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Silence04
02-07-2007, 06:30 PM
ok, so i'm trying to catch up from what i've missed in web design from the past 5 years...
I used to use Dreamweaver MX (the first one) But know that we've switched to Mac and are using the CS2 premium suite, that old pc software is no longer an option.
I know Dreamweaver is king for web design, but i'm only going to be doing simple html with little css. I thought GoLive would be fine, but i'm having a hard time grasping it... i don't know if it's because i've been out of web design for so long, or if it's because golive has a big learning curve...
i guess what i'm asking, is it worth me figuring out how to use GoLive CS2, or should i leave it and buy the newest dreamweaver?
Depends, can you learn GoLive faster than you can make 400 bucks? :D
DesignVHL
02-07-2007, 06:49 PM
I'd suggest Dreamweaver...imho still one of the best wysiwyg programs out there...i have played around in GL a bit and personally I like Dreamweaver better...besides, don't forget it is now owned by Adobe - it's possible that they may get rid of GL evenutally and just use DW...but don't quote me on that last one. :)
Mynock
02-07-2007, 06:54 PM
Honestly you don't need either one. All you need is notepad and somewhere to test it. I use GoLive as it is included in the Adobe package. An editor is nicer to organize the whole website, and some other features like telling you when links are broken/color coding. I and most of the web gurus write are own code and don't rely on Dreamweaver or GoLive to write the code for us. The most important tool you'll use is a book/website you learn to get back into this new fangled CSS thing they call it.
mitzs
02-07-2007, 06:55 PM
If your just going to use html and css, I say go with notepad. By the time you learn the software you could have it done.
DesignVHL
02-07-2007, 07:04 PM
true, notepad would definitely do the trick...but i (as do many other graphic designers) consider myself a very visual person, so regardless of what i am doing, i always like being able to switch back into design view, however I DO find myself coding by hand in the code editor more than drag/drop and using the DW components and whatnot.....basically it's to each his own concept - what works for one person may not work for another. I don't think it's too big a deal as to what your tools of choice are as long as the code isn't messy, it validates to standards, meets YOUR audience and browser standards!
chalsema
02-07-2007, 07:14 PM
Download visual web developer express for free: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
I like it better than notepad because it'll close tags, color code, etc. and you can switch to design view too.
DesignVHL
02-07-2007, 07:24 PM
That doesn't support Mac OS though. Here's is your best option for the mac if you do not want to use SimpleText, Dreamweaver or GoLive:
BBEDIT
http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.shtml
I can't believe I'm saying this.
Microsoft has a new html editor out and it seems like it doesn't suck. I just read a review on it at ThinkVitamin. http://www.thinkvitamin.com/reviews/dev/microsoft-expression-web-designer
^ sorry looks like it's not available for mac. Switch to PC and use MX. :p
DesignVHL
02-07-2007, 08:13 PM
I'm using MX still on my mac and have no problems :) If you plan on getting CS3 or upgrading your macromedia bundles I'd go in that direction...but like i said everyone has their own best practices in web design...u have to just do some trial and error and see what will work best for your needs. There are some great suggestions in here....
but if you went to a mac...why bother going back? Not to start a mac vs pc discussion but i do work on both - have been for years..mac at home pc at work...and damn i wish I could just work on my mac at home...overall MUCH less problems and issues...
:) hee hee...sorry if i opened a new can of worms. That topic has been beat to death anyways!
I would like to clarify that I was only kidding.
chris_bcn
02-07-2007, 10:42 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2006031,00.html
fan those flames
urstwile
02-08-2007, 02:35 AM
I'm not even gonna touch that, Chris. >Mac user and PC literate-ish
gokujou
02-08-2007, 09:26 PM
If you don't want to dish out for Dreamweaver, but you still want the code coloring, code hints, and etc. Aptana is a pretty good option. It is an open source web IDE and it runs pretty nice. Can help you code PHP and stuff as well. And did I mention it works just about every OS.
Silence04
02-08-2007, 11:06 PM
well i haven't hand coded anything since Prodigy BBS was replaced by the Internet... so that's way out of the question. LOL
i'm just gonna try learning Golive, it can't be completely horrid, especially since it is bundled with Photoshop Indesign and Illustrator... (well, at least i hope not)
in the mean time, who wants to take these sliced images and turn them into a full functional website for me?
lol