a new poster...

[anderson]

this one hasn't gone to print yet... rip away. ;)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/ando3000/Posters/PRN-0330.jpg

[Takes2ToTricycle]

what are the dimensions of this? interesting size.

as for comments, maybe a little too much splatter brush around "tri-state killing spree, & 60 cent assassins".

Is there better wording for "go to a college fun for terry's children"? sounds a little vague

[John G]

^^agree

A font that doesn't get so thin on the thin parts would probably make it be read better. The current font works for the title, but it gets kinda hard to make out smaller than that (there's just such a huge contrast between the font's thick and thin parts, lessing that contrast would probably make it easier to read at a glance).

Unless it's a promo for you, I'd take out the Anderson Design logo. It's just not something you do. aka if you want some promo, make a poster for yourself, don't make a paying (or non paying) client pay/sacrifice space for your promo on their promo.

[Ned]

^^agree
Unless it's a promo for you, I'd take out the Anderson Design logo. It's just not something you do. aka if you want some promo, make a poster for yourself, don't make a paying (or non paying) client pay/sacrifice space for your promo on their promo.
Generally, I would agree, but if this is a discounted or pro-bono piece, then placing self-promotion in the design is expected, and may have been worked out in the contract. As this is a charitable show, I suspect that's the case.

I've given huge discounts on pieces so that I could add my own promotional, if I know the client's distribution is going to be good. They pay for printing and distribution, so it's a good deal on both sides. I also do pro-bono work once a year on average, and my company is always listed as a major sponsor on all print material.

Of course, if you're being compensated at market value for this piece, then definitely leave out the Anderson Design!!

[budafist]

Good points raised here. Watch your leading. It's a bit all over the place. For example, Saturday is much to close the text below it.

[anderson]

what are the dimensions of this? interesting size.

4.25x14, half of a legal sized paper, two per sheet.

Is there better wording for "go to a college fun for terry's children"? sounds a little vague

I was wondering about this too... maybe just "proceeds to benefit a college fund..." not sure?


Unless it's a promo for you, I'd take out the Anderson Design logo. It's just not something you do. aka if you want some promo, make a poster for yourself, don't make a paying (or non paying) client pay/sacrifice space for your promo on their promo.

See this raises a very good question, if I were a fine artists I'd slap my signature on painting. Correct? Paying or not?

As this poster stands it was done pro-bono but I typically slap my logo on all of my posters. (if i remember)

[budafist]

See this raises a very good question, if I were a fine artists I'd slap my signature on painting. Correct? Paying or not?

As this poster stands it was done pro-bono but I typically slap my logo on all of my posters. (if i remember)

I can see what you're trying to get at, but as a painter and a designer, I see my paintings as an extension of myself. Which is why I sign my paintings. Your designs are an extension of the branding of your client's product. Thus why I wouldn't put my own branding on someone else's branding.

What if Nike ads had a logo of their advertising agency on the bottom of it? It would distract from Nike's strong message wouldn't it?

[anderson]

I can see what you're trying to get at, but as a painter and a designer, I see my paintings as an extension of myself. Which is why I sign my paintings. Your designs are an extension of the branding of your client's product. Thus why I wouldn't put my own branding on someone else's branding.

What if Nike ads had a logo of their advertising agency on the bottom of it? It would distract from Nike's strong message wouldn't it?

I guess the same could be said with my posters. The artistic nature of all the posters are up to me... I mean, I sorta gotta keep to "genre" of the show but when it comes down to it the posters are my art with someones brand slapped on it.

But on the other hand, I totally see your point about the nike ad.

[Ned]

I'm sorry to be harsh, Anderson, but I will have to put it bluntly. If you're putting your brand on all the posters you create, that is just plain wrong, and as a business man, I would NEVER pay you if you did that to me.

If you think you're an "art-eest", and that what you are creating is "art", then you are in the wrong line of work. A designer's job is to communicate, not to muddle in the arts. Our creativity is to sell a message, not to be put in a gallery.

There is NO ROOM FOR EGO in the world of graphic design. You can have your ego, or you can do your job and get paid for it. Your choice.

[Samakimoto Graphics]

...What if Nike ads had a logo of their advertising agency on the bottom of it? It would distract from Nike's strong message wouldn't it?

I agree with the pointers. What I have done in the past is add in posters about a 6-8 point text with "Design by:------" and included phone contacts and email in vertically palced text along the left bottom edge...with the permission of the client. Some are happy to allow it others aren't...

[budafist]

Actually, that's a good idea Sama. If someone really wants to know who the designer is, 6-8 pt size text will tell them that, but it won't compete with your client's own branding at all. Well done. 2 brownie points Sama!

[Samakimoto Graphics]

I also make sure it's a light weight font, but never my logo, never...

The downside is if the design is wack they know where not to go ;)

[BJMRGTIVR6]

A co-worker slaps his logo on every postcard/poster/etc. that he does. I think it makes it look a bit "Amateur"

I understnad the pro-bono work and throwing it there and maybe a fine print thing but to throw the logo on pieces seems like you haven't had enough exposure and are trying to get it in any way possible.

But, back on track, I think the poster looks like it compliments your style. I do agree with the leading in some parts and the splotches might be in teh way, as well as the font choice for the smaller type. Something bugs be about the "vertical bar" (can't remember what it is called) between teh date and time. I think a bullet would be better as the font seems tall and that looks more like an I or another letter there than a hash.

[anderson]

I'm sorry to be harsh, Anderson, but I will have to put it bluntly. If you're putting your brand on all the posters you create, that is just plain wrong, and as a business man, I would NEVER pay you if you did that to me.

If you think you're an "art-eest", and that what you are creating is "art", then you are in the wrong line of work. A designer's job is to communicate, not to muddle in the arts. Our creativity is to sell a message, not to be put in a gallery.

There is NO ROOM FOR EGO in the world of graphic design. You can have your ego, or you can do your job and get paid for it. Your choice.

I'm not disagreeing with you wholly. As I know when I can and when I can't put my logo branding on projects.

And if you look at rock art posters from now or from back in the day when rock art was just forming it's not about your run of the mill graphic design it IS ART.

It's not called "Rock Graphic Design" it's called "Rock Art" done in an artist fashion. Sure graphic designers got into it cause it's fun and it's not your run of the mill newspaper ad.

If I were throwing up an ad or campaign of some sort for a more professional you wouldn't see my logo on there. But as it stand this Art form which is Rock Art will have a logo on it. (the size of said logo is determined by whether or not the client paid for it.)

[MikeTheVike]

I'm sorry to be harsh, Anderson, but I will have to put it bluntly. If you're putting your brand on all the posters you create, that is just plain wrong, and as a business man, I would NEVER pay you if you did that to me.

If you think you're an "art-eest", and that what you are creating is "art", then you are in the wrong line of work. A designer's job is to communicate, not to muddle in the arts. Our creativity is to sell a message, not to be put in a gallery.

There is NO ROOM FOR EGO in the world of graphic design. You can have your ego, or you can do your job and get paid for it. Your choice.

I think there is plenty of "design" work that could be considered art. But I think we should keep this argument in a different thread.

I like the poster! I designed my invitation to my art exhibit back when I was in school in the same fashion. One thing that ate at me after they were printed and still does eat at me to this day is the couple spots where the white worn parts covered up a couple numbers in a way that that they were not very legible. I kind of see that in the "60". i think it looks good otherwise.

As far as your logo being on there, if that was somethign that was ok'd by the client then I think it's fine, otherwise I would leave it off.

[Typically]

I've worked at a club doing flyers, posters yadayada and never even thought about putting my logo or contact info on anything. Now you are doing stuff for free so i can and do see your point but i just don't agree with it. A logo can be a bit to obtrusive

[anderson]

I think we're all arguing points of "art" which is different to every person who views/does/enjoys it.

There is a time to put the logo/info on there is a time not to, a time to laugh a time to cry, I swear it's not too late.... (high five to anyone who chuckles at that reference) Sorry, I drifted...

If I worked for a poster making firm, I guess I wouldn't put my logo on there because I would be working/representing that firm. When I worked in the newspaper industry I didn't put my logo or the work places logo in the ads I created because that would be just silly.

But this rock art poster gig I do on my own time is my "art" and I enjoy it immensly and I put my stamp on my art just like any other artist does.

The logo in this particular piece is a little big but as it was done for free and the client didn't care it's staying.

[1ooScreamingTrees]

But this rock art poster gig I do on my own time is my "art" and I enjoy it immensly and I put my stamp on my art

Not to perpetuate this endless argument but um...the logo says anderson design on it - not art.

on a side note - have you guys ever noticed how most incredible traditional artists are awful graphic designers?

our lack of a visually literate culture is awesome.

cough.

[budafist]

Anderson, can you point me in the direction of a famous bit of rock art that has the designer's logo on it? I can't think of any.

[anderson]

here is a drive by truckers poster with a link to the artist website in the design.

http://gigposters.com/poster/78289_Drive-by_Truckers.html

[anderson]

how about a flogging molly poster?

http://gigposters.com/poster/78286_Flogging_Molly.html

[anderson]

fuzy buinnies... (not famous but still has a signature in the poster._

http://gigposters.com/poster/78225_Fuzzy_Buddies.html

[anderson]

Hella

http://gigposters.com/poster/78224_Hella.html

(faint under the "person" is a web address.)

[anderson]

Underground Kings

http://gigposters.com/poster/78217_Ugk.html

[anderson]

Neko Case

http://gigposters.com/poster/78152_Neko_Case.html

[anderson]

AFI

http://gigposters.com/poster/78149_Afi.html

[budafist]

I see some of those posters have the designer as well as the printer's name on it. These better be pro-bono work!