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Here's the deal and I'm hoping there is an expert out there that can help. We have a template from our yearbook company to design our yearbook cover. It's approximately 12 x 18 and a 300 dpi res. As a blank document it is about 1.8 MB.
We added a photo that is 366K and little bit of text and after transforming the photo to fit the size of the document, the sucker is now 194.22 MB!:eek::eek::eek:
We need to create a brick wall texture background and I have never experienced anything like this. What's going on and is it because I transformed (resizing it to be larger obviously)? Help!
obesebee
09-14-2007, 06:03 PM
Is the image by any chance a JPEG and you're using Quark? If so, scale the image in Photoshop and save out as a TIFF, reimport and see what happens.
If not, then I'm stuck.
Image is a jpg, but I'm using Photoshop. I'm going to replicate the file in a new file and see if it still does the same thing.
Anyone else?
I should add it has to be in the template somewhere as I have four students using the template for different designs and each one used a different photo and they all create huge files. Anywhere from 89. MB to the 194. MB
Only me.:confused:
Broacher
09-14-2007, 07:22 PM
I think I've heard about this too. Something about when placing JPGs into Quark, it automatically embeds an uncompressed copy (in non-binary form) of the JPG into the document. Is that how it goes?
Jackimalyn
09-14-2007, 07:44 PM
tea, if the image isnt flattened it can get large, not 192mb.
I think you are a bit mistaken on your starting file size tea. When I make a document 12" x 18" @ 300 dpi the starting file size is like 75mb - tack on a few layers and 194mb is not out of the question. At home I am working on a pocket folder design that has an background image 9.5" x 12.5" Tack on a few layers and the file size is in the same ballpark as yours is.
CkretAjint
09-14-2007, 11:40 PM
I should be so lucky to get files so small. The last cover for our corporate magazine that I 'touched up', the final layered file size was 1.4Gb! Yes, GIGS!!! It took about 15 minutes to open in photoshop, and about 5 minutes to save each time.
urstwile
09-15-2007, 12:24 AM
A new blank document at the size you stated comes out the same size for me as it did for MD. However, when the blank document is saved as a JPEG, the file size in the Finder shows as 1.7 megabytes.
Why are you taking a 366K JPEG, and transforming it to fit a 12'x18' document at 300dpi?
an excellent question ned.
Why are you taking a 366K JPEG, and transforming it to fit a 12'x18' document at 300dpi?
It was the biggest brick wall they found to use as a background. I'm taking that's bad and guessing the bigger the image we have to use to plop in there, the better. If that's the correct guess, we have the resources to shoot to photograph an older brick wall. They are also considering a cement wall and then they can pop some nice bright colors off of the gray color. Their theme is if walls could talk and they want to do a graffiti stylization on it. Nothing is finalized at all, so any advice with working with a file this size is more than welcome right now. They are working on the brand new iMacs so the problem isn't the machine so much and students (and teacher) who don't have a ton of experience with files this big. I also had them drag them down to the machine vs. the server which has helped immensely, but the risk was that someone would trash them accidentally. They are machines that are used by many different users. I've buried them pretty good, so now they have to find them. God knows, I probably won't. Oh, boy...isn't this fun?!
My concern was mostly the file size and now that I had a chance to find last year's file to look at, I discovered it was 92 MB. Flattened it was 17MB. I didn't realize they would get so big! Most of the time, the student work never sees the color printer and last year the kid who designed it did it at home, so I didn't realize at all. Normally, when the kids set up there documents, I have them just set everything up with documents that are much smaller.
Thanks everybody...I just didn't realize that's what it would do. When I discovered the file size, I had this horrible vision that the file sizes were growing exponetially with 24 students and crashing the whole system. I guess my worries are put to rest now. How do people deal with this on a regular basis?
urstwile
09-15-2007, 10:15 PM
More RAM. ;)
Tea, do a search on textures on the forums, I remember a couple of different threads where people posted links to higher-resolution texture files than the one you're working with.
Generally, you don't want to upsize a raster image in Photoshop, as you'll lose quality.
But the file size you're talking about sounds about normal to me when dealing with a layered Photoshop file.