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aries22
02-07-2007, 01:47 AM
Hello! I want to design a personal website to shocase my design protfolio but I'm not sure which program to use to design it. Should I use Adobe Dreamweaver or Adobe GoLive? I don't have much experience with web design...which is easier to work with? What are the differences/advantages between the 2? Any help would be appreciated!

Also, something I wanted to do is to make a video out of a bunch of snapshots from my digital camera. What program would I use to do that? Thanks again! :)

Ned
02-07-2007, 01:49 AM
Dreamweaver. Forget GoLive.

Dreamweaver is and always has been the industry standard for GUI website editors. The only reason Adobe GoLive exists is because Dreamweaver used to be Macromedia's product, and GoLive was created as a "competitive product" by Adobe. Since Adobe has bought Macromedia, they are no longer competitors.

budafist
02-07-2007, 01:51 AM
Dreamweaver.


WTF is GoLive?

Ned
02-07-2007, 01:53 AM
WTF is GoLive?

Not sure if you meant that scaracstically or not, Buda, but the edit of my post explains, if you didn't. If you did - remember, Scarcasm Doesn't Help! :D (am I getting points for this, UndressedMonster?)

aries22
02-07-2007, 02:02 AM
Dreamweaver. Forget GoLive.

Dreamweaver is and always has been the industry standard for GUI website editors. The only Adobe GoLive exists is because Dreamweaver used to be Macromedia's product, and GoLive was created as a "competitive product" by Adobe. Since Adobe has bought Macromedia, they are no longer competitors.

Thanks for the suggestion! Now I just have to figure out how to use it :o
I've used Frontpage before but I know that program probably wouldn't be used to produce a professional looking site.

aries22
02-07-2007, 02:03 AM
Dreamweaver.


WTF is GoLive?

Dreamweaver it is then!

Ned
02-07-2007, 02:11 AM
I've used Frontpage before but I know that program probably wouldn't be used to produce a professional looking site.

If you're needing to learn the basics of how to use the program, I would suggest either 1) a good book such as Macromedia Foundation's "Training from the Source" or the one from Lynda.com, or 2) a training DVD such that from Total Training, or 3) a weekend course at your local community college.

That's all depending on your budget. Option #1 is the cheapest. Option #2 and #3 will cost about the same, but a DVD you can keep and review at any time, whereas a short course will give you hands-on instruction which can be highly beneficial.

budafist
02-07-2007, 02:15 AM
I was only half joking about GoLive. I've never used it. I've heard of it maybe, but didn't know what it was used for. I did look it up on adobe.com though. There you go. I'm semi-educated then...

ecsyle
02-07-2007, 02:47 AM
Learn HTML and CSS. You don't need special software to do this :)

Ned
02-07-2007, 02:54 AM
Also, something I wanted to do is to make a video out of a bunch of snapshots from my digital camera. What program would I use to do that? Thanks again! :)

I missed this part... If it's from a still camera, you can just bring the stills into Macromedia/Adobe Flash to sequence a video out of it.

I could suggest other programs to do a better job, but you'd end up wanting flash anyways, to publish it for the web... So to save you money, I'll shut up. :D

aries22
02-07-2007, 02:55 AM
Learn HTML and CSS. You don't need special software to do this :)

Not sure if I have the patience. I can do some very basic coding but I always end up losing track and messing it all up. At least if the program writes the base code then I can keep better track of it and tweek it where I want :D
A friend of mine writes their code in Notepad...it's amazing really.

aries22
02-07-2007, 03:01 AM
I missed this part... If it's from a still camera, you can just bring the stills into Macromedia/Adobe Flash to sequence a video out of it.

I could suggest other programs to do a better job, but you'd end up wanting flash anyways, to publish it for the web... So to save you money, I'll shut up. :D

Ah, so Flash does this! Have you ever heard of a program called Proshow Gold, or Proshow Producer? It can make photo slide shows but I'm not sure if it can publish it to the web or if it's the same as video (like flash). Sounds like Flash would be better anyway.
Sorry for all the questions...I'm just getting into all the web stuff (big time late-comer). Thanks for all the great info, it's a big help!

ecsyle
02-07-2007, 03:04 AM
Not sure if I have the patience. I can do some very basic coding but I always end up losing track and messing it all up. At least if the program writes the base code then I can keep better track of it and tweek it where I want :D
A friend of mine writes their code in Notepad...it's amazing really.
Well, it's not programming. At all. Not in the slightest. And I recommend using something other than notepad. Use something that will highlight your code, like Textwrangler.

It's worth it to learn if you are going to be doing web design, or at least maintaining your own site.

aries22
02-07-2007, 03:09 AM
Well, it's not programming. At all. Not in the slightest. And I recommend using something other than notepad. Use something that will highlight your code, like Textwrangler.

It's worth it to learn if you are going to be doing web design, or at least maintaining your own site.

I agree...I do need to learn at least the basics. I think I'll go to the bookstore and check out if they have any good books about it.

aries22
02-07-2007, 03:10 AM
I missed this part... If it's from a still camera, you can just bring the stills into Macromedia/Adobe Flash to sequence a video out of it.

I could suggest other programs to do a better job, but you'd end up wanting flash anyways, to publish it for the web... So to save you money, I'll shut up. :D

Forgot to ask...is Adobe Premier similar to Flash or totally different?

Ned
02-07-2007, 03:28 AM
Totally different. Adobe Premiere is for Video Editing. Adobe's other program, After Effects, is for all the special effects and color keying that goes into video production. These are both professional level video editing programs.

Either would do a fantabulous job of making your video from stills, but as I say, you'll want it in Flash format to publish it for the web, and this is something that Flash can ultimately do on its own - so unless you want to start playing with real video, it's not worth the investment.

Mind you, After Effects can export directly to Flash...

Flash, by the way, is a vector animation program, and is ideal for a myriad of dynamic projects - for the web. It's not smooth video quality though, like After Effects and Premiere.

ecsyle
02-07-2007, 04:07 AM
I agree...I do need to learn at least the basics. I think I'll go to the bookstore and check out if they have any good books about it.
if you have any questions you can post here and we will do our best to help :)

Learning HTML will even make using Dreamweaver easier.

Ned
02-07-2007, 04:27 AM
Fo shizzle!

To anyone who's really serious about learning web design, I suggest to learn HTML/CSS/XHTML first, before any type of GUI editors. If you pick up well with HTML, you probably won't even want to bother learning Dreamweaver!

budafist
02-07-2007, 04:31 AM
Also, something I wanted to do is to make a video out of a bunch of snapshots from my digital camera. What program would I use to do that? Thanks again! :)

Yes, as Ned said, Flash should do the trick. My bf does stop motion animation (http://www.budafist.com/animation1.html) on our digital camera and then pieces all together in flash this way.

Ned
02-07-2007, 04:33 AM
Stop motion is fun. :D

I loved that Claymation craze that was coming back for a while... What happened to it?

mitzs
02-07-2007, 04:59 AM
I agree...I do need to learn at least the basics. I think I'll go to the bookstore and check out if they have any good books about it.

Aries, check out htmlgoodies site. The basicly have everything you need there to learn html, xhtml, css and so on. As a matter of fact, it is though them that I found this site! Now tell me they don't have good information. :D Am I gonna get in trouble for that plug?

Ned
02-07-2007, 05:02 AM
Am I gonna get in trouble for that plug?

'Prolly not. :D

mitzs
02-07-2007, 05:06 AM
Thanks for the suggestion! Now I just have to figure out how to use it :o
I've used Frontpage before but I know that program probably wouldn't be used to produce a professional looking site.

Most professionals can spot fp and I had someone tell me once that they wouldn't hire a certain person because their site was done in FP. Like you said, you seen the code. Then you know it can get really ugly if it decides to fight with itself.

When I was messing with it, I did all of mine in notepad. After seeing what a few fellow students went though with FP, I don't like something that can mess with my code. Although ecysle doesn't agree with this. I will have to pick his brain more on the matter.

Ned
02-07-2007, 05:17 AM
I think ecsyle would agree with that, actually. She suggested using a text editor that highlights code (I can't remember the one suggested, but I've used various text editors like that), rather than notepad, just so you can see the workings of the code better (plus you get codehints in those programs, if you need it). Those programs don't change your code at all. Only GUI editors like FrontPage or Dreamweaver would...

Personally, I'm perfectly happy with notepad, but I don't get lost that easily... Unless I'm in the city. :D

EC
02-07-2007, 05:31 AM
ecsyle is a boy. heehee.

And he would yes, recommend a text editor such as notepad in favor of FrontPage, I think it's safe to say that. :D

You can actually use Dreamweaver as a text editor -- complete with tabbing, color-coding, whathaveyou. That's what I do. I use it for file/site management and browser testing as well. Never "design view" (WYSIWYG), that's pure crap.

TopStyle is a good css editor, fraction of the price of DW, recommended by chris, another web guru on this board. http://www.newsgator.com/NGOLProduct.aspx?ProdID=TopStyle

TopStyle + HomeSite = Dreamweaver.

Ned
02-07-2007, 05:45 AM
ecsyle is a boy. heehee.

:o I was thinking about you, EC. :D

ecsyle
02-07-2007, 07:40 AM
... I learn something new about myself everyday.

Ned
02-07-2007, 08:21 AM
What you don't want to know, is how we found out!!

budafist
02-07-2007, 09:20 AM
Ned's been playing "Your Friendly Neigbourhood Peeping Tom" again.

Samy the owl
02-07-2007, 10:42 AM
thanks for that site mitzs, i wanted to learn HTML for quite sometime..gr8 site.

mitzs
02-07-2007, 06:30 PM
thanks for that site mitzs, i wanted to learn HTML for quite sometime..gr8 site.

Your welcome Sam, they also have several books out too. Cheapest place I've found is bookpool. However, I rather just print out a couple of sheets that I need since I just need to refresh.
You might want to read Why switch to xhtml.

http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/article.php/3616146

I also found it easier to take the basic tags and save them in a file by themselves. When I need to start something I just copy and paste. Lazy I know, but it saves a lot of time, not to mention typos.:)