PDA

Click to See Complete Forum and Search --> : Firing a Client


JohnInMich
11-07-2007, 10:21 PM
Anyone want to share their techniques for letting a client go? Especially one that drove you crazy for about a year but you ignored all the signs because you're so busy?

I've never fired a client before, and in my 10 years of freelancing I've made every mistake in the book (mistakes that hurt me, the clients not so much). I've learned never to work without a contract, never to work on spec, and to always get money down beforehand.

I've realized a new mistake is being too accommodating when clients don't do what they're supposed to do. In this case, the client I want to fire is guilty of:

(1) missing or forgetting all appointments (my mistake: not charging for waiting time. When office staff has called to locate the client and he's at home, agreeing to go over to meet at his house. I admit the house is only a few blocks from the office, but still.)

(2) refusing to spend money to get a decent product. In this case, balking at the price to get professional photos of him and his staff for newspaper/magazine ads. Client provided digital photographs from a cell phone and wondered why the pictures looked so bad (my mistake: not refusing the assignment without adequate photographs.)

(3) sending a mockup of a new logo in Word, and then expecting it to be done cheaply because the layout is basically done (my mistake: not refusing this assignment outright!)

(4) balking at the cost of stock photography (a $300 Getty Images photo) that he wanted. (my mistake: finding something workable on iStockphoto and not charging for it).

(5) peppering his eMails with "duuuhhhh's!", etc. in response to my questions.

I've done good work for him and he likes my work (except for those ads), but to me it's becoming degrading. I feel it is a disservice to pretend that "garbage in / beautiful work out" is true, or that designers don't have busy schedules.

Also, I wouldn't miss the $$$.

graphicsmama
11-07-2007, 10:38 PM
Well you obviously don't need a reason. Just send him a letter saying you won't be able to service his needs anymore. I wouldn't even go into the ins and outs of WHY because it sounds like from the get-go this guy has no respect for designers anyway...and you trying to explain anything to him won't change a thing.

Just my two cents. Be rid of him and be happy! :) But don't burn your bridge....keep it business.

cornfed
11-07-2007, 10:39 PM
I recently had a client that treated me terribly. He talked ugly to me, was rude, asked for ridiculous things...the list goes on and on. After about a week or two or putting up with his crap, I finally said "You are not to call me again until and unless you are able to talk to me with respect. I will not return your calls or produce any work for you or release any of the work that has been completed until and unless you comply." It worked. I recommend that you do the same! Don't say anything that you don't intend on following through on. I was ready, willing and able to drop this client. He felt so bad that he paid me more money than I had quoted him. Still not enough for me to ever work for him again! Good luck!

A few weeks later, I was talking to the sound engineer of the project - I was doing the cd cover. Apparently, everyone across the board had problems with this man. I was relieved that it wasn't just me! I'd bet that the man in your case has no clue that you are regarding him this way!

GraphixNPrint
11-07-2007, 10:41 PM
sounds to me like your dealing with a real estate agent... they are almost all like that!

DesignVHL
11-07-2007, 10:47 PM
Just be frank w/ the client....Tell him you just do not care to work with him anymore...OR if you want to be nice, tell him you can't fit his projects into your schedule....or just say sorry, this is not working out...e-mail or phone call both are fine. You don't NEED to supply reasons or examples....if they do ask why...calmly and professionally explain some issues that were a real bother to you. Best of luck...sux when you have a crappy client...

I've thought about putting together a document for new clients, and for on my website that is titled "how to work with a graphic designer"...i'm not sure if it would be insulting or not though (depends how it is wored, i know)..but thats why i haven't done anything like that yet-or if i ever will.

D-Frag
11-07-2007, 10:56 PM
crap in = crap out, you can only polish a turd so many ways. just remember all of this when you take on your next client

frankster
11-07-2007, 11:22 PM
Just be frank w/ the client....Tell him you just do not care to work with him anymore.

Yeah, just pretend to be me when you tell people to piss off. That way they will still like you and just think I'm a bitch. ;)

Honestly though... I know it's tempting to spell out how much of a pain in the arse they are to them and give the real reasons why you do not want to work with them, but it's much better in the long run to just explain that you are very busy and are having to be very selective with the projects that you take on and are not going to be able to allocate the time that his/her project requires.