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Renton
04-09-2007, 05:36 PM
So, lately, I've had a few sleepless nights where I couldn't go to sleep because I was stressed out or I was just randomly worrying about work. So, last night, I went to sleep at about 3 in the morning. At about 5am, I started having strange nightmares about work. I started seeing shapes and Adobe Illustrator menu bars. I kid you not. It wasn't the type of imaginary imaging that would be considered "inspiration". It was more of a panick attack and a paranoid hallucination. Shapes were being drawn, moved around, resized, and everything. It felt as if an unknown voice was telling me to move this, resize that, change this color, etc, etc. I don't think I was controlling either, it felt like I was being controlled. I had a panick attack and I couldn't tell if I had woken up or I was still sleeping.

Being so scared shitless, I couldn't go back to sleep when I did realize I was awake. I had work at 9 in the morning and had set my alarm to wake me up at 8. I wanted to squeeze out that extra 1-2 hours of sleep, but I failed miserably. It felt like late summer, the blankets felt too hot to sleep in. I was tossing and turning. I had this numb, tingly feeling in my arms and legs as if I had too much caffeine. Before I knew it, it was 6 AM already. By that time, I've already had enough, and decided I needed more than just the weekend to recharge. Just moments ago, I had called in sick at work. It's a very small office (like...4-6 people working there reguarly). Being that all of us wear different hats in this start-up company. I was worried that things won't get done. I'm no workaholic by any means, but just worrying about it freaks me out.

The 9-10 (or sometimes even 11-12) hour days are constant and I have to handle software QA, customer service (phone and on field tech support), researching SEO, on top of my design duties. I feel as if I'm breaking down really badly. I've been out of school since 2005 and working at design jobs for a couple small companies for a year a piece (counting my current job). Never have I felt such anxiety, stress, and getting so mentally exhausted. I've never lost this much sleep before with any job. Maybe once or twice here and there working other jobs throughout my life. I don't know, the long hours and crap is really getting to me. I thought since I'm 25, I'm freakin' invincible to mental and physical fatigue, but I totally am not.

So I decided to just take a day off. It'll help a bit. I think the art director I work with (who's 4-5 years younger than I am) has a thicker skin when it comes to this tiny little company. Bare in mind, this person got the title because this person was the first employee of the company hired to do design work. Parts of her attitude at times has gotten me into this mental state. Stern. I mean, who the hell tells you that you can't listen to music while you work because it's a distraction? Vocally expressing opinions or anything needs to be written and proven with facts. Rubbing in peoples' faces, "I know that's how companies do it, I did my research." whenever it came to establishing the work environment. It's more like what she think is right based on "research" rather than what the people who work here actually want.

Even though she insists that I ask questions, everytime I do, I get this slight chunkling, sarcastic "omg, you're such an idiot" tone when she responds. I've told her that discourages me from asking anything when she brings up that I don't ask for something as much as I should. I don't know. She uses the same tone when she tells me something, in that sorta "duh" tone. There are days where I can work with the person and everything's peachy-keen. Then there's the 2-3 days out of the week where I freakin' hate her guts. The other few (including the owner of the company) are some of the coolest people I've worked with. Unfortunately, none of my projects involves any of them and my schedule/workload, obviously has to revolve around the art director. That tiny little loft that we work in is getting awfully cramped.

There's a lot more I can elaborate about this person, but I really have mixed feelings about working with her. There's just a lot of things about her attitude that's abrasive and too overly blunt. When she asks for something, it sounds more like a demand than a simple request. The owner of the company is equally demanding, but he has a softer way of requesting something to get done and is more sympathetic. When someone approaches me like that with something that's troublesome to do, it's fine because of the gentler tone. I always feel as if I have to torture myself over every project I do. Just because she puts in an insane amount of hours into her work, I feel obligated to do the same, but I can't. I'd probably get burnt out if I kept forcing every single thing I do and squeeze every drop of creativity I have left.

I'm not hourly, BTW. It's gotten to a point where I'm considering quitting in August to go back to school to learn digital audio recording, taking classes that I never had the opportunity to take in art school, and tapping into other venues instead of putting up with that bullshit. The money just doesn't seem like it's worth it anymore if I'm always coming home depressed, mentally drained, and I have panic episodes like the one I had this morning. I'm the type who needs breaks. An hour or two shorter work days. Call me lazy if you want, but I don't know how I can survive in this business.

I'm a pretty emotional person, so I think stuff like this is going to royally kick my ass early on. I would have gone to work today, but then I'd be just chugging along, and I'd probably feel worse off than I did when I woke up. I'm just not in the mood to be in the office today. If you'll excuse me, I have some sleep to catch up on and a bit of work to do so I'm not just slacking off being "sick", even if it's a tiny bit of work. It's hard to get my mind off work when I'm not in the office, when I'm at home, or out with my friends. I really don't know why. A couple of my friends think I'm just being too hard on myself. Maybe I am or maybe I'm not. I really don't know. I just know I'm going to need some time to regroup.

I feel kinda bad that I'm mostly lurking around here and the only posts I've contributed were bitch fests. -_- Anyway, thanks for reading.

Jackimalyn
04-09-2007, 06:11 PM
been there. im sorry everythings so crappy. sounds like you need a new job. They shouldnt all be so crazy and I cant imagine working for that art director. (dont worry about using the GDF to vent... we've all been there and can definalely sympathize!)

Enjoy your day off

jimking
04-09-2007, 06:16 PM
When the hours never end and the nightmares start, it might be time to move on. Been there.

Renton
04-09-2007, 06:24 PM
The thing is, it took me a good 5 months to find work again last year. Man, that was a fun, but not so fun being frustrated with finding work. This is the first start-up company I've ever worked for. Heh, start-ups are the only ones who give newbs like me a fighting chance. It did come at a price, but I did learn a lot from it. I never really did any UI design until I got this job and I got to learn a bit more about web design and a bit more motion graphics since I'm pretty green with that (since I was primarily a print guy).

I don't know. There's a production artist job for an anime company called Viz. I think I'll just give that one a shot just because it would be a God send to work in the anime industry (man I love that stuff, well, not enough that I'm considered "otaku", but at least pretty damn up to date on it). The thing is, I really want to see this company succeed, but I don't wanna sacrifice too much of myself to make it happen. The owner's a good guy and I wish him all the success in the world. The potential of that success was the only thing that kept me going, until I recently when I felt that even if the company did succeed, it would probably come at the cost of my own sanity and mental well being.

jessicam
04-09-2007, 06:34 PM
This is how I felt before I lost my job. I'm exponentially happier not spending my days with people who made me feel stupid, and that nothing I did was ever good enough. I would definitely suggest that it may be time to move on.

Good luck. :)

Riya
04-09-2007, 06:39 PM
It's a lot easier searching for a job while you have a job. Just the confidence boost it gives you makes the difference. From what you say, things aren't going to get any better at your current job, so start looking. Go for the anime job and anything else that comes up.

I used to have dreams like that (except mine didn't lead to panic attacks) in college when I was staying up all night trying to meet deadlines for my design classes as well as the ones for my English degree. Thats when I knew it was time to skip a class or two and dissappear for a while.

Hang in there, and vent away.

Danger_Mouse
04-09-2007, 07:21 PM
Dam, that's quite a situation. I feel for ya, I really do. Having a supervisor like that I can relate to...different problems, but still the same *******.

Sounds like you tried to fix the problem by already talking to supervisor. Seems like she has a pompous attitude. If its getting to you that much, I would complain higher up. But get your resume ready, and start looking.

Also, be wary of posting "work bitching" in the forums. Make sure you don;t leave clues as to who you are and where you work. I use to take a very active part in this forum and took the time once to work bitch (justifiably so). After the rant I looked for new work, and posted submitted samples my new job in here to be critiqued. Well my rat faced supervisor I had btiched about was lurking behind in my footsteps....following me in this forum. Then reporting to management and some other employees (this tells you how really unprofessional the chump was). Everyone work bitches, I got caught. Just as if someone followed me home and eavedropped. I laugh now, cuz everyone knows and thinks he is a turd as well.

My mistake.... I left my email addy in my profile which identified me. Long story short, I go to sign my new contract with fantastic new job tomorrow morning I been working on since January. To top it off, all I hear now are other people bitching about the same ex-boss (he left company shortly after, but made sure to tarnish my name before HE left). There is more to this story (i wont bore you with details)..... but I am getting a kick of what people really thought of him now that he is gone.

My point is....BE CAREFUL what you post in here. If your supervisor has any clue you post here alot, it can come back to you.
Watch what you say. Everyone in here are generally good people, just be careful, you never know who is watching.

Renton
04-09-2007, 07:53 PM
Man, you guys are too awesome with understanding where I'm at. I was getting ready to brace myself to hear something I didn't wanna hear like some form of a verbal ass whuppin' with a doseage of reality check. LOL.

I had one boss (who's gone now) tell me one time, "If you were to go to a big company, you'd be eaten alive." Thanks for the tip, mister. ;_;

Man, they sure give you a short amount of time to edit your posts. I guess it's already too late if I wanted to make it more anonymous. I didn't say any names or what industry it was though. *crosses fingers* :P

Danger_Mouse
04-09-2007, 08:01 PM
Eaten alive or no. They saw SOMETHING in you to hire you in the first place. If you are more junior than your supervisor, instead of making you feel small and insignificant about any short comings, they should encourage and support you, after all you are all suppose to be on the same side.

I am assuming of course you are not an idiot. haha

Renton
04-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Ever gotten broken-record advice that doesn't quite pertain to you as much as it does for them, but they decide to add, "I'm just trying to help you." or "I'm just trying to protect you." From what? The angry fist of God? That also makes me feel quite inferior. I admit, I have my faults. However, there's a certain smugness that comes from that kind of "advice". Oh ho, I helped someone today, hooray for me. I excel in management.

morea
04-09-2007, 08:30 PM
this type of thing is what motivated me to leave a steady job and take a chance elsewhere. I mean, when you're thinking to yourself, "boy, if I drove into that tree I could spend my day at the hospital instead of at work" you know it's time for a change.

I worked through panic attacks and worse until I finally gave myself an ulcer. I was overworked and underappreciated and finally I told myself that I didn't want to spend the rest of my life that way. The thing is, they will totally use you up and then toss you aside if you let them. So don't!

I'd recommend starting a job search now. It is easier to find a new job if you already have one (doesn't seem fair, I know!) and another job offer can also give you some leverage in renegotiating your current position.

Good luck... I hope that things improve for you!

Danger_Mouse
04-09-2007, 08:36 PM
absolutely

Drorain
04-09-2007, 09:07 PM
Viz man...doooooo ittt!

get out of that environment as fast as you can otherwise, or you'll burn out and hate the industry. Not all jobs are crap ones, you'll find your happy place

Drorain
04-09-2007, 09:13 PM
All companies are different I worked for a ‘big company’ that is a booming online printer right now, and our department was the company sweetheart for a few months since we were on the forefront of their newest offerings. Within a year a team of 11 new hire designers worked it’s way down to 2 and eventually they were let go. It was great being so anonymous at the end though, we put in our 40 hours and interviewed whenever we wanted. No one checked in on us…we were even told it was okay to look for our next jobs. Not cause we were being fired, but they learned what they thought they needed to know, and we served our purpose. It was a mutual choice to move on.

I'm a lot happier as an in houser now, and I’ve had huge growth learning here, and a lot of artistic freedom with a manager that’s completely awesome and supportive.

Know what you mean about the AD though, they have their days, specially in the old job

Renton
04-09-2007, 09:46 PM
Viz man...doooooo ittt!

Ah, it would be nice to look at what I did during the day at a company like that, "Yea, I had to do production work on a Bleach manga cover with Ichigo and Rukia on it. Then I worked on some Naruto stuff."

Now that I look at their site, they're bringing out Shakugan no Shana. Oh man, I MUST APPLY NOW.

Drorain
04-09-2007, 09:54 PM
i wish there was a Boston Based manga company! oh well Anime Boston will just have to be my fix

budafist
04-09-2007, 11:25 PM
Reminds me of this girl who was in the year above me at design school. She worked for a few months at an animation company in Japan as her internship but since the movie hadn't been released yet, she wasn't allowed to show any of her work at the end of year exhibition. The markers could view it for grading, but not the general public.

I guess she would just have to hope any potential employers present at the graduating show could excuse this?

CamarotaDesign
04-10-2007, 12:33 AM
You need to sit down and tell them whats going on. Don't try and really emphasize that it's causing you mental problems, because they'll just think your crazy. But let them know that you need a different workflow, and be direct about what is wrong, be firm, make eye contact, don't be overdramatic, conduct it very businesslike. (I know thats hard for emotional people, I'm italian and we tend to be that way too)

You've got to respect yourself and know that you deserve better or you will keep running into these situations over and over.

Good luck, searching for design jobs in the Bay Area is hard as hell. I know.

Navian
04-10-2007, 06:33 PM
You need to sit down and tell them whats going on. Don't try and really emphasize that it's causing you mental problems, because they'll just think your crazy. But let them know that you need a different workflow, and be direct about what is wrong, be firm, make eye contact, don't be overdramatic, conduct it very businesslike. (I know thats hard for emotional people, I'm italian and we tend to be that way too)

You've got to respect yourself and know that you deserve better or you will keep running into these situations over and over.

Good luck, searching for design jobs in the Bay Area is hard as hell. I know.

To add ^

Be as professional as you can. Don't raise your voice as if you are angry. Stay as calm and relaxed but yet stirn as you can. Make a list, prepair yourself, do your homework ;) jot down some dates (month and year if applicable) that some of these issues had occured on.

Renton
04-11-2007, 01:07 AM
Hey, thanks guys. I think I was just worrying way too much about everything going on at work, that's why the job just seemed so damn stressful than it should be. With the unneccessary stress, it ended up snowballing, and then caused me to lose my creative energy in an instant. Help is going to get hired eventually (not for GD, but for just other stuff that we're currently wearing hats for).

The AD actually didn't have too much of the usual attitude when we spoke. It wasn't as bad as I thought. I guess I just have a problem with subconciously thinking about work when I don't need to or when it's not neccessary. It's the first time I've wigged out that much and I didn't know what I was truly wigging out about and overwhelmed myself with thinking I need to get a million things done by the end of the week. Welp. Back to work as usual. I'll just take it step by step and see how it goes.

budafist
04-11-2007, 01:59 AM
Just taking things 1 job at a time helps. Clear your desk so you can only see the 1 job at hand. Your mind is less distracted by all the other jobs that you have coming up.

Also, try not to care so much! It's only a job. We don't have the life/death stress ER doctors do. We make things pretty and communicate messages (that half the time aren't even that important). Try and enjoy the work.

Deep breath.