Logo Suggestions

[tsnikkisa]

I am designing a logo for a restaurant anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks,

[kevincdg]

I'm not really getting a feel for anything with them. Have you done sketches, or sketched out more ideas?

What is the purpose of the checkers across the top/bottom? They're interfering with the picture.

Is that a clipart picture, or did you do it yourself?

What are the black bars around the name for? It makes the name look like a simple version of the airplane wings you get on a plane ride.

I'd examine questions like that and go back to the drawing board. To me, it seems like you just took a piece of clip art and put the name under it. But, then again, I'm not that good either, so take my advice as a grain of salt. :P

[Virgo Nightingale]

Honestly, these look very very generic – like from any local pizzeria take out menu. Put some thought into what exactly makes this restaurant unique, what would make you want to eat there, why should you eat here instead of the place down the street.... Concentrate on these ideas and brainstorm some concepts that will help this restaurant stand out from all the other pizzerias in the neighborhood.

[tsnikkisa]

I am going to be designing something different and will post it tomorrow.

[carter the artist]

Is that really the name of the company? it's like a bad run on sentence.

[Craig B]

definitely sketch out as many ideas on paper before you even go the computer. If you want some good feedback, post the sketches and we'll try to help point you in the right direction.

[budafist]

Too busy! I feel like instead of displaying 1 concept with this logo, you've just gone and "decorated" some text. Dots, squiggly lines, checkers and lines do not help make a logo clear nor communicate anything important.

Think of a concept first. Then figure out the simplest most striking way to portray it.

[tsnikkisa]

Thanks guys for the feedback. I talked to the restaurant and they wanted a Italy and United States Flag on each side and the c in the cicle. But I did it in a triangle because I had that shape left from the way I placed the flags. Yes that is the name of the restaurant. The also wanted a banner with their name in it. Any suggestions.

[*the girl* ryan]

try taking the triangle of red out, enlarge the C and juxtapose the flag poles coming through it.
Is the restaurant called Classic? If so, give the word Classic more visual interest and put Italian American Rest underneath it

[BJMRGTIVR6]

Hopefully they know their food better.
and should it be "Italian-American" restaurant? as in the restuarant serves Italian-American cuisine? the hyphenated word describes the word restaurant?

Also, I am not feeling this logo either. The first looked like clipart off a pizza box. the second, though, still looks like clipart. It is too much. What would they put on a sign? I think maybe a nice font with an icon/symbol to the side might be nice.

also the flags: italian is shaded whereas the us flag does not look shaded.

[Jackimalyn]

why did they hire you? sounds like they could have crapped that out themselves.

I hate it when clients are soooo specific in describing a logo they want you to "design" that breaks every design standard and does the oppositte of whats visually appealing. Do some sketches and present them to them. No banners, and no single lettes nested inside geometric shapes. Make sure they know that you are the designer, and they can have confidence that you will produce a successful logo. Dont tell them their ideas suck (even thoug hthey do) Just make some suggestions.

[Jackimalyn]

also, keep in mind, a logo has to be versitile. Has to be able to be blown up on a bilboard (or banner) and shrunk down on a business card.

[Virgo Nightingale]

Clip art does not a logo make.

I wouldn't go to a restaurant that had this logo unless I was in the mood for cheap cliche Italian food like pasta with marinara sauce. I wouldn't even order the meatballs in this place. It honestly looks cheap.

If they insist on the flags and the banners, at least illustrate them from scratch and stylize them so they don't look so off-the-shelf and literal.

[tsnikkisa]

Ok so client wants this damn layout so I tweak it up. I want to make the c stand out more. Also do you think the red of the banner blends in to much?
Finally I'll saw these flags aren't clip art I did them in illustrator. Some said about styling them a little bit any ideas?

Thanks,

[viince]

If you must stick with this layout.. then the banner is way too huge. And your flags need a lot of work. I think the flags will work and look better if they were flat. So the banner can remain wavy and fluid. You should sketch out variations of this layout and go from there.

[seamas]

If this is in the USA, the US flag should be on the right, the flag's right.
(In other words the US flag should be on the viewer's left).

You don't want the American Legion and the Betsy Ross foundation picketing this place!

[CkretAjint]

Wow, all that red is seriously hurting my eyes. No offence, but it appears to be very Mircosoft Word clipart-esc....

[budafist]

When I see the new flag logo, I certainly don't associate it with a restaurant or food.

Flags are very loaded symbols. Far too politically loaded for some pasta and pizza I think.

Also, seeing flags in a design reminds me of this thread (http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23691).

Originally Posted by Wiki
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard.

The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic organizations.

Don't worry, this rule doesn't seem to be enforced by anyone. It's a code rather than law anyway.