:
[My boss says in a staff meeting] Everyone, I'd like you to meet our new salesperson, MY SON, Matt

Nepotism is alive and well.

:mad:

GraphixNPrint
11-10-2007, 11:48 PM
welcome to the working world Marcy ;)

Really though, blood is thicker than the brain sometimes... have you considered giving you boss a special gift for the holiday season? ... maybe a lobotomy??

BJMRGTIVR6
11-11-2007, 12:26 AM
yeah the new salesperson route stinks.
sorry to hear that.

MarcyT
11-11-2007, 03:58 AM
welcome to the working world Marcy ;)

Really though, blood is thicker than the brain sometimes... have you considered giving you boss a special gift for the holiday season? ... maybe a lobotomy??


I'm hoping to give him an early present: (which will be the best gift I will have ever given) a resignation letter.

BTW, we're a very small company and I'm the only one who knows how to use InDesign and our biggest client (who makes up 80% of our business) will not work with anyone not using InDesign.

Aaahhhh, revenge will be soooooooooooooo sweet.

frankster
11-11-2007, 04:06 AM
I'm hoping to give him an early present: (which will be the best gift I will have ever given) a resignation letter.

BTW, we're a very small company and I'm the only one who knows how to use InDesign and our biggest client (who makes up 80% of our business) will not work with anyone not using InDesign.

Aaahhhh, revenge will be soooooooooooooo sweet.

Lol! Well that will certainly put the pressure on the new "sales staff". Tee hee!

cornfed
11-11-2007, 04:51 AM
The fun thing about nepotism is that you get to sit back and witness the disintegration of what was otherwise once a healthy relationship. It should be fun, interesting and fulfilling from where you're sitting.

budafist
11-11-2007, 05:18 AM
Tell you son to swap offices with you. Easy. :)

GraphixNPrint
11-11-2007, 05:41 AM
Tell you son to swap offices with you. Easy. :)Huh?? Its the bosses son not hers... and I agree with Frankster, sit back and watch the infighting so to speak. Or, go back to the labotomy idea. ;)

budafist
11-11-2007, 07:56 PM
Oops! I thought it was her own son. Now it all makes sense!

Drazan
11-11-2007, 10:10 PM
There was a girl (maybe 12) walking along with her mom infront of me at the grocery store. All of the sudden the girl throws whatever she was playing with in her hands over her shoulder ---- landing right in my face.

Me "Hey!"

They turn around.

Me "She just threw something that hit me in the face. It was those twist ties." My hands are full, so I motion to my feet where several lay.

Mother turns to girl "Did you throw those twist ties?"

Girl "No"

Mother gives me the evilest look and pulls her girl around and walks away.

Me " Well that was a bit rude" non to softly so about a dozen shoppers turn to stare at them.

Not Even An Appology.

CkretAjint
11-11-2007, 10:40 PM
What a dyke Drazan. Glad you're ok and it didn't poke your eye!

budafist
11-11-2007, 10:47 PM
Little brat!

Hate when parents side with their bratty kids.

PrintDriver
11-11-2007, 10:58 PM
It can be scary too. I was in one of those not-so-fast fast food joints last week, the place was mostly empty when this woman comes in with 4 brats. While she's in line the kids are running down the long bench seat directly behind me, jumping off into the aisle, running down to the end and starting over. I was just done with my meal, so I got up and quietly told the oldest of the kids to "stop running around while people are trying to eat and sit down."

Well, when I came out of the men's room on my way out the kid points me out to his mom and said "there's the crazy man who said something mean to me." At which point another patron, an older trucker guy, said to the mom, "ya, he told yer kid to sit down."

But it gave me pause to think what people will believe from their kids these days and that any man in this society is only one child's accusation away from being ruined for life.

budafist
11-11-2007, 11:22 PM
But it gave me pause to think what people will believe from their kids these days and that any man in this society is only one child's accusation away from being ruined for life.

Coming from an all girls, catholic school, I can tell you now, a teenage girl can be very vindictive. I feared for our single male teachers. You wanna be a teacher? You get married. Even then, if a teenage girl gets the wrong idea (say an unrequited crush) it can be a very scarey situation for a teacher. All you need is one girl to say something bad about you (true or false) and you career is tainted (if not ruined) for ever.

GraphixNPrint
11-12-2007, 01:57 AM
Not to mention JAIL time Buda... its happens all the time here in the US. The sad thing is, most of the time the teachers are guilty. :( But there are exceptions.

morea
11-12-2007, 10:55 AM
It can be scary too. I was in one of those not-so-fast fast food joints last week, the place was mostly empty when this woman comes in with 4 brats. While she's in line the kids are running down the long bench seat directly behind me, jumping off into the aisle, running down to the end and starting over. I was just done with my meal, so I got up and quietly told the oldest of the kids to "stop running around while people are trying to eat and sit down."

Well, when I came out of the men's room on my way out the kid points me out to his mom and said "there's the crazy man who said something mean to me." At which point another patron, an older trucker guy, said to the mom, "ya, he told yer kid to sit down."

But it gave me pause to think what people will believe from their kids these days and that any man in this society is only one child's accusation away from being ruined for life.

I had a similar experience... after a long day at the print shop (a few years ago, admittedly) I got back home (a small apartment complex; 2 buildings each with 4 duplex-style apartments) grabbed my bag from the back seat, and started inside. The neighbor's kids from the next building were running around the driveway and playing on and around our cars. (I had asked them (VERY nicely) one time before to please stay off the cars", and they told me that they could do whatever they wanted to, and that if I had a problem then I could go talk to their mother! Could you imagine? When I was a kid, if I had ever talked to anyone like that my parents would have made sure I couldn't sit for the rest of the day!) Well, I glanced at them but was too tired to say anything (it would have been futile anyway) so I just went inside.

I hadn't even had a chance to change out of my work clothes when the mother was on my porch. She knocked on the door and demanded to speak to "the person who just got home," so my ro