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budafist
04-09-2007, 10:56 PM
So I keep hearing about this wonderful book - Stop Stealing Sheep so I just bought it used off Amazon for $1.59. Shipping cost $11! Oh well. Still a bargain.
I guess I'm posting this here to remind people that design books can be expensive, but if you don't mind secondhand (I sure don't) then it's a steal!
Silence04
04-09-2007, 11:06 PM
friends don't let friends buy $100 books...
budafist
04-09-2007, 11:34 PM
I can't say I've ever spent $100+ for a book. There are books that are that price that I would love, but not love enough to fork over that cash!
Molinto
04-10-2007, 08:11 AM
I've read that book...taught me more about typography than 3 years at uni!
Definately worth the money!
Anyone else have the compulsion to just buy (annd read of course) tons and tons of design books/magazines all the time? I think I would choose a book over food for the week!
Never spent £100 though...I think £50 was about the most!
budafist
04-10-2007, 10:41 AM
I would never choose a book over food. The idea is insane. :D
I've read that book...taught me more about typography than 3 years at uni!
Definately worth the money!
Anyone else have the compulsion to just buy (annd read of course) tons and tons of design books/magazines all the time? I think I would choose a book over food for the week!
Never spent £100 though...I think £50 was about the most!
Amazon is not my friend. However, that being said, I have a pretty decent personal library of art and design books. Two new ones came yesterday...about Illuminated Manuscripts.
frailer
04-10-2007, 11:32 AM
Apropos of Amazon, I'm a huge fan of <www.powells.com> [in Portland, Oregon]. They have the BEST range of books, really well priced, great website. Don't be fooled by their "used" label on some. They're usually just out of current edition and "new" anyway. Sorry, just had to give'em a plug. Leave Amazon for dead any day.
Molinto
04-10-2007, 11:41 AM
In all the bookshops (even some biggish ones) round near me the art/design section contains about 10 books and they are all *teach yourself....whatever* and then about 5 books on van gogh or monet!
Nothing with any depth....grrrr have to stick with amazon im afriad...oh and the occasional trip to borders...not a fan of thier premium prices but they have a starbucks??? Im so torn!!
1ooScreamingTrees
04-11-2007, 03:57 PM
Stealing sheep is a great book. Not as great if you are already familiar with intermediate level typography, but it still has plenty of information written in a VERY fun to read style. If you already have typography basics and beyond covered, I believe this is the text that has the red column to the right of every other page which includes more advanced concepts.
That's what makes the book so great - it's not bone dry like Robert Bringhurst's Elements of Typographic Style (amazing book, but cumbersome to read through at times.)
I have a book report on a design book due tommorow. I think I'm going to reread thinking with type because it's such a quick read. Meeg's History of Graphic Design is on the list too haha - 500+ pages vs. 80? hmmm.
Mynock
04-11-2007, 04:05 PM
I had to buy it for a typography class in college. I don't know if I read it then, but I've read it twice since then. I wish I had the fonts that are in the book so I could use some of them, but we only have the cd full of cheapo knock off fonts.
Handgloves
Get it know it well ;)
BJMRGTIVR6
04-11-2007, 07:24 PM
Interesting I have heard about this book before and tried looking/flipping through tthe few pages on Amazon but it didn't impress me. maybe I should order it from B&N and can return if not too good (for me that is).
And I would not buy books over food, i like the idea of perusing the bookstore with a few mags and books every once and a while.
1ooScreamingTrees
04-12-2007, 04:50 AM
The quality of the book completely depends on your level of experience with typography.
If you've been in the field for 10+ years and are good at what you do, there isn't much here for you. If you are a student it's a must have in my opinion - no matter how large your typographic ego soars.
If anything else, you'll have a book with a great name.
Although I fail to understand slightly how it evolved from "Anyone who would steal sheep would letterspace black letter" into "...would letterspace lowercase"
The blackletter statement is much bolder in my opinion. But I guess they had to modernize it!
fredrich
04-20-2007, 06:48 PM
In all the bookshops (even some biggish ones) round near me the art/design section contains about 10 books and they are all *teach yourself....whatever* and then about 5 books on van gogh or monet!
Nothing with any depth....grrrr have to stick with amazon im afriad...oh and the occasional trip to borders...not a fan of thier premium prices but they have a starbucks??? Im so torn!!
I use play.com. I normally order DVDs there, but I discovered that they had the books I wanted aswell. It's a little bit cheaper at Amazon, but play.com don't charge for shipping.
Ben Kessler
04-20-2007, 07:58 PM
I'm a compulsive online buyer of books and CDs, so I'll have to check out play.com. Thanks, Fredrich.
EmerginT
04-20-2007, 08:20 PM
I am better off reading the books at the bookstore where i can sit and concentrate - Once i actually buy them - i usually don't have them with me when i need them or never get around to reading them.
I do have a really good Illustrator book though - I want to say its Classroom in a book - but i have to check.
I could use a good Photoshop book. Maybe i will just read them all at the bookstore - only problem is when you need it when you are at the computer.
Maybe i will bring them to work! Hmmm... big ideas!
Mynock
04-20-2007, 08:29 PM
I am better off reading the books at the bookstore where i can sit and concentrate - Once i actually buy them - i usually don't have them with me when i need them or never get around to reading them.
I do have a really good Illustrator book though - I want to say its Classroom in a book - but i have to check.
I could use a good Photoshop book. Maybe i will just read them all at the bookstore - only problem is when you need it when you are at the computer.
Maybe i will bring them to work! Hmmm... big ideas!That's called a library you can take the books with you, and as long as you return them on time you don't have to pay.
EmerginT
04-21-2007, 09:26 AM
I haven't seen many good computer books at the library - they are always old.
budafist
04-22-2007, 06:34 AM
Many of the good design/art books get stolen. Especially the graffiti/aerosol art books. Sucks because it ruins the fun for everyone else when that happens and libraries become hesitant to buy those books again.
1ooScreamingTrees
04-25-2007, 11:06 PM
I just got done reading "A Type Primer" by John Kale - great for anyone beginning in typography. Not so great for anyone who knows a lot about type - but that goes for many great type books.
1ooScreamingTrees
04-25-2007, 11:07 PM
I just got done reading "A Type Primer" by John Kale - great for anyone beginning in typography. Not so great for anyone who knows a lot about type - but that goes for many great type books.
It emphasizes a study of typography through hand production - tracing paper, drawing, positioning xerox copies, etc, as opposed to the computer in many instances. Some great excercises are in here.
budafist
04-25-2007, 11:46 PM
I haven't received my book yet (2 weeks) so I had a look at their delivery dates:
Order Placed: April 9, 2007
Delivery estimate: May 10, 2007 - June 8, 2007
Damn...it takes 1-2 months to mail a book? Oh well...
frailer
04-26-2007, 09:00 AM
budafist, I think it's a trade-off. Believe Amazon source their second-hand stuff, or much of it, from a network of 2nd hand dealers. Nothing wrong in that. Just that it's kinda double chain stuff. Price is right. Just gotta wear the time lag. Long live the net, though, cos a lot of these books would never connect with new owners. Betcha find when it comes in it's from Jenny's used Books, Little Rock Arkansas, or somewhere like that.
budafist
04-26-2007, 10:04 AM
Yeah, well no hurry, I got a degree and a couple of years of work without this book, what's another month or so? :)
fredrich
04-26-2007, 11:07 AM
I've ordered this aswell. Hoping to get it this or the next week.
fredrich
04-28-2007, 01:43 PM
Got mine today. Looking forward to read it.