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kinch
09-09-2007, 08:27 PM
Hello all,

I'm working on a logo for a company right now. Here is what I've got done so far:

http://www.kinchdesigns.ca/geodrive1.gif

The main use of this logo will be applying it onto "pipes" via stencils. So that is the reason for the 1 colour. The client originally wanted one maple leaf standing up, and one on it's side. Now we've decided to remove the one by the TM. So that won't be there anymore. The client also wants the font to be italicized, which I will do.

One thing the client wants is the maple leaf that is currently at the end of swoop to be standing up. And he also wants the swoop to not taper off at the end. I can easily make it not taper off, but I'm having trouble finding a way to make the maple leaf look good standing up at the end? Any suggestions?

Also I may need to remove the "globe" from the "O". What do you guys think? Should a die cut stencil be able to get those details okay? Keep in mind that this logo will show up pretty large... atleast 4 times the size that is currently on the screen.

Kool
09-09-2007, 08:37 PM
I think the globe will work ok but you'll have to get rid of the islands and the great lakes. Remember in a stencil you can't have any non connected objects. The same with the center of the D. Maybe you could break it at the top and the bottom so the round part is a little bit separate. Also the connection on the inside of the R will need to be beefed up a bit. With that thin connector it will get torn off very easily.

kinch
09-09-2007, 08:43 PM
I think the globe will work ok but you'll have to get rid of the islands and the great lakes. Remember in a stencil you can't have any non connected objects. The same with the center of the D. Maybe you could break it at the top and the bottom so the round part is a little bit separate. Also the connection on the inside of the R will need to be beefed up a bit. With that thin connector it will get torn off very easily.

Ok, I feel stupid now. Maybe if this was a special magnetic stencil, I could floating pieces :P The things you missed. Thanks :)

I posted this in another thread, but any idea on how I could pseudo italicize this font? It doesn't have a italicized form....

kinch
09-09-2007, 10:03 PM
Heres an update... Going to try a few variations of the maple leaf and show it to the client, let him pick. I should have got more information out of my last meeting.... lesson learned :)

http://www.kinchdesigns.ca/geodrive2.gif

budafist
09-09-2007, 10:05 PM
Update is better, but I don't like the swoosh turning into a rounded end like that. The previous pointed one looked better. This new one looks too chunky.

kinch
09-09-2007, 10:10 PM
I just realized that the "O" need to be fixed for the stencil.... just some slashes in the middle?

kinch
09-09-2007, 10:14 PM
Budafist: The client wants it to be like a pipe at the end. They specifcally asked me not to have it taper off at the end. So I decided to go with the round edge... I think it looks better then a straight edge... I hate this subjectivity :p

They want it to be like a pipe... this will be going on pipes. They are actually drills for oil and gas.

captain spanky
09-10-2007, 09:15 AM
checkout stencil revolution for example of some decent stencils...
http://www.stencilrevolution.com/homepage.php
theres a few tutorials too if you're really stuck. and some ok stencil style fonts for download...

Are the designs going to be sprayed paint or sandblasted into the pipes?
you need to decide if the stencils are going to be made of out adhesive vinyl or cut out of card/metal. if you use adhesive vinyl you can have things like in the globe but as a standard die cut stencil, the globe design won't work as is... and you want to avoid lots of detail as whoever is making the stencils won't want to do loads of weeding for each stencil. :)

Drorain
09-10-2007, 01:07 PM
I’d rather see the leaf within the ‘O’ than the globe, your details on there are to small and a nightmare for any machine to produce. Once painted on to the pipes, I don’t think the finer details will produce anyway. Try the leaf in the ‘o’ and have the stem break out of the bottom…don’t skew the leaf either if it can be helped, the skewed earth is actually striking me as a particularly bizarre image.

I think there are to many pieces to the logo, needs to be simplified just a little…and I think removing one of the elements such as the leaf or globe will do that.

bejamshi
09-10-2007, 01:24 PM
The strike is over powering everything ,it is too bold.

PrintDriver
09-10-2007, 01:54 PM
You could use paint mask instead of stencil. Cuts like vinyl. Goes on like low-adhesive vinyl and comes off fairly easily. With a transfer tape to put it down just like vinyl, you don't have to worry about your drop-outs.
Recommended for shop paint only, not field application.
How did you plan on making your stencils?

tZ
09-10-2007, 08:17 PM
I don't think this is working very well.

Maybe later I'll find a more intelligent way to say it but, I don't think this is very successful- conceptually or conceptually.

frankster
09-10-2007, 09:37 PM
or conceptually ;)

tZ
09-11-2007, 06:01 AM
lol

compositionally

carveacurve
09-11-2007, 08:58 AM
I liked that "o" part..

Ovaltine
09-11-2007, 12:18 PM
Perhaps instead of rounding the swooshes end or lopping it off at a 90 degree angle you could slice it at a 30 or 45 degree angle with the top part "pointing" to the leaf? The roundedness doesn't seem to "go" with the rest of the logo.

Also, since the floater is an issue with the "o", what if you made the globe the size of the "o" and maybe reverse its color (the water would become red, and the land white) so the globe implies the letter without the letter's actual outline. I don't know if this will work, you'd have to play with it a bit, I think.

kinch
09-11-2007, 12:24 PM
Perhaps instead of rounding the swooshes end or lopping it off at a 90 degree angle you could slice it at a 30 or 45 degree angle with the top part "pointing" to the leaf? The roundedness doesn't seem to "go" with the rest of the logo.

Also, since the floater is an issue with the "o", what if you made the globe the size of the "o" and maybe reverse its color (the water would become red, and the land white) so the globe implies the letter without the letter's actual outline. I don't know if this will work, you'd have to play with it a bit, I think.

I'll try your suggestion with the "o" and see how it turns out. I will also try swooping the end up, like you suggested. I tried it before, but I didn't give too much time to it.

budafist
09-12-2007, 04:38 AM
Also something to consider is how many times this is going to be stencilled onto the pipes. If these pipes are only going to be stencilled a dozen times, then intricate is not ideal, but it is doable. However, if the client wants to stencil hundreds or even thousands of these suckers, you need a strong design that can be sprayed on easily. Otherwise, the person applying these will curse you and your offspring.

Think of your offspring!

Ned
09-12-2007, 07:02 AM
Budafist: The client wants it to be like a pipe at the end. They specifcally asked me not to have it taper off at the end. So I decided to go with the round edge... I think it looks better then a straight edge... I hate this subjectivity :p

They want it to be like a pipe... this will be going on pipes. They are actually drills for oil and gas.
If that's the case, then why not end the "pipe" with a circle, with enough negative space to indicate the edge of an open pipe? My my, it looks like I will have to open up PS to illustrate what I mean, as I can't seem to quite put it into words... Update to this post coming in 20 minutes after that chunky program decides to load. :D

*EDIT: Okay, I'm done... This is what I mean....

http://mediamainline.com/client/kinch/geodrive3.gif