Things that jerk my chain...

[John G]

pretty much to prevent a lawsuit if someone tresspasses... you've got to kill them.

turn up the voltage
or amps... whichever one does it.

[GraphixNPrint]

Then the family sues, so you end up having to kill alot of people ;)

[frankster]

Reminds me of a story I once heard (true or not?) about a guy who put up an electrified barrier on top of his high perimeter wall, with the proper warning signage and everything. Mind you, you had to be climbing over the wall to even touch the wires. Guy gets sued by the family of a young man who allegedly attempted to break in, touched the wires and fell to the ground. Their argument was he couldn't read the signs......

Darwinian theory in action! Providing of course he was young enough to not have reproduced his "dumbass thieving git" gene.

[John G]

Then the family sues, so you end up having to kill alot of people
better than the ass that done it getting the money imo =\

[Typically]

Reminds me of a story I once heard (true or not?) about a guy who put up an electrified barrier on top of his high perimeter wall, with the proper warning signage and everything. Mind you, you had to be climbing over the wall to even touch the wires. Guy gets sued by the family of a young man who allegedly attempted to break in, touched the wires and fell to the ground. Their argument was he couldn't read the signs......

i think they should go further back with there argument then and sue the school system too for not teaching him how to read :D

they should make it a law that if you go to sue someone over something and they don't win that they should have to pay for the other persons lawyer fees and what not. people in this country are way to sue happy. i bet it would make someone think a lot more about suing someone if they had to cover the costs of the other person involved too

[Virgo Nightingale]

Wasn't there a case a while ago involving a homeowner getting sued by a guy who broke into his home because broke his leg trying to get in through the window? Or is that just an urban legend? Wouldn't surprise me if it was true.

I had a friend who was originally from Bosnia and she was telling me how amazed she was at how lawsuit-happy this country was. "In America, if you trip over a crack in a sidewalk, it's perfectly acceptable to sue the person who owns the sidewalk. In my home country, they'll tell you 'Dumbass! You should look where you're walking!'"

[budafist]

We have Government led (taxpayers money) Accident Compensation which stops lawsuits like those mentioned.

If you hurt yourself doing something silly, you get your doctors bills paid for, a percentage of your wages etc if you are off work for more than a week. It's not an JACKPOT idea like in America.

It is compensation for what is fair and to get your life back on track. It's not to make you rich by any means.

[morea]

one thing to note; I've known people who have been legitimately injured through no fault of their own and unable to get any compensation at all.

I believe that these outrageous lawsuits that everybody hears about ("only in America") make the news because they use loopholes in the law to get huge verdicts. I'd like to believe that they are the exception rather than the rule.

For the record, Americans are not ALL lawsuit-happy imbeciles. ;)

[budafist]

About disrespectful kids playing on the lawn - can you set up a remote control sprinkler system? You could even fill it up with vile stuff?

Can they sue if they're just stinky and wet?

[WannaBrie]

That's an amusing idea, budafist, but I am sure neither myself nor my nieghbor could afford to put in a remote control sprinkler system! It would be fun, though, to watch the little sobs run for it! But I think if I did that, their parents would finally realize that these kids exist, do to their stinkiness!

[CkretAjint]

...Can you set up a remote control sprinkler system?

My friend Rebecca, her father moved the sprinkler control box from the outside of the house, to the inside. Then when the Jehovah Witness people started making the rounds he would just turn the sprinklers on... Problem solved and he didn't even have to go outside!

You could do the same thing only use it on the kids...

[CkretAjint]

Wasn't there a case a while ago involving a homeowner getting sued by a guy who broke into his home because broke his leg trying to get in through the window? Or is that just an urban legend? Wouldn't surprise me if it was true.

Kinda like the guy that that fell threw someones sky-light while breaking into their house. When he fell he landed on the counter, and the counter had a cutting board and sharp knife on it. He sliced his leg WAY open and sued them for it...

Pancaking retards!!!! :mad:

[frankster]

We have Government led (taxpayers money) Accident Compensation which stops lawsuits like those mentioned.

If you hurt yourself doing something silly, you get your doctors bills paid for, a percentage of your wages etc if you are off work for more than a week. It's not an JACKPOT idea like in America.

It is compensation for what is fair and to get your life back on track. It's not to make you rich by any means.

In Britain a couple of years before I left, companies were flooding the streets in city centers asking passers by "Hi, have you had an accident in the last three years?". Trying to drum up sueing custom from people that had not thought to go that route. It sucks! I used to get so mad at those people. I got acosted by them EVERY DAY on the way to work while I had my ankle in plaster. In the end I just took to saying "No, I'm not interested. I got drunk and fell down the student union steps. It's my own pissed up fault. Don't you remember me telling you this yesterday!?!" and they'd be all "Well we thought you might have changed your mind" and I'd have to say something along the lines of "Do I look like I've become a **** over night?". Grrrrr.

I was kind of surprised in Australia when the barman courses teach bar staff to refuse drinks to anyone that looks drunk, because if they get drunk enough to stagger out infront of a car and get hit then the bar can be sued for letting them get that drunk!?! WTF?!

[budafist]

Kinda like the guy that that fell threw someones sky-light while breaking into their house. When he fell he landed on the counter, and the counter had a cutting board and sharp knife on it. He sliced his leg WAY open and sued them for it...

Pancaking retards!!!! :mad:

That was in the movie Liar Liar. Though maybe they referred to a real life event.

[budafist]

I was kind of surprised in Australia when the barman courses teach bar staff to refuse drinks to anyone that looks drunk, because if they get drunk enough to stagger out infront of a car and get hit then the bar can be sued for letting them get that drunk!?! WTF?!

It is against the law to serve anyone that is intoxicated here. Not for that reason though.

[frankster]

It is against the law to serve anyone that is intoxicated here. Not for that reason though.

So what is the reason? and how do bars make a living? and how do people get drunk? Do they have to drink at home? On the street? How do people go out and get hammered on thier birthday? It's not like I get shite faced these days, but I used to. Do people just not get drunk there? How drunk is "intoxicated"? I'm drunk after one pint of Old Perc. Should I not even be served the one? :confused:

[budafist]

It's to keep people out of trouble I guess. You can drink, but once you start acting drunk, they stop serving you. I guess drunk is after about 8 beers. I've never been denied a drink at a bar, but my friends have. This normally happens just before they kicked out of someone for setting stuff on fire or starting fights.

I guess they figure bars are for enjoying a drink and being sociable, not hurling in the gutter after a fight.

Oh and bars most definately make a living. Kiwis drink a lot when they go out and beers cost around $7 each in a bar and only $1-2 each to drink at home. The mark up is horrendous!

After someone has spent about $50 at a bar, they normally walk to the next bar. That walk sobers them up enough to be able to order another $50 worth of drinks!

[MD]

After someone has spent about $50 at a bar, they normally walk to the next bar. That walk sobers them up enough to be able to order another $50 worth of drinks!

Sounds like Milwaukee Buda :D

$7 is pretty outrageous for a beer ... A bar just down the road from me has 90¢ tappers.

While visiting my favorite dive bar last week a question came up. If each of us (6 people) came into the bar with $50 each and pooled our money ... how long would the money last? The only rule is nobody can leave the bar until the money runs out.

Beer is $5.00 a pitcher.
Mixers are $2.50
Jukebox, Food, Cigs count. But there is no real good food - just crappy frozen pizzas ($5) and bags of salty snacks (75¢)

We are currently working on the details but we are probably going to attempt this. I have a feeling I will be taking a taxi home cause we will be drinking all day long.

[budafist]

Well, it's NZ $7 so that's about $5US but still pretty pricey. I have an inkling bottled beer from bars have the first tears of first born children in them. Hence the price increase.

Oh and that's flash city bars - It's a lot cheaper when you get out of the city. If you drink from a tap it's even cheaper.

[frankster]

I have a feeling I will be taking a taxi home cause we will be drinking all day long.

Trust that feeling. Qualified doctors refer to it as "sanity". ;)

[budafist]

Jukebox, Food, Cigs count. But there is no real good food - just crappy frozen pizzas ($5) and bags of salty snacks (75¢)

At the bar my bf used to work at, you could order pizzas at the bar. They were made at this amazing pizza place a few doors down. Since the pizza place gave the bar a discount, the bar was able to sell the pizzas for the same price the pizza shop sold them for.

In New Zealand it is illegal not to have food on offer in bars. Is that the case in other countries?

[hewligan]

Me and some friends went to a bar last Friday that serves these imported Belgian beers, that are all about 8 or 9% abv. We were definitely being served while intoxicated... Saturday was not pretty.

[budafist]

Yeah, but you weren't dancing over the bar and taking your jocks off were you?

[hewligan]

Yeah, but you weren't dancing over the bar and taking your jocks off were you?

Not that I recall...

[frankster]

Yeah, but you weren't dancing over the bar and taking your jocks off were you?

If that is the legal definition that demands the cessation of bar service then I have only ever been intoxicated once.

[budafist]

You were wearing jocks Frankster?

[frankster]

You were wearing jocks Frankster?

Only when I was drunk. Just before I was intoxicated.

[fredrich]

In New Zealand it is illegal not to have food on offer in bars. Is that the case in other countries?
Don't think that is the law here, but some bars do sell small boxes of peanuts and chili nuts (if that can be counted as food).

Around here, a 0,5 l tap beer in a bar (often only 0,4) costs about $10. Not to mention that beer sold at bars are not allowed to contain more than 4.7% abv. It's not unusual to pay about $18 for a drink in some bars.

So you can imagine it's a dream for us when we are abroad. In the middle of Prague, Czech Republic (tourist area), a beer usually cost between $1.50 and $3 in a bar or restaurant. Outside the city centre I've heard it costs about 50¢ for a beer. In the stores, you get a 0,5 l bottle for about 20-30¢, and the non-alcoholic variant is actually a tad more expensive. Not to mention they brew some of the best beer in the world (in my opinion). No wonder I've been there 4 times since 2005 (I'm only a student).

[bejamshi]

A friend of mine wanted a logo and a site made in 3 days, she also told me that budget is very low. I refused the offer by telling her that I am busy with work and that a site can not be made in 3 days.

Next day at a social gathering she stood up with her best friend and in front of a bunch of other people congratulated me on how busy and successful I am.
Pissed me off, how do i deal with people like this?

[Typically]

tell them to pancake off =]

[Jackimalyn]

punch them in the head.

[bejamshi]

I like that, :)

[budafist]

You say thank you and tell them one day they too will be able to afford your services.

I wouldn't do that, but I'd be thinking it or if had I blog, I'd be blogging it.

[budafist]

So I saw this "free self inking stamp" where you only have to pay for postage. It's a New Zealand website so I went for it. After filling out all the guff required, it turns out shipping for the stamp (stamp normally retails for about $3) is a whopping $19! OK, I had a box the size of a small dog sent to me from someone in New Zealand and they charged me $2.50. No way is a stamp the size of a nail polish bottle going to cost $19 to send. Who wants to pay $19 postage a $3 product? Even if the product is "free"?

Nothing is free these days is it?

[Typically]

air is still free but you can pay for it if you want =]
http://cdn.overstock.com/images/products/P10585061.jpg

[bejamshi]

buda that is another method of rubbing customers of their money, at first they grab your attention and then they slam on the shipping.
They do that on ebay all the time. What a crazy world we live in, if only people were not greedy and money hungry then we all would benefit.

[frankster]

Soooo, we're still catching rats, but this morning I find we have also caught three mice!?! WTF? I didn't even think rats would share space with mice like that. I thought they would be afraid of the big ol rats or something, but no, aparently these little nibblers must be riding the rats around our garage and kitchen at night like little mounted soldiers or something! (kind of like the fox riding the dog in Laberynth I imagine)

My husband goes out to the garage to drown the mice, but he makes sure the water he's going to drown them in is luke warm not freezing cold and actually says to them "sorry little guys. We just can't co-exist". He's such a hippie!

So infestations to count are rats, ants, snails and now mice. Do you think we can open our house as a zoo yet? :mad:

[budafist]

Soooo, we're still catching rats, but this morning I find we have also caught three mice!?! WTF? I didn't even think rats would share space with mice like that.

Maybe they have learned racial tolerance and are banding together to join forces against you?

My husband goes out to the garage to drown the mice, but he makes sure the water he's going to drown them in is luke warm not freezing cold and actually says to them "sorry little guys. We just can't co-exist". He's such a hippie!

That's cute.

So infestations to count are rats, ants, snails and now mice. Do you think we can open our house as a zoo yet? :mad:

You sure can. You will charge admission of course? Gotta pay for feeding those animals somehow!

[frankster]

Maybe they have learned racial tolerance and are banding together to join forces against you?

Racial tolerance is one thing. I could understand white mice living with brown mice in harmony, but this is "biological order tolerance". It's like us sharing an apartment and bathroom with a frickin silverback!

[budafist]

lol. I always imagined that rats were just big mice. Hence the racial tolerance thing. :D

[Virgo Nightingale]

Maybe they were yung'uns?

[frankster]

Nope, definately mice. Just caught another one! Little buggers are getting overly confident.

[hewligan]

How good are you at telling the difference? (http://www.ratbehavior.org/QuizRatOrMouse.htm)

[frankster]

11 out of 12. Just asked my older daughter to do the quiz with me too because we're playing on the computer together at the moment and she got 8 right.

Both kids love Buda's sig bunnies by the way ;) :D

The 20 month old is still asking "where mouse go? bye bye mouse!"

[Virgo Nightingale]

I got 10 out of 12... not bad...

[budafist]

10 out of 12 here too.

[CkretAjint]

10 outta 12 here!!! and I guessed. LOL

[budafist]

I guessed too.

[morea]

w00t! I got all 12 right. I wasn't sure on most of them though.

[MarcyT]

I got 12 out of 12 too! (But I'm a country girl. I am also one of the few people who know the difference between hay and straw).;)

[WannaBrie]

I got 10 out of 12 also, I thought I knew my mice from my...oh wait, no mice from rats.:D

[teniworks]

I got 12 out of 12. I guess it helps working in a pet store for three years.

[The_Black_Knight]

Requests for help with homework assignments on GDF really tick me off. And there seem to be a lot of them lately.

If you don't understand your assignment, talk to your professor. That's what they're being paid for (by you).

I had to do my own homework in college. I had to come up with my own ideas. So do you.

If you can't come up with ideas for projects in college (where almost any creative idea will be accepted, unlike in the real world where we have picky clients or have to follow established brand standards), then it's time to start giving serious thought to your career choice. As in, think about maybe doing something else that isn't creative.

I'm sorry if that's sounds discouraging, but if I'm looking to hire someone, even for an entry level position, they had better be able to come up with ideas without coming to the GDF first. If I caught an employee coming here to ask for ideas, I would fire them. If I was a teacher and I caught a student coming here for ideas for a project, they would fail the project, and maybe even the entire class.

If you want to be in the creative field, it actually helps to be, y'know, creative. As in, come up with things that don't exist yet. I think people love the idea of being creative more than doing the actual work involved in being creative. They love the idea of working as a creative for a hip agency in New York City, and not working as an accountant in some cubicle in Pittsburg. Just because you love the idea of being a creative doesn't make you one. It has to come from within yourself. You can't call yourself creative if you can't come up with any ideas for your projects in college.

Of course, since the people asking for homework help don't seem to actually READ anything (such as their assignments, textbooks, or design briefs), they probably won't read this, either, and will keep asking for help with assignments. :rolleyes:

If you feel this post is stepping on your toes, then maybe it's time to take a good, long, honest look at yourself, and ask yourself whether you're cut out for this field. Ask yourself if you're willing to work long, hard hours coming up with ideas and executing them, because if you don't, then you don't love being creative, and you don't belong in the creative field. Do it now before you finish school, and then realize you've made a bad decision. Because that's a pretty time consuming and expensive mistake to make.

[morea]

very true. Good points, BK.

[budafist]

I'm sorry if that's sounds discouraging, but if I'm looking to hire someone, even for an entry level position, they had better be able to come up with ideas without coming to the GDF first. If I caught an employee coming here to ask for ideas, I would fire them. If I was a teacher and I caught a student coming here for ideas for a project, they would fail the project, and maybe even the entire class.

Absolutely. Ideas shouldn't be thought up for you by people on forums. But asking for advice on ideas/concepts that you have already thought up yourself is fine.

[reuber1]

Having to sign up for an AIGA Membership just to view design jobs.

Having to fork over $210 for an AIGA Membership.

Having the closest AIGA chapter in Des Moines.

**** AIGA.

[budafist]

Why do you have to?

[John G]

If you want to be in the creative field, it actually helps to be, y'know, creative.
lol TBK everyone knows that if you can play with crayons, you're creative.

[reuber1]

Why do you have to?
Well, I suppose I don't have to, much in the same way I don't have to keep working where I work now. Local job boards and Monster/Career Builder aren't very helpful (WORK FROM HOME!!! or LOOKING FOR SALES MANAGERS!!! NO EXPERIENCE NEEDED!!! or Job X: Register at this Recruiter Site). I just think it's rather annoying, considering that's about the only use out of AIGA I think I'll get.

[tZ]

I haven't stumbled upon many request for conceptual work. Then again… I haven't been spending nearly much time here as I use to… which could be a good thing,lol

Oh yeah… bye the way. I have this project and need some,lol

Listen to the knight for he is wise.

[The_Black_Knight]

Listen to the knight for he is wise.Wise? Maybe. More like, "been doing this for too darn long."

[CkretAjint]

TBK, that can be a good thing as well!!! ;)

[budafist]

If you don't know, I work with a guy that does his works very slowly.

So we have a production board with named columns for each of us so that we can see who is moving through their jobs and how many jobs we have on the go. I do the delegating so I know that the workload is equal. The board says that he has 10 jobs to do where I only have 3 jobs (so far today). That's because I finished all my work yesterday and he's still got about 6 jobs from yesterday up there. It's a decent system because before then, it wasn't obvious that he wasn't finishing his work because I'd just do it all for him when I ran out.

So our receptionist walks in today and sees the board. She's all like: "Poor <insert coworker's name here> you have so much work to do today" It looks bad because the board only fits about 10 job tickets per column. It really peeved me off because she made me feel like I didn't do work around here or that I allocate a harder workload for him.

I wanted to say that it was mostly yesterday's work that he never got around to. I don't give him more work - if anything I'm too easy on him because I can't trust him to do anything more than 4 pages because he simply takes too long.

I wish I got a little smidgen of Gordon Ramsey's outbursts. Not a lot, but just enough to whip this guy into shape. Maybe I should through some things.

I refuse to do his work if I finish my jobs. I'm just going to tidy and clean my desk and that kinda thing. He has to learn to finish his work.

[WannaBrie]

I still think he has to learn to find another job, Buda. That's just not fair to the rest of you to have someone not pulling thier weight.

[CkretAjint]

Buda, this is a GREAT idea. We have this at our job as well...

Well, certain people (ie - my boss) takes longer on her jobs then I do (almost the same situation your in). Well they implimented a new system that works GREAT on the board... We write the job name on the board and the projected due date in black ink. Once the original due date is missed, we write the next projected due date in red next to the old black date (dont erase ANYTHING on the board). Once that red date is missed we write another red due date next to it, and so on.... Make sense?

This way no one can say "awwww, your so busy with work". WRONG!!! Actually your just slow and miss all your deadlines *rolls eyes*

Try that on the board. Might force people to pick up the pace there. *knock on wood*

[CkretAjint]

Also, in the Am we have a dept meeting. This is when you say if you are on track with your jobs or behind. It's not just "I missed that due date, I need a new one." You have to explain WHY you missed it. Sounds very 4th grader-ish, and it can be. But certain people need that extra push to finish their jobs in a resonable time...

Perhaps this employee isn't happy there? Has your boss talked to him to see what the deal is??

[Virgo Nightingale]

I know it seems like everyone there thinks this guy works at a snail's pace, has your boss ever actually tried to light a fire under this guy's ass to get him to pull his weight or risk getting the ax? I get the impression that he thinks his pace is just fine.

[CkretAjint]

...has your boss ever actually tried to light a fire under this guy's ass to get him to pull his weight or risk getting the ax?

Has he? Have you? You do deligate jobs to him. So perhaps your boss sees it as your job to push him and not just 'ignore' the situation.


I get the impression that he thinks his pace is just fine.

I concur...

[budafist]

We put fire under his ass and he works ok for 1 or 2 days. Then it's back to they way it was. I don't have the energy or the time (and it's not my nature) to grill him every day like he requires. I just want someone that can work almost unsupervised. After 5 months, I think he should be more than able.

Bosses have talked to him - seriously too. I think they feel the same way as me so now they mostly avoid him.

Maybe if I close my eyes real tight and wish really hard he will just disappear.

[CkretAjint]

I would have a 'performance meeting' with the boss(es) about him. Tell them how it is. He wastes their money, their time, and you are forced to waste their time and money by baby sitting him. It's not producing a good work environment and employees and customers are unhappy. Your constantly holding his hand and monitoring him and his work, you cant focus, and clients miss their due dates do to his slowness. It sounds like a fast paced company and he's not pulling his weight...

It's time to cut the fat. Even if he does do work, perhaps it's in the companies best interest to let him go.

*shrugs*

[budafist]

I think my bosses have actually given up on him. Seeing as we have 2 others to pull his slack, I guess they don't see him as a problem.

I know, I could fix this by being a dragon about this and I'd love to, but I'm not a confrontational person. I'm so passive aggressive it's not even funny.

Maybe the more I think about this, the more able I will be to have the confidence to be very strict with this guy. This is my first leadership position and this guy realises this and so he doesn't really pay attention to me. Not to mention that I'm female and younger than him. I do think that he has a problem with that.

[CkretAjint]

I would just pull him aside one day and tell him how it is. What's he gonna do quit? not work?? moan and groan??? PLays devils advocate and tell him you've heard the bosses talking and he needs to step it up. Be 'the nice one' ;)

No offense, but in a leadship position you gotta step up to the plate. My boss is like you, and I dislike it quite a bit. But I do wish she would speak up more often if she has issues with me or my work. It's not a big deal, I would rather HER say something then her boss talk to me. That drives me up a wall when HER boss comes to me about something. Cause that means she doesn't trust talking to me face to face, allowing me to correct the issue before getting someone else, higher ups, involved. THAT jerks my chain... ;)

I know your passive aggressive and hate the idea of doing that. I am kind of the same way. But if it has to be done it's gotta be done. Plain and simple. Better then dwelling on it.

Do you have enough power to give him the axe?

Ask the bosses if they like loosing money. and then explain the situation. I am sure they will look deeper into it once they realize they are loosing more money then making off him...

[Typically]

get NANKA after him

[budafist]

No, no power to give him the axe. It's really hard to fire people in NZ - worker's have rights well over employers here. Unless a worker breaks the law, if they turn up to work, they can't be fired.

Thank you guys for your encouragement on this. I realise I need work too as a leader and I promise to try and get there. I realise I'm not doing him any favours by being the way I am about this. I've never had a senior that had to be strict with me so I this is new to me.

Maybe I'll take some steriods so I can go all roid rage on him or something...

[frankster]

Maybe I'll take some steriods so I can go all roid rage on him or something...

Had this pic handy from the last time you suggested becoming a roid freak...

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1038/budabuilderib3.jpg

Your bosses need to realise how demoralising it is to the other workers to have someone taking the piss day in day out and getting paid to make everyone elses life hard work. Staff moral can really suffer. Honestly, how long have you been keen to leave your job now? Since St Inky and the person before him were a pain in the ass to work with?

[budafist]

Maybe I don't want to go on roids then. I quite like my soft middle :D

You are totally right Frankster. Staff moral has suffered so much here. People are quitting left right and centre. This is a company that when I started, had most people had been working here over 10 years. It's a problem with the whole place, not just in my office.

I never wanted to be here more than 2 years anyway. I came on board to learn prepress, pay my dues and get out. I'm just here to save money to go overseas now, so head down till then.

Before St. Inky I LOVED my job. I absolutely loved it to bits. Now, I deal with a bad smell on a daily basis and this guy that I'm supposed to be senior to that doesn't really listen to what I say. He only listens to me if he was going to do that anyway. This is not where I want to be.

[CkretAjint]

I agree with Frankster. If he doesn't have to work hard for his check why should I?

[budafist]

It's sad because the market here is oversaturated. There would be a hundred people happy to fill his spot.

[CkretAjint]

It's saturated everywhere. It's finding the good ones that can do the work that is the tough spot...

I just got this speach from the VP of marketing ehre the other day when I told him I am shopping around for other jobs in the area. I got the standard 'love you and your work, the market sucks, your such an asset, tough to find another great company like us' speach...

[budafist]

Client provides a tiny piece of artwork to go on their large printed wall calendar. When explaining to them that I need something bigger (I'd like minimum 5mb, they gave 60kb) they ask if I can just Photoshop it.

[budafist]

Gah! My coworker is going to drive me nuts.

Something so simple that he couldn't figure out for himself. It would have taken me less than 5 seconds to figure out what to do.

So I explained to him what he should have done. He looked at me blankly and said "that would never occur to me to do that". As if he had never been told where we keep our files.

wtf?

He couldn't find the pdf file for a job. He had the physical print outs plus emails in his hand and jumped onto my computer to check my emails to see if the client had emailed the final artwork to me. No they hadn't. All he had to do was look up the client's folder (that's file alphabetically) but he couldn't do that. All work that we do for clients is filed in alpha order. How hard is that?

I think even a temp that had been working here 1 hour could have found the file.

[bigrich1]

Printers that act like they're doing you a favour whenever they print a job for you!!! Whats up with that?!

[teniworks]

Buda, maybe the issue with your slow co-worker could be solved by giving him more work to do...but make it seem like you're not. In essence you would push him into an early "burnout" and he would quit. Do you know if he has any enemies? Make him think some is after him, make him fear coming to work. Seriously, the deal with the stinky guy also needs to be taken care of as well. (Unless they are one in the same) Maybe throughout the day whenever someone walks past him they should spray him with air freshener. Or light a match.

[PrintDriver]

Printers that act like they're doing you a favour whenever they print a job for you!!! Whats up with that?!

Depends on how YOU treat them...:D
That subliminal response usually comes from getting the files on the day you want the prints back...ie continual rush orders?

[budafist]

Buda, maybe the issue with your slow co-worker could be solved by giving him more work to do...but make it seem like you're not. In essence you would push him into an early "burnout" and he would quit. Do you know if he has any enemies? Make him think some is after him, make him fear coming to work. Seriously, the deal with the stinky guy also needs to be taken care of as well. (Unless they are one in the same) Maybe throughout the day whenever someone walks past him they should spray him with air freshener. Or light a match.

St. Inky (code for smelly boy) and the snail are one and the same! I have slowed down on giving him jobs these days because they won't get done in time. It's actually not been so bad this week. I had standards before. Now I have no expectations of him. He is a lost cause to me. It's freed me a lot and made me a happier person. If my other staff asks for her old job back, I will back her so I can be rid of this guy.

Though the other day my boss did rub it in St. Inky's face how efficient I was and told St. Inky to pay attention.

And I do spray our office with air freshner. It smells like fake lemons but that is better than the disgusting rotting meat smell coming off him. At first I waited 'til he left the room to give the room a spray, but sometimes I can't wait that long so I just squeeze the freshener near my desk.

[Red Kittie Kat]

I'm wondering if he has some health issue ... a smell like that for so long has to be more than just not proper hygiene :eek:

[budafist]

Well I know that he thinks that washing your hair is bad for you. Who knows what other stinky ideas he has?

[fredrich]

Well I know that he thinks that washing your hair is bad for you. Who knows what other stinky ideas he has?

Maybe you could try to donate him to a scientific project based on his theories?

[bigrich1]

Depends on how YOU treat them...:D
That subliminal response usually comes from getting the files on the day you want the prints back...ie continual rush orders?

I treat them excellently :D I even go as far as telling clients that they're putting unnecessary pressure on the printers by sending ME material late!! See how thoughful i am ;)

[budafist]

Man, one thing that makes us boil is when a client says that a job is urgent. Like needs to be printed, trimmed and packed in 1 day. We tell them the ink wont dry in that time and they say they don't care. So we slip sheet it and get it done on time. Then it sits in the office waiting for collection for 4 days. If it's an urgent job, you should be picking it up the moment it gets packed.

You cry wolf too many times, people will stop hearing you.

[CkretAjint]

You cry wolf too many times, people will stop hearing you.

I concur.

[teniworks]

One thing in particular that makes me oh-so full of rage is when people who are higher up on the agency food chain (actually she doesn't even work at the agency but, at a another that we partner with), sending me emails two minutes after we meet wanting jpegs for a powerpoint. Note these jpegs are of pieces for a presentation and need a lot of revisions and rounds of approval before even being turned into a jpegs. Then this heavenly creature calls me wanting her stuff NOW and proceeds to tell me what my priorities are and then hangs up on me. Hey! How about you realize that I'm working on another project that needs to go out the dor for my boss, the one who signs my check. And I also have to go through rounds of approval before I can even give you your stupid stuff! She can go and take her pancakin' jpegs and shove them up her butt. Which can be followed up by a tutoring session on manners given by M.Y. Foot Inherarse! You'd get a better result if you ask for things nicely!

[CkretAjint]

I don't want to interput your pancaking b*tch session... but... umm... Where are my JPGs?!? :P



I hate that too teniworks!!!!!!!! ;)

[BJMRGTIVR6]

I used to hate rush jobs that would not get picked up for a week.
I now hate rush ads that are rushed through in two days and then sit for up to two weeks since the manager didn't get teh date right and it wasn't really a rush ad.

[budafist]

One thing in particular that makes me oh-so full of rage is when people who are higher up on the agency food chain (actually she doesn't even work at the agency but, at a another that we partner with), sending me emails two minutes after we meet wanting jpegs for a powerpoint. Note these jpegs are of pieces for a presentation and need a lot of revisions and rounds of approval before even being turned into a jpegs. Then this heavenly creature calls me wanting her stuff NOW and proceeds to tell me what my priorities are and then hangs up on me. Hey! How about you realize that I'm working on another project that needs to go out the dor for my boss, the one who signs my check. And I also have to go through rounds of approval before I can even give you your stupid stuff! She can go and take her pancakin' jpegs and shove them up her butt. Which can be followed up by a tutoring session on manners given by M.Y. Foot Inherarse! You'd get a better result if you ask for things nicely!

That reminds me of this print broker that couldn't manage to keep his mac ops because he was too useless and they kept on walking out on him.

So he farmed all his work off to us which would have been fine only he wanted all his work done NOW. He would come in and give me a brief, we would agree on a reasonalbe time (like the end of the day) and he would call me only half an hour later to see where his proofs were. Look buddy, you are a client of mine. I don't work for you. If I did, I would have quit too.

It was funny when he was around and he was saying that he couldn't find any mac operators. There are loads of people here with degrees or gd qualifications looking for jobs! He just doesn't know how to treat people.

[Kool]

One thing in particular that makes me oh-so full of rage is when people who are higher up on the agency food chain (actually she doesn't even work at the agency but, at a another that we partner with), sending me emails two minutes after we meet wanting jpegs for a powerpoint. Note these jpegs are of pieces for a presentation and need a lot of revisions and rounds of approval before even being turned into a jpegs. Then this heavenly creature calls me wanting her stuff NOW and proceeds to tell me what my priorities are and then hangs up on me. Hey! How about you realize that I'm working on another project that needs to go out the dor for my boss, the one who signs my check. And I also have to go through rounds of approval before I can even give you your stupid stuff! She can go and take her pancakin' jpegs and shove them up her butt. Which can be followed up by a tutoring session on manners given by M.Y. Foot Inherarse! You'd get a better result if you ask for things nicely!

Damn! That was a good rant. http://koolsplace.com/images/angry039.gif

[budafist]

We had to do a xmas card for a national supermarket chain. The person we were dealing at the supermarket with just didn't "get" that we needed a print quality logo. She actually faxed us the logo to use!

So my coworker suggested that we just take the logo off the website. That to me, is a last resort for a print job.

I said that I would call their marketing department and get the eps. It didn't take more than 5 minutes to get to the right person in marketing to who emailed me an eps. For some odd reason my coworker still insisted that taking the logo off the website was a better idea.

Dude, it's a gif. We are printing it in 2 spot colours. Do you know what the pantone colours are? No? Ok, let's do it my way then.

Can someone please explain to me why he would think this?

Or is he just trying to drive me crazy? :mad:

[CkretAjint]

antisocial?

[budafist]

antisocial?

Hmmm....elaborate?

[CkretAjint]

Doesn't like the idea of talking to other people to solve his issues. Hence the web download was a better choice for him, he wouldn't have to talk to anyone.

[budafist]

Oh definately. He gets flustered and frightened whenever I ask him to answer the phone.

Thing is, I was like that once (when I was a teenager, well not quite as bad). I got over it after working a job in a office having to call health insurance claimants. I think you get over those things with practice.

I should give him some difficult clients to deal with. Maybe that would sort him out a little. :rolleyes;

[CkretAjint]

Not difficult, but very phone heavy clients. You know those ones that call in their revisions instead of emailing them to you? Give him those clients. After about 2 weeks he might open up a bit more! :p

[frankster]

Not difficult, but very phone heavy clients. You know those ones that call in their revisions instead of emailing them to you? Give him those clients. After about 2 weeks he might open up a bit more! :p

Urgh! I don't accept revisions over the phone. They have to be emailed. I need proof of what the client has requested in thier own words in case they are complete eeejits and tell me the wrong thing or change thier mind and feel like saying they said something different. I can't be arsed taping my phone calls for that! If they want to clarify verbally then whoopee, but there has to be something in writing too. It only takes a minute.

[CkretAjint]

I completely agree Frankster, no worries! But I have 1 client that EVERY SINGLE TIME has to call and tell me her revisions and then I say "That is no problem, please email or fax me those revisions and I will be happy to take care of them for you." 15 minutes later I get an email...

EVERY... SINGLE... TIME...


You think she would save her hot air and just email me them with the prefix phone call she unleashes on me! But no... :p

[budafist]

We do most things by email but I have a few clients that will only make changes by phone. They are the kinds that need to make a bunch of changes quickly but can only type with 2 fingers.

He does get some clients on the phone now but the worst thing for him is talking to someone he doesn't know. I guess he avoids it a lot. More than a handful of times I will walk into the office to find all the phones ringing and he is sitting there alone ignoring all of them. At my office we pick up phones. It's better that our customers hear a real voice and leave a message for the person they really want to speak to or can get their question answered etc than for them to call back later. We might lose the business right?

[reuber1]

I completely agree Frankster, no worries! But I have 1 client that EVERY SINGLE TIME has to call and tell me her revisions and then I say "That is no problem, please email or fax me those revisions and I will be happy to take care of them for you." 15 minutes later I get an email...

EVERY... SINGLE... TIME...


You think she would save her hot air and just email me them with the prefix phone call she unleashes on me! But no... :p
This was the norm at my last job. Someone would call me to tell me they were going to e-mail me. Just pancakin' e-mail me. Their one 'quick' phone call to simply tell me exactly what they would in the e-mail turns into about 20 minutes on the phone, and they have a hard time explaining verbally what they want, when it would be so much easier to just write the damn e-mail and have it laid out to where I can go back to it without wondering "What did he/she say?" Ughh, it's e-mail...USE IT.

[Mynock]

Getting busted minding my own business peddling crack through the hotel lobby.

[Typically]

Getting busted minding my own business peddling crack through the hotel lobby.

who would suspect an infant?

[WannaBrie]

Typically, why do you have naked mole rat as your avatar today?

[The_Black_Knight]

I think a better question would be, "Why don't we all have naked mole rats as our avatars today?"

[Mynock]

That IS a good question.

[WannaBrie]

yay naked mole rats!

[AlexNJ210]

what did i miss....mole rats?

[budafist]

Mole rats this and mole rats that. Everywhere you look: Mole Rats!

[Red Kittie Kat]

I'm getting used to my new look :D

[AlexNJ210]

scary.....

[budafist]

You mean scary in a sexy kind of way right? You wanna see some skin?

[mrktguy29]

I find it rather disturbing actually.

[Typically]

I find it rather disturbing actually.
how about this then?
http://brucearmstrong.net/graphics/doctored/horror5%20(VERY%20disturbing.%20Hide%20the%20kids' %20eyes).jpg

[WannaBrie]

oh god! that's horrible! Thank you Typically, yes very disturbing.

[CkretAjint]

2 for feeding on... well, you know where. and 1 for the belly button? :confused:

[mrktguy29]

OK, that wins.

[mrktguy29]

OK, so you all may have some suggestions. The company I work for has a a little over 200 agents and we have a montly ad which holds all of the agents photos and a list of open houses for that week. (It is a real estate company) They complain there photo is to small and want it bigger, but yet they complain about the cost. We use a 2 page spread to fit on average 190 agents on. We have talked about moving the open house listings to a half a page on the next page so we would have the full 2 page spread for use to make the photos bigger. I have came up with a design, but the size of the photos are not that much bigger and only because of proportion.

Any thoughts? A gun to the head maybe?

[CkretAjint]

Pitch it, seems like in this case they can't have their cake and eat it too. It seems pretty black and white, this way or that way...

Personally I would talk them into ditching their personal images. Stop being so damn vain and plastering your ugly mug all over hosing stuff. I know that is your 'image' and that helps you sell. But when I am looking for a house I wanna see the house, Not your picture, or you with your dog or you on a boat. I don't care. If the house is right and the price is right you could be a 2 foot tall, crack dealing midget that looks like a naked mole rat and I'd but the house. Not cause you ad had you and you dog taking up 3/4 of the sapce available!

/rant

[mrktguy29]

I'll let you tell that to them. I sometimes feel like a daycare worker.

[Virgo Nightingale]

I should send that to my fiancé. Weird things like that freak him right out.

[budafist]

When I'm looking for a house I certainly don't give a rat's ass what the real estate agent looks like.

[mrktguy29]

It is an ad that works a couple of differnent ways. It promomtes the name, and shows the size of the company. it only runs once a month. the other 3 weeks we run the actual properties.

[budafist]

Nothing to see here...

[CkretAjint]

It is an ad that works a couple of differnent ways. It promomtes the name, and shows the size of the company. it only runs once a month. the other 3 weeks we run the actual properties.

SHIYATE! They get there annoying mugs printed 12 times a year. What else do they want? :rolleyes:

[DesignVHL]

the real estate biz has some of the worse design i have ever seen! Cram Cram Cram!

[mrktguy29]

If you only knew... I think my last time doing the ad I will draw devil faces on them before i send to be published.

ha ha

[mrktguy29]

I try and try to get them to cut stuff, its all a marketing scheme. Less information the more calls you can get on the property, this brings business, maybe not for that property, but possibly another. You still make commission on having buyers! Some or most are to lazy to accept phone calls.

[DesignVHL]

nothing wrong w/ a little subliminal graphic or inside joke that no one else will notice on there if u can get away w/ it! :P

[DesignVHL]

Some or most are to lazy to accept phone calls.

Sounds like a familliar issue/problem in my office too w/ our sales team!

[Virgo Nightingale]

Our company works on this big fat "Wall of Honor" every year that gets displayed at this real estate conference for the biggest sellers at this one major real estate conglomerate. Every agent's photo is displayed along with their franchise's name, city, and awards won. Some of the photos are horrible – not only the typical horrible scans or photos pulled from websites, but silly shots of them wearing the special blazer with the logo, talking on their cell phone and holding a clipboard or binder with the logo. All at once.

[mrktguy29]

The biggest problem is getting them to allow me to do a more modern approach on design. TRADITIONAL, TRADITIONAL, TRADITIONAL... So I meet them half-way.

[budafist]

shots of them wearing the special blazer with the logo, talking on their cell phone and holding a clipboard or binder with the logo. All at once.

Some people just have NO IDEA! :eek:

[DesignVHL]

You must be refering to Remax Virgo! lol j/k!

I had a friend ask me to design his bcard for him...he was w/ remax...they supplied the most horrible graphics and logos....but i made my friend get me a good photo of him. My bcard was the best designed card in his group! Even tho they make you cram all those crap logos in there. He wanted as contemporary a design as I could get - using red white and blue....of course.

I know, marketing marketing....as someone very familiar w/ marketing concepts, most real estate firms WAY WAY WAY overdue it...which actually often times HURTS their business more than help.

[mrktguy29]

Our company works on this big fat "Wall of Honor" every year that gets displayed at this real estate conference for the biggest sellers at this one major real estate conglomerate. Every agent's photo is displayed along with their franchise's name, city, and awards won. Some of the photos are horrible – not only the typical horrible scans or photos pulled from websites, but silly shots of them wearing the special blazer with the logo, talking on their cell phone and holding a clipboard or binder with the logo. All at once.

I love when they bring a picture the size of my pinki nail and expect to print a business card at 300dpi and it look professional. They also want you to remove the wrinkles, edit hair color, take 20 years off their age, plastic surgery "graphic style"?!?!? The world may never understand.

[mrktguy29]

I never meant that is was effective. Personality gets in the way of that alot of the times.

[DesignVHL]

I love when they bring a picture the size of my pinki nail and expect to print a business card at 300dpi and it look professional. They also want you to remove the wrinkles, edit hair color, take 20 years off their age, plastic surgery "graphic style"?!?!? The world may never understand.

This reminds me of some old comics that Computer Arts UK mag used to publish. They were called "It's a Designer's Life" and they were SO GREAT! I have one I REALLY want to show you guys because it goes along PERFECTLY with what we are disucussing in this thread...from blowing up tiny graphics, to "can't you just, you know, photoshop it?"..its SO GREAT! His name is Brad Guigar. You can check his work out here....but i can't find those Design Comics! I feel guilty scanning in the ones i have to post them! :P

http://www.evil-comic.com/

[fredrich]

Fandecks...$85
Shipping...$92

Anger...priceless

[Virgo Nightingale]

Val: ERA. Close enough. ;)

[Drawing a Blank]

The biggest problem is getting them to allow me to do a more modern approach on design. TRADITIONAL, TRADITIONAL, TRADITIONAL... So I meet them half-way.

Where exactly is the middle in the 1950's?

[Drawing a Blank]

This reminds me of some old comics that Computer Arts UK mag used to publish. They were called "It's a Designer's Life" and they were SO GREAT! I have one I REALLY want to show you guys because it goes along PERFECTLY with what we are disucussing in this thread...from blowing up tiny graphics, to "can't you just, you know, photoshop it?"..its SO GREAT! His name is Brad Guigar. You can check his work out here....but i can't find those Design Comics! I feel guilty scanning in the ones i have to post them! :P

I think this is the comic VHL was thinking of http://www.greystoneinn.net/d/20040330.html

[mrktguy29]

Where exactly is the middle in the 1950's?

Still trying to find a happy medium.

[budafist]

I reckon you look up somethine designed 30 June 1955 and you be sweet!

[mrktguy29]

STARRING AT 214 AGENT MUG SHOTS IS BAD FOR THE EYES. FYI

Working on a new design for this 2 page spread and fitting EVERYONE on it.

[urstwile]

Service employees (airline customer service people, token booth operators, store clerks, etc.) who spend as much time giving you a rude, unhelpful answer as it would take to give you a polite, helpful answer. That jerks my chain.

I noticed it a lot in both Pittsburgh and New York, on our trip. But I don't think it's because they're ruder cities, as much as I'm rusty about certain things (when it comes to NYC anyway), and so I probably ask more questions of service employees when I'm there than I usually do here at home. I've never really understood rudeness.

Sarcasm, on the other hand...:D

[budafist]

That sucks Urst.

I'm friendly to service people - they are simply doing their job.

One thing that really jerks my chain though, is when I'm making a complaint about something or need something fixed. I have found that if I am friendly and nice, the person on the phone won't be very helpful to me. They will try and charge me money to have the problem fixed, even if the problem isn't my fault. I have found if I call angry, make threats like switching to their competition, then problems get fixed for free and much quicker.

That SUCKS!

[teniworks]

Something that has been jerking my chain recently is the person in the office next to ours smokes pot all day long-everyday. His smoke seeps throughout our office making it super stinky. You would think that you would only get so high before it no longer affects you. And he's been bringing groupies over as well and they have all been lighting up like crazy. Maybe he should take up popping pills at least those don't have a smell.

[Drazan]

Is this at your work or the business next to yours? (I'd turn them in if it's affecting you. One thing to do it at home in privacy another to do it public and affect others who may not want that side effect. )

that sucks

[urstwile]

Where in the heck are you working teniworks, that he can get away with that at work?

[budafist]

That's bad.

My flatmates used smoke pot. It was a smoke free apartment in the city so it meant that cigarettes were smoked outside, but since the apartments were close to others, they didn't want to smoke weed on the balcony in case others smelled it so they smoked in their rooms. Smelly!

[teniworks]

Where in the heck are you working teniworks, that he can get away with that at work?

I work in an old converted mill that has individual interior offices. This guy is a painter/ photographer and has his own business right next door to us. I don't think anyone can stop him unless we call the cops. He came up to one of the AE's one day asking if she knew where he parked his car. She didn't even know what kind of car he drove!

[WannaBrie]

whoa, that's freakily funny teniworks! I can't imagine working next to an office where someone smoked so much weed I could smell it. I am so jealous!

haha! Dude, where's my car?

[budafist]

Are you renting? Most places around here need smoke alarms to get any kind of insurance. Can you put that up with your landlord?

[reuber1]

Ugh, WTF is with people today? I had to work 8 hours or so, but it was all completely isolated from shoppers while I worked solo on the store signing in the back (which I am more than happy to do specifically for the aforementioned reason), but afterwards, whether it be on the road or at the grocery store, everyone was just a giant bunch of *******s.

Like the guy who cut in front of me at the line at the grocery store (a fire fighter, no less) as he clearly saw me limping my way to the checkout five feet in front of me (ankle injury still hasn't healed), and he was a massive douchebag to the cashier, who in turn was a frigid bitch to me. Or another middle aged hag who wouldn't give up any ground in one of the aisles even after a polite "excuse me" as I was trying to hobble my way through to the checkouts with two gallons of milk and some bread in tow. Maybe there's some solace in being mean to people? Ugh, here's hoping for some karma.

Oh, and the Bears lost. :rolleyes: Goodbye season.

[budafist]

There there reubs, it's ok. Wanna hug?

[reuber1]

There there reubs, it's ok. Wanna hug?
No, just some vigilante justice. 'Tis the season.

[budafist]

Nanka?

[budafist]

OK, so one of our clients requested open files for a business card. He said his designer had Illy and PS so I gave him eps files.

They call back with all sorts of problems. They can't get the layers to separate, can I please send the esp with each element on a different layer? It's a worry.

I had to talk the designer through how to edit each element in Illy. Surely if you have ever used Illy you will know that it's not necessary to have separate layers for each element in the design. Surely?

[tZ]

I want to brutally injure anyone in the self-checkout lane with more then say… 15 items. I swear… every time I stop by Walmart to get something really quick I end up sitting in line for the longest amount of time because some idiot who barely knows how to use the self checkout in the first place is none the less there with a damn cart full of crap. On top of that people who get right next me as I'm checking out. Some people will just get right f**kin next to you as if your not even there. Drives me f**kin mad.

[mrktguy29]

I am rude when I have to be.

[reuber1]

I want to brutally injure anyone in the self-checkout lane with more then say… 15 items. I swear… every time I stop by Walmart to get something really quick I end up sitting in line for the longest amount of time because some idiot who barely knows how to use the self checkout in the first place is none the less there with a damn cart full of crap. On top of that people who get right next me as I'm checking out. Some people will just get right f**kin next to you as if your not even there. Drives me f**kin mad.
Amend those to my d-bags of yesterday.

[sierng]

Yes I'm feeling abit grr right now too.. grrrr

[Typically]

Something that has been jerking my chain recently is the person in the office next to ours smokes pot all day long-everyday. His smoke seeps throughout our office making it super stinky. You would think that you would only get so high before it no longer affects you. And he's been bringing groupies over as well and they have all been lighting up like crazy. Maybe he should take up popping pills at least those don't have a smell.

that must be some good pot if you can smell it through the walls :D when you smell the stench go over and ask him to light some incense or pass it your way haha. i bet he doesn't know that you can smell it.

[Virgo Nightingale]

Tell him he should eat pot brownies or pot cookies at the office instead of smoking. Less stinky and less intrusive. ;)

[DesignVHL]

I think this is the comic VHL was thinking of http://www.greystoneinn.net/d/20040330.html


HA! your the best! That is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thank you!

[WannaBrie]

Some people will just get right f**kin next to you as if your not even there. Drives me f**kin mad.

TZ, that drives me absolutely crazy. i'm not weird about my "personal space", but I mean please, I do not need to feel your hot smelly breath on my neck or feel your cart pressing up against my ass! BTW, this only seems to happen to me at Walmart. I've never encountered this space issue anywhere else. :confused:

[CkretAjint]

haha tZ. That happened to me this weekend when I went to the races at Sebring. I was standing in line to get some tickets, and some putz in line behind me was like .5" from me. I swear I could feel him breathing on my neck. So I just turn around and said, "It would be more pleasureable for both of us if you just stuck it in me already!" His chin hit the floor and he screamed " IM NOT GAY, YOU F***ER!!!!" EVERYONE turned and looked at him, and he turned beat red.... LOL. Crack me up!!! I bet he will never do that again ;)

[mrktguy29]

I have found being mean is what people like, I dont understand it, I was raised to treat people as you would want to be treated. The world may never make sense.

[Typically]

haha tZ. That happened to me this weekend when I went to the races at Sebring. I was standing in line to get some tickets, and some putz in line behind me was like .5" from me. I swear I could feel him breathing on my neck. So I just turn around and said, "It would be more pleasureable for both of us if you just stuck it in me already!" His chin hit the floor and he screamed " IM NOT GAY, YOU F***ER!!!!" EVERYONE turned and looked at him, and he turned beat red.... LOL. Crack me up!!! I bet he will never do that again ;)

hahahah that's awesome! i would have been dying laughing if i heard that.

[mrktguy29]

haha tZ. That happened to me this weekend when I went to the races at Sebring. I was standing in line to get some tickets, and some putz in line behind me was like .5" from me. I swear I could feel him breathing on my neck. So I just turn around and said, "It would be more pleasureable for both of us if you just stuck it in me already!" His chin hit the floor and he screamed " IM NOT GAY, YOU F***ER!!!!" EVERYONE turned and looked at him, and he turned beat red.... LOL. Crack me up!!! I bet he will never do that again ;)

Ohh the ever so typical expressions of the uber "I'm not gay" men.

In my human sexuality class today we talked about something similar to that, he might have a touching fetish. Sadly the dumb@** of the class HAD to bring up the 2girls1cup video, I thought a reaction from one person was good, a class of 40 is PRICELESS, and that was without watching the video.
(If you don not know what I am talking about consider yourself lucky)

[Typically]

2girls1cup!!!! so vulgar!

[mrktguy29]

I agree.

[cjdevlin]

didya let him finish?

haha tZ. That happened to me this weekend when I went to the races at Sebring. I was standing in line to get some tickets, and some putz in line behind me was like .5" from me. I swear I could feel him breathing on my neck. So I just turn around and said, "It would be more pleasureable for both of us if you just stuck it in me already!" His chin hit the floor and he screamed " IM NOT GAY, YOU F***ER!!!!" EVERYONE turned and looked at him, and he turned beat red.... LOL. Crack me up!!! I bet he will never do that again ;)

[mrktguy29]

HA, If it were me the shear embarassment of the situation would take care of any 'need' that was being fulfilled. Oh people, I question sanity most of the time.

[teniworks]

People who micromanage really make me mad. We are trying to get these holiday cards printed out and I come to find out that the printer we were going to use originally can't print the envelopes for the cards. Fine-I'll find another printer and send out more quotes. So I tell the boss who freaks out and wants the cards and envelopes printed at the same place. So I send out requests and make calls and she's on my ass every hour. "Did you get the quotes yet? You need to call and bug them. I've called such and such and they gave me a quote over the phone before." Hey! I am not going to bully people into giving me a quote. There are probably 3000 other people who need the same thing that I do. I understand the importance of the situation but, I refuse to harass people. It's not my style. People are more inclined to give you what you need when you are nice and don't bug the hell out of them. Then I'm told by the boss that they don't have any confidence in my ability to get this job out because I'm not bullying people. You what? It would go much more smoothly if you would just get off my f***in' back!!!! MONKEY!!!!

[budafist]

Get a jpg from client for a 2 spot colour job. Ask for an eps. Get an eps with a jpg copy and pasted into it.

Awesome!

[CkretAjint]

Them: What are the PANTONE colors for that logo?
Me: There are none. There are too many colors to assign PANTONE colors to them in it, so it is just a 4 color CMYK logo.
Them: That's okay, just give me the 4 PANTONE color break downs...

:rolleyes:

[Riya]

Them: That's okay, just give me the 4 PANTONE color break downs...

:rolleyes:
Process Yellow, Process Black, Process Cyan and Process Magenta. ;) that should make um happy.

[tZ]

Them: we need you to make this little edit
them(10 min later): we need you make this other small edit
them(10 min later): we have decided you don't need that one there anymore. So you can strike it.
them(30min later): Our copy editor found another small edit…

I swear. Then they think that these little edits take no time to resolve. As if removing those two lines in that justified block of type just "magically" resolves its f**kin self. Now I know why very few people in their right mind would spend time actually manually justifying line by line. get your shit together then have me make it look decent!- ahhhhhhhh! Instead their philosophy is hand me what they have and once I have the design in pace they make all these little f**kin edits that totally destroy the integrity of the design. Which basically results in a rework of the piece and a waste of my damn time.

I just recently had to try and explain pantone to one of my current employers. That was a mess…

For now I just say if your printing digitally then pantones are useless – don't even think about them. That saves me the headache.

[MD]

2girls1cup!!!! so vulgar!

But not real - Probably Chocolate Mousse.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/1130071onecup1.html

[Typically]

people waiting till the 3rd revision to finally go over the work and make corrections.

giving me 4 additional flyers that are due the same time as the rushed catalog.
then telling me that they need 10 photos shot and clipped also.

all in a days work right?

[WannaBrie]

F***ing sprint/nextel! My parents and I have a joint account, they keep calling my phone (I suspect they are trying to get us to purchase additional whatevers) asking for my Mom. I have told them probably 25 times that "this is not her phone, please make a note of it" They called yesterday, I told them again. They called again today! Morons!

/rant.

[cjdevlin]

I've had Sprint for 10+ years and got only 2 calls from them in all of that time. If they're asking for your mom, they may need to discuss the account with her.

:)

[Virgo Nightingale]

Quest Diagnostics really REALLY jerks my chain.

Last year, my bf (who's without medical insurance) had to go for a particular kind of test. Because he's without insurance and essentially poor, Quest said "Just fill out the form that we will send to you in about 2 weeks, and your cost will be greatly discounted." Two weeks go by, they send nothing. But he does get a bill from them for the full cost of the test. :confused: He calls and calls and calls, and keeps getting the runaround about the forms he's supposed to fill out for them.

In the meantime, since he hasn't paid the bill, it gets sent to a collection agency and we start getting harassing calls. Apparently, since the bill has already gone to the collection agency, it's out of Quest's hands and it must be paid in full, no way around it. He promises them that he will pay them a little at a time, if, and only if, they stop calling. He even has his friend (a lawyer) call them to get their word that they will stop calling. They don't – and on top of that, I get hung up on when I bitch at them for calling a week after they've arrived at this agreement for him to pay a little at a time. "Well we haven't received payment yet." "Um, yeah, it's only been a week, you think you might give him a little while to perhaps receive his pay from work and make out a check to you?" <click> And they do still call every once in a while. :mad:

Fast forward to a couple months ago, he has to go for this test again. I think he even requested to not have to go through Quest Diagnostics, but the doctor who's been treating him (and his family for many many years) deals only with Quest (contract, or some crap, I don't know why). Anyways, he explains to the billing department at Quest what happened to him last year, and expresses his vehement desire for this to not happen again. They say "We promise, we'll send you the forms, you'll get them in two weeks."

He just got a bill from Quest yesterday, for the full cost of the test. :mad:

[MD]

Snow.

[morea]

what bugs me more than the snow and the sub-zero temps is the fact that it's dark at 4:30 every day! :(

[mrktguy29]

Sounds like a story for Michael more to add to "Sicko"

Although there are holes in the medical industry, I find the bigger holes in the insurance industry. I say find a way to fix the holes, but dont makes this issue a jumping point for politicians. As for universal healthcare (aka socialization) I am not in support of.

[WannaBrie]

I've had Sprint for 10+ years and got only 2 calls from them in all of that time. If they're asking for your mom, they may need to discuss the account with her.

:)

I figured that they need to discuss the account with her, but if that's the case, then they need to CALL HER, not me. She has her own phone with its own phone #.

[budafist]

My mother used to get calls all the time from a debt collection agency. Turns out that there was a lady with a similar (not the same) name to her that lived in the city we used to live. Everytime they called, they refused to believe they had gotten it wrong and demanded that she prove that she wasn't the lady they were after.

Ridiculous. There must be heaps of people that have the same name as each other - similar really doesn't cut it.

[Virgo Nightingale]

I used to get phone calls from a debt collector for a business that used to have the phone number I'd just gotten for a landline. Every friggin' morning they'd call at 10am (doesn't sound all that late, but I was working nights at the time and waking up no earlier than noon). I never answered because I knew it wasn't for me (everyone I knew called my cell and/or knew I wasn't up yet), and when I finally got up and answered to bitch out whoever it was, they were surprisingly understanding when I explained that this was a private residence and not the business they were looking for. The calls stopped after that.

[teniworks]

Bosses who try to crush your soul by saying mean and hateful things.

[budafist]

Bosses who try to crush your soul by saying mean and hateful things.

That's terrible!

[reuber1]

Snow.
Yarp. We're supposed to get hit again tomorrow, which will make it an ice storm and two snow storms in a span of five days here.

I need an AT-AT.

[John G]

Bosses who try to crush your soul by saying mean and hateful things.
Parents who do the same thing, just not intentionally.


crap i'm being emo today, time to go buy some blades...

[Mynock]

I need an AT-AT.Agreed, but I'm sure if I had one I'd still have the scrape the windows and I'm sure it wouldn't start all the time. I'd take a AT-ST quicker and easier to tow.

[mrktguy29]

Bosses who try to crush your soul by saying mean and hateful things.

I have the same problem, I think I could hav written the movie "Devil Wears Prada"

[teniworks]

I have the same problem, I think I could hav written the movie "Devil Wears Prada"

So what do you do about it? What does everyone else do about it? I'm almost at my wits end with this. I don't want to leave though because I could learn and do so much. It's like my boss keeps grinding and grinding away at me like it's her goal to tear away every ounce of my being everyday.

[WannaBrie]

teniworks, my boss at my first design job was like that. pure evil. I put up with it for over 3 years because I felt I had a lot to learn. Mostly what I learned is that some people should never be managers. Start sending out those resumes. Its not worth it. Seriously, every day spent under a boss that shouldn't be a boss is just going to end up costing you in other ways. If you're not happy, move on. You wouldn't stay in a relationship that made you miserable, would you? Its the same with a job. If its not working, move on.

[mrktguy29]

unless there is promise for the future, I would get out while I could.

[Two-Toe Tom]

if ur gonna quit, you should do it in style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5apMroe1ykI)

[mrktguy29]

That is SO me on my last day at my current position.

"FU, FU, FU and FU grandma"

[Two-Toe Tom]

oh man, even the grandma gets it? you must really hate that place

[mrktguy29]

I was refering to the video. No, I love my job considering my age and qualification (or the lack there of) My boss can be a devil sometimes, She resembles "Devil Wears Prada" in more then one way. We have learned that we have a "love-hate" relationship. I love to hate her, and she hates to love me, LOL, she is retiring in a year or so, so it is the only thing keeping me here, once she is gone, hopefully I go right up. That is my plan anyways, they can pay the part, or my part will go on its way.

[mrktguy29]

Ego-driven college professors who preach, not teach. If I wanted a preaching, I would go to church.

What are the FOUR GEOGRAPHIC characteristics of the Russian Relm?

Anyone?

I got a ZERO on an essay exam, I am curious what you all would have said.

[Virgo Nightingale]

Um... it's got mountains... it's got tundra... it's got forests... and it extends into the Arctic Circle.... :D

[Two-Toe Tom]

its really really big too

(that's what she said)

[morea]

Ego-driven college professors who preach, not teach. If I wanted a preaching, I would go to church.

What are the FOUR GEOGRAPHIC characteristics of the Russian Relm?

Anyone?

I got a ZERO on an essay exam, I am curious what you all would have said.


we aren't the ones taking the class. Certainly the exam was not issued before the material was either covered in the class or the assigned reading? If it was, you could likely contest the grade.

Hey, there are 30,722 threads on GDF, with more being created every day, and a lot of them are more cheerful than this one! Feel free to post in some of the others, too. Surrounding yourself with nothing but negativity is only going to keep you perpetually unhappy.

*encouraging pat on the back* :)

[mrktguy29]

"Wrong Four, Did you cover the material?"

I put Tundra, Taiga, Desert, Steppe, which are the FOUR main chanracteristic we covered in lecture.

AND, I made a 98% on the MC exam, did I cover the material...

This prof needs to get a life.

Thanks for the response!

[reuber1]

My ankle still hurts.

[tZ]

its always the teacher…

Personally, I have the come to the fact that if I do poorly or below par in a class or assignment its not because of the professor but, … because my performance was poor or below par,lol

Not that it ever is,lol – just saying

Although… I do think you learn best through failure so I guess I'm one of those guys,lol. In many ways I personally learn a lot more when I "fail" then when I succeed. Might be a twisted thought of mind but yeah…

[PrintDriver]

Those are 4 characteristics. Maybe not the main four? Was an assigned reading given to go along with the class? I had a college professor who loved to ask questions based only on what was read so you'd read the damn book. :D
I really liked that prof. She even graded on punctuation and grammar on timed exams. For an Art History course. She was tough. Not enough of them are these days.

[mrktguy29]

I wish I knew the right answer. He was "unable" to respond to my question. I foudn it hard to believe I only missed 1 on the multiple choice part of the exam, so this clearly shows I covered the required material. When I asked for clerification there was no response.

We get to do these lovely professor evaluations though... Let's just say I was very clear about how I felt. Four letter words and all!

[reuber1]

I've had enough of this crappy weather. This ice storm we have now is threatening to bring down some tree branches in front of the house, we sprung a leak indoors because of a small crack on a section of the roof where a thick section of ice piled up, which I got to promptly clear off. Seriously, bring back summer.

[mrktguy29]

I hear ya, there are about 500k people without power in Oklahoma last I heard. Our's flickers every now and then, close the office? Heck Ya!

[Typically]

people using 23 spot colors for a cover. 23 in just the cover!!!

[Virgo Nightingale]

Sounds expensive!! :D

[mrktguy29]

atleast there is a possibility of using spot colors. We just had the delima of matching a color and was a mess.

[Typically]

yea spot colors are great when you need them to show an exact color of something but not for a frickin cover (that's ugly as sin!) now when i try to print out of indy i get an error saying that there is over 27 spot colors and can't print! ugh and this is needs to go to the printer tomorrow.

i just told the guy that did the cover he needs to convert stuff to CMYK and he got all huffy. i don't know why he did it im PMS colors. he's been doing this longer than i have and should know better.

[budafist]

Just give him the 23 spot colour price and the CMYK price. He should calm down a bit after that and give you what you need.

[Typically]

haha well it's someone that works with the company so he wouldn't be paying for it. i just converted them to CMYK in indy so hopefully the color proofs come back decent. if not he is going to have a fun time reworking the cover =]

[CkretAjint]

:mad:

Pancaking bosses that hand you 50+ maps and directions with text changes for the third pancaking time in 2 days and says "You make these changes, I don't feel like doing them." And when I contest about doing them AGAIN, she says "It's your job to do what I don't wanna do, just do them."

Excuse me? Did my pancaking ears mislead me?!?!

:mad:

*heavy breathing*

[Virgo Nightingale]

Is this the same boss that overheard you were sending out resumes and expressed his wish for you to stay because you're such a valuable asset?

[CkretAjint]

Is this the same boss that overheard you were sending out resumes and expressed his wish for you to stay because you're such a valuable asset?

No. The resume boss was the VP of Marketing. This is just my overhead boss, Prepress Manager that I report to directly. The VP is 2 bosses above her (me, This boss-Prepress Manager, Creative Director, and then the VP of Marketing). And if you ask my honest opinion she doesn't even know how to do her job properly!!! Can't color manage worth beans, doesn't adjust/fix files properly, loves to band-aid files cause she doesnt have time to do it right, NEVER deletes extra colors/swatches in color palette... yah, she stinks at her job, IMHO...

[budafist]

People that stink at their job and also stink up the room suck.

[tZ]

Typically wrote:
people using 23 spot colors for a cover. 23 in just the cover!!!

expensive job.

People telling me I need to cram a bunch of useless text onto the front side of a 8 1/2 x 11. No one in their right mind would want to read that much text about a product. Its more a deturant then anything. Hell… I don't even want to read it and I have to,lol

[bejamshi]

people who tell you "you got ton of time to finish this"
also people who think they are designers.

[budafist]

What if it is tons?

I prefer that to "I need it done right now. (or yesterday)".

[budafist]

Firstly, I don't like Arial. Can you spot the second reason I don't like my coworker's design skills on this business card?
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2140/picture1mx2.png

[CkretAjint]

haha... Someone sat on the type! :lol:

[budafist]

Thing is, there was no reason (that I could see) why he sat on the type. There is plenty of space on this card. Dare I say that he did this because he thought it looked good?

[CkretAjint]

...umm, yeah.

85% vertical scale on 7 pt type ALWAYS looks good! :rolleyes:

[budafist]

:rolleyes:

[Two-Toe Tom]

maybe he had to squish it cuz the leading's so tight

[CkretAjint]

bwahahahaha... nice one TTT. I saw that too, but just shrugged it off. haha...

[John G]

i'm unleashing the fury...

OH DEAR GOD I HATE SPLASH PAGES, THIS SHOULD BE 3 INDEPENDENT SITES. I CAN'T GET THE NAVIGATION TO WORK COHESIVELY WITH ALL THE CRAP YOU LIKE ABOUT THE OLD SITE, LET ALONE MAKE THEM ALL "FIT TOGETHER" WHEN THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATE AND ALL THE WHILE THROWING IN SOME OTHER ELEMENT THAT COMPLETELY CLASHES WITH EVERY SINGLE FREAKING COLOR THAT ALREADY EXISTS. IT'S LIKE SHOVING A CUBE INTO A CIRCLE EXCEPT I CAN'T LOSE YOUR FRIGGIN' CORNERS.

OH GOD, OH SWEET JESUS.

[Typically]

Firstly, I don't like Arial. Can you spot the second reason I don't like my coworker's design skills on this business card?
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2140/picture1mx2.png

dont forget the 7.2 font tisk tisk give him a few raps on the knuckles with a wooden ruler =]

[Jackimalyn]

85%?????? DONT SQUISH TYPE!! Why dont people understand that??

[CkretAjint]

You tell them Jacki!!!! haha

If you have to squish or stretch the font, it's not the right font to be using. period, end of story. Find a new one!

[teniworks]

Things to squish...bread, grapes, gum, play-do, clay, and maybe certain types of glue after it is semi dry. But, squishing type earns stinky-yuck boy a timeout!

[John G]

90% arial black looks better than normal imo

try it before you hate

[WannaBrie]

Jerks my chain...when the frozen lunch package says "stir the potatoes and sauce seperately" but the potatoes and sauce are already mixed up in the package!

[budafist]

Jerks my chain...when the frozen lunch package says "stir the potatoes and sauce seperately" but the potatoes and sauce are already mixed up in the package!

That's why you don't follow the instructions :)

[WannaBrie]

Yeah, but they weren't supposed to be mixed. It was chicken fried steak with mashed potatoes. Also, the alleged meat did not taste right and the gravy was not good. I'm not getting that one again.

[Virgo Nightingale]

Probably would have tasted great if you'd just followed the directions! :p

[budafist]

I don't follow directions. Maybe that's why I can't bake! :D