Adobe vs. Macromedia

[New_vision]

I was wondering I am kinda new to web designing and didnt know which program to get. Its between Adobe GoLive or Macromedia Dreamweaver, Which is the best to work with? Opinions please

[benjo]

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I was wondering I am kinda new to web designing and didnt know which program to get.* Its between Adobe GoLive or Macromedia Dreamweaver, Which is the best to work with? Opinions please

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Dreamweaver is better as a matter of fact the new Go Live is missing features from what I heard and the new Dreamweaver has new support for more CSS.



Go with Macromedia on this one.

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[tallmikeG]

i agree with benjo

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[rik154]

How easy is it to implement Photoshop into the workflow. I know Macromedia wants it to be Fireworks/Flash/Dreamweaver. So how does, or how would you fit Photoshop into the flow. I love Photoshop for so many reasons and would like to use it as much as poss.

[benjo]

I use photoshop too but unless it's extremly complex I go with fireworks on the web stuff. I usually just created whatever it is then export it as a .jpg and import it into either dreamweaver or slice it up in fireworks. Depends.



I'm shore even if you slice it up in Imageready you can import that into Dreamweaver, don't know how but if all esle fails just open the .html file and copy and paste it in. Remember that this stuff is standard based HTML so you really can do alot more than you think.

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[New_vision]

Thanks guys for the input.

[KidTokyo]

Dreamweaver is better. And thats coming froma hardcore Adobe fan. It just has more features, an easier to use interface. Besides that, GoLive has that grid feature that lets people who have no design experience place things whereever they want, and the program automatically generates the html to make it appear in that position. Its a pathetic way to make people think they are actually designing a webpage.


When I make my pages, I use photoshop to design it, then slice it up (I bypass using Imageready), then bring it into Dreamweaver to put together. I prefer not to use graphic software to generate my html.

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We use frontpage because of the live/online instant file mangement it has. All of our graphics sites are maintained with FP. Laugh if you want but even this forum is updated via FrontPage. THe new 2003 has some great features and I can do most anything in half the time versus DW or GL. Take it from a guy that spends 5-15 hours a day in a HTML eidtor.

Allen Harkleroad

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[KidTokyo]

Im sorry but FrontPage just doesnt cut it.


First of all Microsoft products are hideous, and the thought of using their product to design a website is quite frightening.

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Hi KidTokyo,


You have your opinion and I have mine. The products aren't all hideous. Our network of GRAPHICS sites (including this forum)are edited and created in FrontPage get about 1.8 million pages views a month and FP since version 2000 have extremely clean code and almost all browsers render our code nearly the same, very cross platform independant i might add. I hate the clunkiness of DW and GL, yes i said clunky, they aren't very intuitive and both have a pretty large leanring curve. When you design for 300,000 unique visitors a month in DW and/or GL get back to me.


Oh and if Microsoft products are so hideous why are you using Windows XP and Internet Explorer 6?

Allen Harkleroad

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[KidTokyo]

I do design for 300,000 users a month. I work for a web design company and have been personally responsible for over100 websites during my career here.


Im assuming that when you say clunky, you are referring to the tons of features built into the interface.


I actually use my Mac more than my PC. Many people use Microsoft products not because they want to, but for business and compatibility reasons. It remains a flawed, inferior, horribly designed product that has more security holes than swiss cheese.

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Well I use both a Mac and Windows PC's and until you use FrontPage to take care of sites with 9,000+ Pages (such as TIEMdesign.com), don't knock it to hard. If we move a page or an entire folder to another areavia frontpage, it will update all the hyperlinks, rather than us having to edit each page or do a searcn and replace to change them all. Being on a Mac (which when you logged on to this forum it showed you on XP and IE 6) i understand because Microsoft basically stopped updating FrontPage for Mac, which is a shame in my opinion. Because if they would include FP in Mac Office X and had the same features as the Windows version most Mac users would'nt poo-poo it. And when i referred ot the sites we are talking 5 sites that get the traffic we have, not hundreds. So in that respect I consider this thread at an end

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[iluvmyibook]

I'm considering the Adobe line mainly because I like PS. I will be designing my own website (own graphics, animations, content and layout) and I have been considering GoLive mainly because I thought it easier to just have the whole kit and caboodle.

Now I'm not a web designer I will have to learn from scratch. So for someone like me would you say go with Adobe or Macromedia? Keeping in mind I will probably get myself PS and Illustrator.

[zaefod]

I'm not taking a side here because I have NO knowledge of FP, but I use the same method as kidTokyo. I use PS and then slice (no imageready). I then build my page with DW/hand coding, placing my sliced images as needed. My only complaint is when I open someone else's page in DW to edit it and the program can't read much of the code making it uneditable except by hand.

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[style]

just a word for fp... it is cheaper!!! it might not do the job aswell (i wouldnt know) but its not that bad! iluvmyibook - if ur considering to but ps and illustrator, wouldn't it be cheaper to go for a package that inludes all the programs your interested in??good luck!http://graphicdesignforum.com/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[axoi]

Allen,

If all your doing with FP is updating content and moving files around then what you really need is contribute. It allows you to do all of that just like FP but without the code bloat. DreamWeaver is over kill for content updating.

BTW I DO know FP and I've had to fix too many pages of FOIA ( read government ) stuff because of the bad code it spits out. Even a new user shouldn't be able to produce that much bad code. There is a reason that DreamWeaver has an HTML Word... cleanup menu. FP just puts too much code in their pages, especially outdated font tags.

I've used DreamWeaver since Oct, before that I used VIM or VI. I'm currently checking out GoLive as I just got the Adobe CS Premium package today...yeah!

- Bill

[aprilcartergrant]

I use both -- Dreamweaver at work and GoLive at home -- and have no preference. They're both great.

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[jamesK1]

I was wondering I am kinda new to web designing and didnt know which program to get. Its between Adobe GoLive or Macromedia Dreamweaver, Which is the best to work with? Opinions please
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[urstwile]

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