Illustrator question

[watrix]

Hello everyone,
I am trying to design a logo using Illustrator, I am trying to apply some filters and they are greyd out.(not able to use it). Keep in mind that I do have my object selected.:confused:
I am sure it is something very simple, so I let you experts help me out on this one.
thankssssssssss
:p

[CkretAjint]

Don't use "Filters" in Illustrator. Use "Effects"

[watrix]

thanks, it worked.

[Danger_Mouse]

filters will ungrey if you start working with raster images.

I don't recommend it, use PS for raster images.

[Broacher]

And for better design, you might also want to consider an expert.

[PrintDriver]

I'm quite scared at what Effects you might be applying to a LOGO?
:eek:
Generally not good form.

<And do you know what Raster Effect Settings are for?>

[mojoprime]

PD's right. even an effect as simply as a soft dropshadow created in illustrator can be a huge issue on down the road.

be careful how you use those effects.

[Danger_Mouse]

flatten those bad boys and you can do ANYTING....if you don't believe me go to www.zombo.com.....where anyting in possible!

[Blanket_509]

I think that an effective logo is always designed using positive and negative space. You don't want the logo's effectivness to lie in a color or effect because then, if you have to take that color or effect away for any application, you will be rendering the logo ineffective, or even changing the logo entirely.

If it works in black and white, without any effects, then you won't have any problems down the road. Then, of course, you can always enhance the logo with effects or colors if the application permits.


Question for someone with more printing expertise:
I designed a logo composed of a graphic and text, and would like for the graphic portion of the logo to have a faint dropshadow while the text remains uneffected (to give the illusion of the graphic being slightly elevated off the page). The logo will be printed on a white background, so the dropshadow should work just fine. My question is, is there any reason that I shouldn't apply this effect in Illustrator. I want the logo to remain vector, so I don't want to do this in photoshop, but I don't know how well most printers respond to effects applied in Illustrator.

Thanks

[Ned]

Question for someone with more printing expertise:
I designed a logo composed of a graphic and text, and would like for the graphic portion of the logo to have a faint dropshadow while the text remains uneffected (to give the illusion of the graphic being slightly elevated off the page). The logo will be printed on a white background, so the dropshadow should work just fine. My question is, is there any reason that I shouldn't apply this effect in Illustrator. I want the logo to remain vector, so I don't want to do this in photoshop, but I don't know how well most printers respond to effects applied in Illustrator.

Thanks
Yeah, most printers will handle the effect fine. It all depends on just how old their software is. But any way you look at it, Illy is going to create a raster image out of that effect, so you'll have a mixed raster/vector file.

If you want to create your dropshadow as a vector graphic, you can take the outline of your shape, trace a smaller version of it, and color blend it from grey to white, then expand that blend at an appropriate # of steps for your printing needs. That will make a more complex file, but one which will retain the same quality and compatibility over any application.

[Blanket_509]

Thanks Ned!

[PrintDriver]

When apply a drop shadow or glow to a graphic that is going to print, and especially if it is going to be scaled, you MUST use the Effects, not the Filter. You can edit an Effect. You can't edit a filter. There are other reasons to use Effects too hinted at in my post above.

Also, drop shadows and glows are transparency effects and unless placed on a separate layer from the type will create a rastered effect in the type that extends beyond the apparent radius of the actual effect. Be very very careful when doing any flattening...

It would do you well to go to this link and scroll down to the pdf files.
http://www.adobe.com/studio/print/index.html
and read ALL of the white papers about Transparency, not just the ones for designers but also for printing and producing PDFs.