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Tsmalldon
04-25-2007, 02:35 AM
So what is everyones Dream Job?

Mine is working for a movie studio, doing the promotional graphics.
No luck so far

Trevor

bazzle83
04-25-2007, 02:50 AM
When it comes to Graphic Design, i'd like to have a job for a high profile studio, so i'd get to work on massive brands and advertising campaigns.

I can imagine walking down a busy city street and seeing a massive hoarding with my design on it, or always seeing a logo for a huge company that I've designed.

Yeah that would be the cream.

budafist
04-25-2007, 03:35 AM
I want to be a children's book illustrator full time and working from home.

DesignStudio
04-25-2007, 04:09 AM
budafist, you stole mine. I don't need to be the next Suess, I'd settle for being the next Silverstien. I'm already working on the hairstyle.

budafist
04-25-2007, 04:34 AM
That's ok DS, there's enough work for the both of us :)

frankster
04-25-2007, 05:06 AM
I'd settle for being the next Silverstien.

I love Runny Babbit!

Schmitty
04-25-2007, 05:18 AM
Working in the surfing industry for a big name brand, designing clothing, adverts, etc.

And of course to run my own firm.

imann08
04-25-2007, 05:39 AM
It would be owning my own company and getting big name clients. I'd like to be able to do everything in house from photography to printing.

Samakimoto Graphics
04-25-2007, 05:43 AM
I want to be a children's book illustrator full time and working from home.

I used to want that. It's not as economically viable over here.:)

I plan to get a Masters in Development Studies as I have so many ideas that can make economic change in Africa, yet no doors are open towards this...that in a couple of years.

DesignStudio
04-25-2007, 07:41 AM
I love Runny Babbit!

My dad used to read us stories like that when I was a kid, like the pree little thigs. It always made us laugh, and I thought I should write a book like that. I guess you snooze you looze.

Drazan
04-25-2007, 11:55 AM
Have my novel/series and all static/multimedia creations purchased by a publisher for world wide distro. Thusly getting a big advance and nice royalty checks - then sell the movie rights and become the next J.K. Rowling.

Not a far dream considering THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Clear-Horizon-JoEllen-Drazan/dp/193246106X/ref=sr_1_15/002-0818316-4979206) went world wide and is only a small press book.

The novel is nearly done on first draft. Based on a short story that was published in the small press book. Now for the technical revisions. heh.

foxo
04-25-2007, 01:01 PM
My dream job is working for a top secret anti-terrorism unit in the government. My keen attention to detail and an arsenal of hand to hand combat moves would see me rise through the ranks of the ATU with a series of succesfull missions in espionage all over the globe. It would be exactly one week after another C.O. (covert operation) in Prague that an un-paralleled and un-natural threat would be made on the entire world. An underground terrorist force claiming to be the Dooms Day Deliverers (3D), had built a bomb more powerful than anything the world had ever seen.. I can't go into details of how this was possible... its all highly classified. However, it would be my JOB to track down these 3D hoodlums and bring them to justice. Along with saving the world from the afformentioned Dooms Day Deliverers's Device (4D).

Thats it...


hey they're called 'dream jobs' for a reason.

quiltfacearmy
04-25-2007, 01:05 PM
I would like to specialize in concert posters or skateboard decks they allows for more creative freedom.

Mynock
04-25-2007, 01:12 PM
Professional Bra Fitter

reuber1
04-25-2007, 01:22 PM
Honestly, I would love to have all the free time and indispensable income in the world to just create forever.

But for a job-job, honestly, I dunno. :confused:

foxo
04-25-2007, 01:26 PM
Professional Bra Fitter


oooh... but what about all those bra fititngs that aren't the cool kind? you know what im talkin' bout! VV :eek:

foxo
04-25-2007, 01:27 PM
I DID NOT mean to type "fititngs" I swear to God... but im loving that i did..

benjo
04-25-2007, 01:32 PM
Working for a multibrand company ie. Procter and Gamble, General Motors, Kellogg’s etc. and headlining there entire marketing department. I want all creative control! Imagine the kind of campaigns your execute at this level with multiple brands?

idaho
04-25-2007, 01:48 PM
I want to be a "fluffer" for lesbian porn!

PrintDriver
04-25-2007, 01:58 PM
I often wonder about people's aspirations to work 'in the movie industry' or for a 'large brand'. While there may be in-house marketing departments, a lot of that work subs out to massive (or sometimes not so massive) design studios. I don't think I've ever worked on a gig where the "huge corporation" didn't purchase the gig through a production house of some kind.

Maybe you are misdirecting your dreams.

My dream is to siesta in my boat with a fishing pole on a lake.

benjo
04-25-2007, 02:14 PM
Not really print driver. Although a lot of the work is sent out to Agencies it's really up to "management" to do as they please.

The main reason why work is jobbed out is cause of the redundant work that corporate designers get stuck with and the “work load” is to heavy so hey we need this now let’s send it to “so and so” to get some good creative work.

But most places are run inefficiently, are the people in charge even designers? Do they know how to work with creative people or do they assign you a “10 minute” job that takes 3 hours.

You can’t really manage creatives unless you understand how they work. Be it copywriters, illustrators or designers.

I have a lot of faith in myself and not only will I get my goals but I’ll be dam good when I get there.

mojoprime
04-25-2007, 02:40 PM
honestly, if i could change a few things, i'd sort of be happy with what i have. in-house, great benefits, stable. great people, great company, great mission. very small. i've been up and down the food chain, and am little bit lower than i have been in the past, but also much happier. less stress.

like drazen, i'd love to write novels; i started out in high school thinking i'd be a writer and sort of sideways got into design.

i seem to have lost all of my stories. i know i put them somewhere in the back of my mind, but i can't find the stack they're in. i'll find it eventually; there's just so much clutter.

if i could do that, or this, or even make a decent wage and teach, i think that would be great. i know a lot of designers say the mantra of "those who can't, teach," but honestly, i always thought it was a noble calling. and in our state, to get on with state government and the retirement health-care benefits and pension -- that would be great. hard to find those two things anymore.

then, i could siesta on my boat with a fishing pole. if i knew how to fish. ;)

maybe just siesta with a drink and an umbrella, on the sand.

Silence04
04-25-2007, 02:58 PM
I've always dreamed of running my own Design and Marketing Firm.
That or either, becoming a Freelance product packaging and display designer for large brands (or at least the companies that will dish out the cash)...

ultimate goal, having to only work a few weeks out of the year to live comfortably.

foxo
04-25-2007, 02:59 PM
I want to be a "fluffer" for lesbian porn!
:eek:
C'mon Idaho.. out of the gutter mate!

Virgo Nightingale
04-25-2007, 03:48 PM
Doing graphics/layout for a scentific magazine, especially if it covers lots of astronomy. Not a stiff, boring journal that's only read by scientists and professors (unless they're hiring me to make it pretty).

I'd also love to specialize in album art and/or promotional material for rock musicians or jam bands.

balou
04-25-2007, 03:57 PM
Honestly? Housewife & volunteer.

idaho
04-25-2007, 04:02 PM
:eek:
C'mon Idaho.. out of the gutter mate!

The majority of the members on here who are familiar with me and my posts are use to my jokes and I'm use to theirs (and that was tame compared to what tothers post). If I have offended you a truely appologize.

Mods: If my post was offensive I appologize. Please remove it. It was not meant to hurt Foxo's feelings.

As for a dream job, I'm pretty much in it. I work in a large corporate marketing department doing just about anything we want. We've found that it is not only cheaper but you get a ot more "bang for your buck" by keeping things inhouse. All agencies do is screw their customers.

Jeff Fisher LogoMotives
04-25-2007, 04:03 PM
I guess I'm doing it now - working from wherever I may be at the time, dealing with the clients I choose and writing books/articles.

- J.

BJMRGTIVR6
04-25-2007, 04:05 PM
Though I do love design, I also love photography. I think it would be nice to shoot photos worldwide and design a calendar and sell the caldenar and the image rights to said photos.

jessicam
04-25-2007, 04:11 PM
Honestly, I would love to have all the free time and indispensable income in the world to just create forever.

But for a job-job, honestly, I dunno. :confused:

Me too. Stay home, make art and silly thigns in Flash for fun, quilt with ridiculously nice fabric, and hang out with my kid. I'd probably homeschool, too. So I guess my dream job is housewife with expensive hobbies. :D

PrintDriver
04-25-2007, 04:39 PM
The main reason why work is jobbed out is cause of the redundant work that corporate designers get stuck with and the “work load” is to heavy so hey we need this now let’s send it to “so and so” to get some good creative work.
Well, if you're sure about that, who am I to argue...:D

LeftBrain Artist
04-25-2007, 06:22 PM
The majority of the members on here who are familiar with me and my posts are use to my jokes and I'm use to theirs (and that was tame compared to what tothers post). If I have offended you a truely appologize.

I was pretty offended too. My dream job is to be the fifth member of SG-1, the "off-world sexual relations" expert. This crass "fluffing" of a select group of individuals (lesbians) smacks of predjudice to "sexperts" like myself. For shame idaho. For shame.

All agencies do is screw their customers.

I wish! Some of my customers are pretty hot!

All corporations do is screw their employees.

D-Frag
04-25-2007, 06:38 PM
I would love to be able to do photography for a living....

taking pics of naked ladies

LeftBrain Artist
04-25-2007, 08:05 PM
As for a dream job, I'm pretty much in it. I work in a large corporate marketing department doing just about anything we want. We've found that it is not only cheaper but you get a ot more "bang for your buck" by keeping things inhouse. All agencies do is screw their customers.

Actually, you have to compare apples to apples - when you compare cost of in-house jobs to agency jobs, do you factor in overhead (property taxes, taxes on employees, time spent by corporate accounting and management on your department, etc.). If you're just looking at the hourly rate of an in-house employee compared to the hourly rate of an itinerant service, of course the rate is going to be much cheaper.

Claiming that agencies screw their customers because their hourly rate is much higher than a worker's hourly salary is like claiming the final price of a car is a rip-off because it accounts for the cost of advertising, sales, mangagement, accounting for all companies involved in all the components of the car. All you should have to pay for is the parts and the time spent on tasks directly related to making the car. Everything else is "cost of doing business" that should be picked up by the businesses and not passed along to the consumer.

As much as some would like to believe that, it just isn't so. All businesses account for all their expenses when determining an hourly service rate or price of a widget. Then the games begin - and numbers are shifted to areas that are deemed more likely to be accepted by the customer. Do you honestly think people would buy a car with a line item: advertising - $5,000.00? Or a tube of toothpaste that specifies 50% of its price being related to packaging design and production?

Or a person working at McDonalds who makes and sells 100 hamburgers in an hour - they don't make 100 dollars an hour, but thats roughly what you're paying.

In an in-house design agency of, lets say 5 people, what would the real yearly cost of that be compared to an external agency? Feel free to amend the numbers any way you see fit - the costs might be:

Employee base salaries (average 40K): 200K
Employee extras (Taxes, Insurance, 401K, etc.): 70K
Time spent by management, sales, accounting, on in-house agency: 30K
Building expenses (maintenance and upkeep, cleaning the bathroom, cafeteria upkeep, property taxes etc) - this is a shared expense and represents the portion that 5 employees share in a 2 milion dollar facility: 5K
Gas & Electric, Telephone, Internet, Water & Sewer, Garbage pickup - the bills: 10K
Hardware and Software updates, maintenance and replacement: 5K

Anyways, you get the idea. On average, a design based service business should be charging an hourly rate of 3x the average hourly wage of the people working there. Commonly, agency rates range from $60 to $150 per hour, which is consistent with average annual salaries of 30K to 85K, after you factor in taxes, insurance, 401K, etc. Which is usually right in line with corporate in-house wages - although corporate culture tends to place an emphasis on tying salaries to education, seniority rather than productivity and quality.

Sorry to go on at lenght about this idaho, but you got me thinking. I get the impression that a lot of our clients tend to agree with you, that agencies are a rip off - I would have to agree with you that many of them are (so are many corporations!), but there are a handful of honest people in agencies and corporations alike that keep higher moral standards - I like to think we're some of those people. Unfortunately the liars and cheats are rewarded and elected to leadership roles and public office.

DesignStudio
04-25-2007, 09:16 PM
I guess I'm doing it now...

Well rub it in why don't you Jeff. You could at least pretend like you're a little unhappy like the rest of us. Geez. ;)

Actually, seriously it's nice to see someone (and in our profession) who's "living their dream." It's reassuring to know that it's a reality that's out there to shoot for. It seems like anymore our generation's new version of the American dream is to hatch some get rich quick scheme and retire at 28. People rarely aspire to work an honest job they enjoy for a good wage into their 60's; something that would have been the dream for most of my dad's generation.

foxo
04-26-2007, 12:58 AM
Idaho, I was just having a poke man, dont take me so seriously! Besides if you truelly want to be a fluffer in les-porn then go forth and fluff it up my friend... fluff it up!

frankster
04-26-2007, 01:11 AM
if you truelly want to be a fluffer in les-porn then go forth and fluff it up my friend... fluff it up!

If Idaho is a man he'll have to do a spot of cross dressing to get the job I would have thought. I wonder if it's legal to sex discriminate in this case.

foxo
04-26-2007, 01:38 AM
Its probably one of few cases that sex discrimitation is ok! "your honour the plaintif was ill-equiped to fluff us, because he's a man!"

budafist
04-26-2007, 01:45 AM
I'd never want to work at a huge corporate. Too much politics and butt kissing!