Publisher!!!

[DonnaL]

Why must customers insist on using Microsoft Publisher to create their stuff???

It makes it soooo difficult to print especially when we print direct to plate ARGGHHH

Anyone else print direct to plate? (Brisque is our equipment).

[defjoe]

it's a horrid program and for total amatuers.

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[D-Zine]

The printer we use where I work is direct to plate.....but I DO NOT send Pub files....haha! I feel yer pain!

Welcome to the GDF!

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Who says doodling isn't constructive?!

Why did MS even make that thing and who is !@$#@ing bying it?

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'Adventure, Excitement, A Jedi craves not these things.'
'Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they.'

[defjoe]

Amatuers

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[Mickey]

The print shop I used to work at charged $80 prefilight fee on any Pub file that came in the door!

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[PrintDriver]

Ha ha Mickey.
Now that's a 'bonehead tax'!
Hmmm... (looking at pricing schedule on bulletin board...)

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

[3howards]

people buy it 'cause it gives the impression that it is a professional desktop publishing software, just look at the name. but, it's use should be limited to the office secretary who's printing out newsletters and flyers with her inkjet. i worked at a print shop for a while and had customers that were notorious for crap like that. i had this long process to get the files ready to send to film. we didn't have direct-to-plate capabilities in our plant, so i never dealt with that. good luck.

[3howards]

to give you guys an idea of how stupid people are ... we once had a guy send us a file for a media giude, he was the athletic director at a local college. anyway, i got the work form which stated that it was camera-ready. inserted the disk he sent and to my utterly disgusted surprise, it was an excel file! he set up each page as a worksheet! i had to convert the file to pdf and export as eps files and go in and manually convert everything to black, and convert all the images to grayscale. then i had to redo the cover layout which was going to run as 4-color. from there, i set up 2 different docs in quark and started placing. arghhhh! all that time, and the print shop got nothing from it 'cause it was 'camera-ready'. right.

'Camera-ready' LOL!

You know it's funny cause I don't ever use this term. I though it was a weird term to begin with. I say ready for output. Files Collected or flight check but I have never used camera ready.

Suprisingly when I speak to non-graphic artist I constantly hear this term. What camera are they refering to the plate burner?

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'Adventure, Excitement, A Jedi craves not these things.'
'Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they.'

[PrintDriver]

You aren't old enough to use Camera Ready Benjo. LOL.
I've received real camera ready art, even recently, and the client wonders why I charge em to create a vector file from it...

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

So what is camera ready?

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'Adventure, Excitement, A Jedi craves not these things.'
'Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they.'

[PrintDriver]

Official definition (lifted from Ask)

In desktop publishing, camera-ready refers to the final state of a publication before it is printed. Historically, the term has meant that the copy is ready to be photographed and turned into plates for offset printing. Increasingly, however, it is possible to print directly from the electronic version, either by sending it to a high-resolution laser printer or to a special device that can generate plates directly from electronic elements rather than from photographs. In these cases, therefore, camera-ready means merely that the document is ready to be printed.
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I've actually recently received stat camera black and white logos. We still get them from some of the marketing firms. Fine for burning to film for silkscreen. Sux for cut vinyl.

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

Post Edited (PrintDriver) : 4/2/2004 11:19:24 PM GMT

[3howards]

very rarely, and i stress rarely, is work camera-ready when submitted to a printer, i know from experience. ad agencies could be the worse than someone who's new to the field.

[Ryan8720]

My parents use Publisher, but they just print one copy and then go to Kinkos. LOL

I have pagemaker, but have never used it. My InDesign trial ran out before I even go to use it.

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[defjoe]

stat camera art? I didn't even know there was some still around. Next your gonna tell me that you had seperations in Rubies. ;)

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[PrintDriver]

Funny you should mention that. We do use rubylith if the job is too fast to wait for film and the design is simple enough to cut on the vinyl plotter. It's not as good as film though. Gawd that stuff sux to weed!

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

[D-Zine]

Wow I haven't used a camera stat or rubylith since college...hehe! But hey..atleast I know how if I EVER need to right?! LOL!

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Who says doodling isn't constructive?!

Dam! I guess I'm new school. LOL! I've been using computers period since 1997. This was also the year I stated collage. High school to me seemed cloudy (maybe it was the weed).

Camera ready? LOL!

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'Adventure, Excitement, A Jedi craves not these things.'
'Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they.'

[aprilcartergrant]

It's like someone trying to sell a computer like this: 'includes Paint AND PrintShop!'

Hey, Benjo, I was thinking about you this weekend. Don't get too excited... I live near this golf store called Benjo's Golf, and every time I passed it for the past few months, I was like, 'Geez, that's a weird name, Benjo, but I feel like it's familiar.' It didn't click until I passed the store this weekend that it's because of you.

Oh, our Benjo.

+++ april carter +++

Coming soon: www.sugarsock.com

[aprilcartergrant]

When I first got into this biz, we did camera-ready art (real camera-ready art) all the time...

To demonstrate how things have changed, someone in my office brought me a sheet of logos (camera-ready lino paper or something) from an organization we belong too, and I laughed.

+++ april carter +++

Coming soon: www.sugarsock.com

Hey April so um... is Benjo's Golf a good looking place. ;)

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'Adventure, Excitement, A Jedi craves not these things.'
'Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they.'

[defjoe]

in this other building that we use at time to mount and laminate stuff there is an endless amount of old school materials like line tape, rubies, a waxer, lettroset type. it's fun to look at and brings back mammories.

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[PrintDriver]

mammories of the mammalian nature?
=;O

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

[defjoe]

(.)(.)

'I will become the most powerful Jedi ever!'

[PrintDriver]

ROFL!

Specialization is for insects...

R.H.

[D-Zine]

ROFLMFAO!! It's amazing what we can make from characters isn't it! haha! of course I don't know any..anything I DO know now, I learned from Joe's post like the above! I'm totally innocent! *smilies innocently* ;o)

We have the old drafting/layout tables, waxers (even a box of never opened wax) that old nasty border tape and ya know...my office back in the day at this place was the dark room - before the digital cams came out and they had to develop all their own stuff - which explains why I don't have a freakin window :o(

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Who says doodling isn't constructive?!

[DonnaL]

D-Zine said...
We have the old drafting/layout tables, waxers (even a box of never opened wax) that old nasty border tape and ya know...my office back in the day at this place was the dark room - before the digital cams came out and they had to develop all their own stuff - which explains why I don't have a freakin window :o(
Are you sure you're not my old Manager? LOL! You just described -to a T- her office! It was once a dark room (with no windows), that she now uses as her office, the old waxer, and a box of wax unopened, old border tape, etc. I had to read your profile to make sure you weren't who I thought you were!!! LOL! But you neglected to mention exacto knives... got any?

I'm not at that company anymore, tho, and we had sold most of the old drafting tables and light tables and kept a few.

Some drink from the fountain of knowledge while other's just gargle with it.