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artilleryatx
02-28-2007, 08:21 AM
I was given a project today to design a "Modern" logo for my churches new series its called " His vision, Our purpose " so i just started some ideas and this what i have come up with so far its pretty basic im still not sure exactly what modern would be
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c223/circa1902/OVHP2.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c223/circa1902/OVHP.jpg
budafist
02-28-2007, 09:49 AM
Is that supposed to be big eye in the sky looking down on "purpose"? If so it's a bit scary and Big Brother-ish for my liking.
kevin107
02-28-2007, 02:26 PM
I would have to agree.. at first glance it seems ok if that were like a dove's wing or something, but looking closer it does resemble an eye.. and evil or angry one at that.
Jackimalyn
02-28-2007, 02:35 PM
I dont like how the words are grouped by color. It looks like "His Vision" and "Our" go together and "Purpose" is off by itself and somehow supposed to relate to the eye. I think theres a good concept here but it needs some reorganization to be executed effectively.
DesignStudio
02-28-2007, 03:01 PM
if it's an eye i agree, it's pretty "wrath of god" looking. it could however be a cool graphic if you altered the colors a bit. my first impression was that it was a sunrise or sunset, so if you made the top line a different color you could probably create that look. i also agree with jackimalyn, the color division in the text seems off.
and it's been a while since i was practicing, but i was raised catholic and if i'm not mistaken...doesn't the church already have a logo?
cornfed
02-28-2007, 03:10 PM
DesignStudio, baptist churches have individual logos as they act independently of one another.
I don't like the hierarchy of the words. I think in the baptist church, "His Vision" would take precedence over "Our Purpose." It's a humility issue being that His Vision defines Our Purpose. I don't know what your graphic element is. I didn't see the eye at first, I saw somebody swimming! I also think Mason would be a better font choice. But overall, it does have a church logo feel to it!
DesignStudio
02-28-2007, 03:16 PM
yeah i'm with ya cornfed, i know most churches have individual logos for their bullitins and signs and whatnot. it was just a joke- the whole "cross" thing. i know some people don't really joke about religion so i didn't spell it out to much cause i didn't want to offend anybody. i think it's probably ok with god though, you know he has a sense of humor- look at the duckbilled platypus.
artilleryatx
02-28-2007, 06:40 PM
yeah i really had no idea what to do so i just through something together i agree the eye is actually very creepy i think some type of hills or sunset would be alittle better and im on a windows pc right now and the colors look really off to me but on my mac they were not as harsh looking
thanks for the advice
cornfed
02-28-2007, 06:43 PM
Might I suggest a dove with an olive branch or something simple like that in a line art style. Something that conveys action but not the wrath of God himself coming down on you!
artilleryatx
02-28-2007, 07:42 PM
haha alright i will try more churchy symbols and i agree that his vision should be bigger
budafist
02-28-2007, 08:24 PM
Is this 1 specific church or a group of churches?
If it is a specific church, perhaps go to the site and take lots of photos to work with. Is there any stained glass or architecture that is specific to this church. That way when people see the logo, they can connect it to the house where God lives.
I'm all for making logos less generic and more company specific y'know?
JaCkinbOx
02-28-2007, 08:32 PM
The eye is scary. A few posts later, Jackimalyn shows up with her avatar. A disturbing resemblance, I've gotta say.
Jackimalyn
02-28-2007, 09:37 PM
between the logo and my taco eye! I used the taco to cover the creepyness of my avatar!
artilleryatx
02-28-2007, 11:27 PM
its one church and the website is completely useless they have no pictures what so ever worst web site ever !
budafist
03-01-2007, 12:40 AM
You can't go to the site to take pics?
artilleryatx
03-01-2007, 12:43 AM
i could if they had pictures www.fbcrr.org horrible website ugly
budafist
03-01-2007, 01:00 AM
haha, I see the misunderstanding now! I don't mean go to the web site, I mean go the church physical site - where they have weddings, mass and funerals.
...as in: 306 Round Rock Ave. Round Rock, Texas 78664
artilleryatx
03-01-2007, 01:18 AM
oooooo hahaha yeah i can do that too ! good point i messed around more with the cymbal and came up with a some what sun coming over a hill i think the messy ness and the clean of the type look really good together
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7656/74631410gr4.jpg
budafist
03-01-2007, 01:37 AM
I like this much better though I would move the illustration up a tad so it's not so close to Future and to the left a bit.
vtwin_gary
03-01-2007, 04:00 AM
is the chyurch going through "the purpose driven life"? ohh wait you changed purpose to future.
anyway we did the purpose driven life & it was really good.
i like the design better with the sun & not the eye.
raj69
03-01-2007, 09:37 AM
i am sorry, but its not looking as an eye.. but its looking as a peacock fether..
still u need get an exact shape of an eye
Raj
DesignStudio
03-01-2007, 12:17 PM
yeah i agree, better as a sun. i'd still reconsider your color division for your text though. perhaps make the "his vision" and the sun one color, and the "our future' one color. I think it reads funny/divided the way you have it. Personally i think maybe slightly more muted colors, something warm like you have is nice, but maybe just not so bright. Yellow isn't a great color on white for visability. This is just more of an opionion matter I guess, so if you have a reason for using the brighter colors, then do what you do.
artilleryatx
03-01-2007, 06:48 PM
yeah i will play with the color divison and the colors ... i have to figure out what windows pcs color profiles are cause when i go from my mac to windows the colors look really bright and harsh so i need to fix that thanks
Jackimalyn
03-01-2007, 07:24 PM
Its looking better, but I agree with DS, I think the yellow should be changed for the reasons mentioned. I don't like the brush stroke you used, though from Illy. I think it would be more effective if you freehanded it, but I guess the general public isnt used to the generic Illustrator brush stroke look. What do you guys think about that???
Also, the tension going on at the end of future:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/jackimalyn/74631410gr4copy.jpg
I think the space between the sun and the text needs to be balanced, too. Good progress!
DesignStudio
03-01-2007, 08:27 PM
nothing exact, but general rule of thumb is that colors appear slightly darker and richer on a mac than on a pc. so if you get it the brightest that you can stand on a mac, you're not going to like the way it looks on a pc.
artilleryatx
03-01-2007, 08:37 PM
i tried doing what you guys said about tthe color division it doesnt look very good i will post it
heres the color divison now the more i look it at it, it kinda grows on me
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5585/colordivwp9.jpg
i coudlnt upload the other one but here is the new color one
DesignStudio
03-01-2007, 08:53 PM
well we don't say these comments just to hear ourselves talk. i think it's looking alot better. since you've got a nature thing happening, maybe consider making the "our future" a shade of green, so that you have like a green earth, yellow sky think happening. for visability, i'd still encourage you to darken the yellow or add a touch of orange too.
whats the concept?- the sun rising…
The concept is unclear.
What does the sun have to do vision or the future?
What is this lecture series about?- how is this conveyed through your graphic represenation?
In regards to the composition. The logo is reading our future- his vision. Is that the way it is meant to read? If not might I suggest emphasising the His vision over the our future or moving the his vision below the our future typography. Right now the our future is the focal point due to the size contrast of the type above which tends to make me read it before anything else. Even though, the his vision is above it.
artilleryatx
03-02-2007, 12:12 AM
im having a meeting with him tomorrow to talk about everything and i will show him this and i will take everything you guys have said into consideration thanks
heitern
03-07-2007, 05:08 PM
maybe try to simplyfy the sun and the hills. its a lot of lines. http://www.idrewgraphic.com/gdfsuggestion.png
I dont know.. just a suggestion. hope this helps.
the tension going on at the end of future
Thats a very...... arcane statement.
Jackimalyn
03-07-2007, 05:37 PM
lol...