Can't find logo...

[Spunky Nerd]

Hello everyone! I am making a banner for "Froots"- Healthier Options. I have been trying to find a vector logo because all I have in a 1 in x1 in 150 dpi p.o.s... I have already searched www.brandsoftheworld.com. Does any one know where I could find a vecor file for this logo?

[budafist]

If it's a legit job, you should contact their marketing department. If it's an illegitimate job, you shouldn't be printing peoples logos on banners anyway right?

Their contact details can be found here (http://www.froots.com/contact.htm).

[Spunky Nerd]

Thanks for the advice, we are doing this for a Froot shop in florida for a sister franchise, so it just has to go through a lot of people to get to me... :eek:

[PrintDriver]

Who's between you and your telephone? All it takes is a call. Buda gave you the info you need to get it done.

[Craig B]

Been there, done that. I understand the frustration of trying to find the right person that can send you the correct file (.eps) Sometimes, it's practically impossible.

With that being said, they apparently use a different logo (??) on their menus that you can download as PDFs from their website. Now, hypothetically, if that logo is their true logo, and that was the logo you needed, then "hypothetically" you could open that PDF in Illustrator and you may even find that their logo on their menu (even though it's different) is in vector format.

Hypothetically that is ...

[Craig B]

Who's between you and your telephone? All it takes is a call. Buda gave you the info you need to get it done.

I completely disagree. I can't tell you how many times it's taken us weeks, months or even worse for us to potentially receive an .eps version of client logos that both sides are in agreement with us using. That's if you ever get an .eps version.

Acquiring other company logos from their PDFs has always been my bst approach. It's not a potential redraw from brands of the world and it even sometimes is spot color.

If you can acquire it quickly through the proper channels, great.

If not, I do whatever I can to get hold of it.

[budafist]

I always call and ask for their marketing department or their designer (if I suspect they have an inhouse designer). If marketing doesn't have a copy of their logo, then no one will!

[CkretAjint]

Well then... Wanna find me the LifeSAVERS candy logo in an editable format?? :p

[budafist]

Well then... Wanna find me the LifeSAVERS candy logo in an editable format?? :p

Have you tried calling 1 800 WRIGLEY (U.S. and Canada consumers only) and ask to speak to their marketing dept?

I've never been denied a logo before. I've had clients tell me that they can't get a spot colour eps and that I need to make their jpg work. I just go and phone up their higher ups.

I don't think any company wants their logo to look shoddy in print.

[CkretAjint]

It's not exactly something they might wanna be associated with (doing a parady of it). Nothing bad, it's for a charity walk and I'm gonna hack up the logo. So I don't think they will just 'give' it to me... :o

[frankster]

well, they have a new version of it these days don't they. The old one would take time to fangle, but the new one just looks pretty much like a straight forward font. Will people even recognise the new logo if it's parodied?

http://www.candydirect.com/08LifeSaversFruitTartsBothTins.jpg

[CkretAjint]

Nah, really need the old logo... I'll post up pics tomorrow of some screen caps of what it'll be... I already recreated it (using my own variation of a similar font). So if I get it would just sweeten the deal with it! :)

Here is what it is replacing:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/2266225132_390d1c83e2_o.png

Our company held a contest, and this was the best submission from none artsy people. I was FORCED to make it on the shirt. Then I convinced them to let me redo it... THANK GOD!!! Not gonna be the BEST, but definately an improvment.

Yes, on the front that 'guy' represents 2 "F's" and on the back the same symbol represents a "F" and a "N"... *shrugs* :confused:

[budafist]

If it's just a parody, can't you just livetrace the logo?

Did I say a bad word?

[frankster]

Yes, on the front that 'guy' represents 2 "F's" and on the back the same symbol represents a "F" and a "N"... *shrugs* :confused:

Lol! WTF!?!

[Spunky Nerd]

Thanks for the posts... BUT it doesn't really solve the problem of not being able to explain to someone who is computer illiterate why you cant use a 1x1 inch 150 dpi jpg. I have been so suprised at how bad some of these marketing departments are. It took us two months to get the ups logo from thier marketing department... We have so many people who have thrown the disks with their native logo files on it away because they couldn't open it on their computer... Sigh...

On top of this, my boss was like "well open it in photoshop and jsut save it at a higher dpi..." I tried to explain it wouldn't work, you can't make pixels magicaly appear... Ended up, he made me use the square inch logo for a 4x10 foot banner... wow, I should probably look for a new job...

[urstwile]

I can relate to how hard it can sometimes be to get what you need. If you click on Buda's links however, there are a bunch of PDF's scattered all over their website. Their logo is on a few of them, and they're definitely vector. Only thing is that they're not in the same configuration as the one you posted, but they might still be usable.

I second Craig's method as often being a good one when all other avenues fail. Trying to explain "vector" to some marketing assistant in some places can be quite a hellacious task. And the smaller the company, the larger the problem, I often find.

[PrintDriver]

The only time I have trouble getting a vector logo is when one truly does not exist (Online companies have a lot to learn about growth potential, LOL!). And I've done enough hunting and poking around on the BoTW site (and others) to know a good percentage of those are other people's bad traces.

Buda is right. A lot of companies don't want their logo to look shoddy in print. Especially BIG print.

[CkretAjint]

Lol! WTF!?!

Exactly...

Don't want to highjack this thread to much more so I started a new one over here (http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=482840#post482840).

:D

[Spunky Nerd]

Thanks for the pdf advice that you absolutely did not give... wink. I just replaced the leaf, froots, and the small print at the bottom, I had to keep the healthy options and the apple the same, but it looks cleaner overall. Better than the original, still bad, but oh well.... :rolleyes:

[Craig B]

I agree with Urst, most larger companies it's easier to acquire an .eps, but smaller ones can be a pain.

[budafist]

Sometimes asking for a pdf of their letterhead can help. Provided they don't give you one that's been created in Word ;)

[Spunky Nerd]

Nevermind now, the boss man said to use the logo we have .... he is an ex call call center ceo or something, bought into the franchise 4 years ago and still has no clue about how important it is for a logo to be presented well. I can seem to get him to understand about these things.. oh wel I guess

[budafist]

Buying a franchise is not cheap. You would think that a franchise owner would be armed with everything they need to set up their business. Including print files etc.

[PrintDriver]

I think Spunky means his own boss at a franchise printer. Not the owner of the Froots place... Print is like design. Anyone can buy a printer and hang out a sign...doesn't mean they know what they are doing.
<sigh>

[budafist]

Oh I see. I concur too. I once worked for a guy who bought a print shop with no previous experience in the industry. He just saw a business for sale for a good price and decided he could do it. He didn't want to hire an actual printer so I was the only staff he had. Man was that a learning curve!

I learned a lot on that job, but not from him!