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bfl2005
08-17-2007, 09:04 PM
A former client of mine sent me a sketch drawing for me to vectorize. I vectorized it exactly as it was drawn in the sketch. The client came back and didn't like the design so asked for changes to the original. I made many, many changes of the design over a few days. I even made my own changes to the design to add my own style to it. After working on the design for a week the client rejected it. I asked to be paid for my time even though they didn't like it but the client refused. The job was initially suppose to be a simple and plain vectorizing job but somehow it turned into a custom design. So when the client refused to pay, I asked them if I could hold the rights to the design and sell it to recoup my costs. The client agreed to that.

A month or so later the client contacted me stating that I was selling their image, the one they didn't pay for, and I wasn't suppose to be doing that. I told them what happened, I guess it somehow slipped their mind, that they never did pay for it and that they agreed to letting me hold it and sell it. They argued with me and were pretty sure they paid for it. But I knew they didn't pay for it because that was the first time I was stiffed on design work. I even forwarded emails from them stating this.

Now I find out that the client is selling this design as a printed image in their business to their customers. I never released to them the production files since they did not pay for it, but they have a jpg of the design. They must of paid for someone else to vectorize my finalized design that I never got paid for and they are now selling it as their own as a printed product.

#1- do they have the rights to do this? I feel as though the design is my original artwork since it is nothing like the original sketch since so many changes were made. Also, I never got paid for the work.
#2- Do I hold the copyright to this design and have the right to send them a cease and desist to using my design.
#3- the company that now vectorized the design, can they be held liable for the infringement?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!

Drazan
08-17-2007, 09:37 PM
Yes you do have some grounding for investigation. However, we can't really tell you what's right or wrong on a forum.

What you really need to do is consult a lawyer over the matter and see where it lies.

Also you do own the copyright only if the design is completely original, else you can only go after them for an "unpaid bill". If the design you did was based off a jpg that they gave you to start from then it looks like that is what they may have done to a previous designer.

Really, talk to a lawyer - some even answer your questions without a retainer. Then you also have to ask yourself if the expense of going to court is worth it.

morea
08-17-2007, 11:21 PM
read over the sticky thread here: http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14271

hope it helps some.

Drazan
08-18-2007, 12:25 AM
Morea - that link is outdated.

here's the proper link. (http://designorati.com/articles/t1/graphic-design/654/coping-with-clients-who-use-your-concept-design-without-paying.php)

budafist
08-18-2007, 01:05 AM
Good idea about consulting a lawyer.

I would invoice them again for the unpaid bill with a letter about the situation.

PrintDriver
08-18-2007, 01:25 AM
Do you have a contract?
If not, a lawyer may not even be able to help you with the bill.

budafist
08-18-2007, 03:15 AM
Even if you don't have a contract, it doesn't mean that people can steal from you. You get work done, you use it, you pay for it.

Jams
08-23-2007, 04:18 AM
I had a client like this as well. I agree with the other posts here, check with a lawyer if you think it's worth it. Remember, the lawyer's going to take time to bring her/him up to speed, and of course they'll cost money.

I know first hand it may be a tough pill to swallow, but you'll want to weigh the additional time and money costs you're going to incur and decide if it's worth it to pursue. In my case, the client owed my several thousand so I went after her. When it was all said and done, I got about 1/2 of what I asked for. Sorry this happened to you, best of luck.
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