Want to snap someones neck for pleasure....

[sscheer]

I don't get like this too often, but I am so irritated and pissed off. There is this one job I applied for which is not graphic design related but there are opportunity for doing flyers, postcards, etc., for this company. And that sounds great. The thing is I would be doing customer service in an ADULT STORE, where the pay is incredibly low but I would be getting health insurance without them taking money out of my pay every week. So, yes, I am still applying, searching and getting friggin pissed off.

I should be somewhat happy about this position because some of it is graphic design related where I could get some good pieces in it, but on the other hand, I don't want to be doing this for free labor either. WTF should I do, just do it for the pieces for the portfolio etc? Now, there is opportunity for raises, but I have to work there a total of 3 months before I get the raise and the health.

I am so beside myself and just had to vent. So, how is everyone doing?

[uncle carbunkle]

staff discount?

>> rudie can't fail <<

[sscheer]

of course. Health bennifits also, raises are fairly easy, etc.

[defjoe]

Sarah... think of one thing. Can you actually show this stuff in your portfolio?

you have to think about that.

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[uncle carbunkle]

good point. i wasted almost a year with a company doing graphics that paid well, but would NOT get me another job... a wasted year in employability terms.

>> rudie can't fail <<

[plantationfarmer]

you could snap my neck if you want to...

:mushy sushy in coconut oil. yum yum:

[Mickey]

Ya! defjoe has a great point. You can work for the porn empire of the world but will you be willing to show that in your portfolio when you go to get that creative director position at Sears?

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[paulrandfan]

I don't know. I was educated by eastern europeans, and so my stuff was pretty racy, but I still had it in there. I also rotated it out when I interviewed at several conservative employers (i.e. large baptist church) Some of the more liberal employers got a kick out of it, and even though I wasn't hired they included in their follow up letter that I was great to interview and my work was smart and unique.

Jes

'To Design is much more than simply to assemble, to order, or even to edit; it is to add value and meaning, to illuminate, to simplify, to clarify, to modify, to dignify, to dramatize, to persuade, and perhaps even to amuse.' --Paul Rand

[BuckarooB]

Personally, I've always hated snapping necks whether professionally or 'for Pleasure'. It makes a very ugly sound, makes one feel a little sick inside (even when it is for Uncle Sam) and is something that simply cannot be undone.

I recommend snapping one's own knuckles. It's mighty satisfying!

Plus, many's the interviewer is hoping for a glance of ankle in a portfolio. It's important to provide that outlet for office-bound voyeurs - Do them a favor and spice up those portfolios. You'll get noticed, respected for your daring and garner a lot more job offers!

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[dakels]

even if you dont get portfolio pieces out of it, its a paycheck and expereince. If you can't fulfill those needs elsewhere at the moment, then like they say, love the one your with.

similar story: My friend is a really good flash designer. She works from home so certain options are limited. She has been doing alot of porn sites and getting paid very well to do it. She doesnt use them in her portfolio but she has made good money and also learned alot from it.

Doesnt really matter what other people think anyways. You're just a designer. Who do you think airbrushes all the nipples out of the sears catalog anyways?

p.s. send me samples!!! :P

Boobie Island and Busty!

[Keyare]

Sarah, I think it would be dangerous for you to work at an adult store.

Nevermind the experience you'd get, that's like dangling fresh meat in
a pool full of sharks.

There are other jobs.




Set the whales free!

[Drorain]

Sarah, been a while since we heard from you, though I don't think you'll like working in an adult store I just want for you to ask some questions of them (objectively.)

How serious are they for doing the brochures and flyers, are they going to pay you extra for them or just say its part of the job. That could mean designing for a rate thats laughable. your better than that, and yet I know the design jobs are few and far between, I was extremely lucky and happy to land this one at Vistaprint.

Also are they going to provide you with the software and hardware for this, or you doing the work at home (off the clock)

and finally, customer service sucks...retail sucks too. I've done both for 7 years, I think in an adult store it would make me feel even worse, for reasons that need not be said

- Everyday, all the time, without fail!

I agree with Keyare, your like baite for the sharks!

[plantationfarmer]

i think this is a relevent interesting article....

www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/cat_discussion.html (http://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/cat_discussion.html)

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[Magnus]

http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/yeah.gif

"...you should show only one design because that is what your paied to do....your not paied to let the client himself pick out which designs he likes best..."

- Zartan the Wise

[D-Zine]

I'm with Key and Benjo on this one Sarah.

I think you already know what you want to do...so why don't you ever trust your first instinct??

I say forget the job...you can get flyer and postcard jobs just about anywhere! They are the easiest design jobs to find aside from biz cards.

Boobie Island or Bust!

[sscheer]

I think it depends. I really don't see why you can't put something that is alittle risky in your portfolio. It would not be anything too too out there, but enough to just add alittle spice I guess.















defjoe said...
Sarah... think of one thing. Can you actually show this stuff in your portfolio?

you have to think about that.

[DeleteYourself]

Magnus makes a good point.

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Yes he does. Matter of fact that sums it up.

[sscheer]

I must of missed what Magnus said, sorry about that.

[plantationfarmer]

he didnt say anything... =)

:mushy sushy in coconut oil. yum yum:

[Holliday]

He didn't say anyth---?!? wha? PF, what he said was probably the most philosophical thing I've ever read on the internet. Ever. What the world needs is more people like him. Well done Mag. Well done.

[plantationfarmer]

sorry guys. whats so philisophical about that? =) i dunt see anything great about him sneakily pancaking the wall while our fellow gdf friend needs help to make a life changing, important, world shaking, divine decision...
what a minute----
next time Mag, do it loud... /emoticons/bootyshake.gif/emoticons/yeah.gif oohhhh yeeahhhh!

<lol times 23>

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[Magnus]

Sscheer said:


"I mustof missed what Magnus said, sorry about that."


Hunh?


http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/yeah.gif

"...you should show only one design because that is what your paied to do....your not paied to let the client himself pick out which designs he likes best..."

- Zartan the Wise

[plantationfarmer]

i'm impressed. one whole day and still going strong....

:mushy sushy in coconut oil. yum yum:

[defjoe]

Sarah...

as you have heard from many people in this forum... it is hard to get a job especially if your not as experienced. also we have talkede about how employers suck and how poeple suck. so you having something porn related in your portfolio might not turn you off to some potential employers (like me I see it as a plus) you do run a HIGH risk of not getting a job because of it. Why even take that chance?

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[sscheer]

I guess I am taking the risk because I am finding it quite difficult to get into the field, so whatever work I can get out of this would be some kind of experience. Now, I am still looking and applying, but I guess I am willing to take whatever I can get. I have been so tempted to apply to graphic design jobs as wanting to intern, and that just plan sucks but heard you get alot out of it. So, that might be my last resort.















defjoe said...
Sarah...

as you have heard from many people in this forum... it is hard to get a job especially if your not as experienced. also we have talkede about how employers suck and how poeple suck. so you having something porn related in your portfolio might not turn you off to some potential employers (like me I see it as a plus) you do run a HIGH risk of not getting a job because of it. Why even take that chance?

[defjoe]

Well you get to be around porn and that is a plus. :)

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[D-Zine]

Why would being an intern suck if you have no other experience noted? You can learn alot that way.

Boobie Island or Bust!

[defjoe]

0 $

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[Magnus]

Do both....be an intern and work at the porn place. If you like it, you and I can market the dildos that I make, and we can start our own company!

OR

You can work at the porn place, but to simulate the internship, you can work for sex instead of money!

F**k I'm awesome.

"...you should show only one design because that is what your paied to do....your not paied to let the client himself pick out which designs he likes best..."

- Zartan the Wise

[plantationfarmer]

mag, youre talking in the guy's point of view...

:mushy sushy in coconut oil. yum yum:

[Magnus]

Hey, I make good dildos though! Well, i'm 1 for 2....

"...you should show only one design because that is what your paied to do....your not paied to let the client himself pick out which designs he likes best..."

- Zartan the Wise

[D-Zine]

BWAHHHH hahahhaaa haa!!!!

;o)

Boobie Island or Bust!

[plantationfarmer]

i'm not convince about your homemade dildos...=)

:mushy sushy in coconut oil. yum yum:

[Magnus]

Ummmmm....not sure I want to prove it to you...haahhahahaha!

"...you should show only one design because that is what your paied to do....your not paied to let the client himself pick out which designs he likes best..."

- Zartan the Wise

[BuckarooB]

Well, I think we'll all take your word Mag. Right PlantationFarmer? We'll all take his word on it... Everybody!!!

We don't need no stinkin' proof... Aw hell, show us one Mag. Show us the good one at least!

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[D-Zine]

Mag speaks the truth...he does indeed!

Boobie Island or Bust!