Poster Of an Illustration

[Irine]

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q278/leonetha/IlluPoster.jpg

[Irine]

ok it doesn`t want to let my type anyhting there after i posted the pic so here i go

It`s for class, and it`s a project where we are suppposed to make up a country and then do a whole work about it...

like make...well it`s too complicated to explain...

The instructore liked it. I will finish this white spaces later.

Do you think that it looks like something for teenagers?

Interesting if you kill me here,again/ like you did with the logo i posted then :p It`s just that our instructore sais WOW to ANYHTING you give him...and i love illustraiton and think i can keep it up, but STILL was looking for some more serious feedback....just to knwo where i am and what i jeneraly should work on...........

[JgS]

In my opinion it's a disturbing image. Essentially you have a 16-year-old that looks like a prostitute, sticking her middle finger up at everyone. I'm not sure thats a good image for teenagers.

[Virgo Nightingale]

I don't understand how this relates to "make up a country and then do a whole work about it."

I agree that the illustration seems to represent a negative image of a teenager, but if that's what you're going for, perhaps it works. I don't know that I'd use that image for a piece that's FOR teens, as opposed to a piece directed at adults that's more of a social commentary ABOUT teens.

[cornfed]

Teenage is one word.

As the mother of a 15 year old, I'm not impressed and wouldn't want this to hang on her wall. This is the exact attitude that parents are dualling with the media to overcome. It would be nice if we, as the folks responsible for designing for this very targeted group, could work with parents to steer todays youth into a more positive direction. The teenage angst thing is really annoying and not tolerated in my house - just ask my daughter.

You do however have a nice illustration style! Put it to good use!

[balou]

I too like the illustration (sans "the bird") but I think the concept of "Teen Age" as an independent country is a bit of a stretch for the homework.

[Irine]

Well you see guys since - it`s not FOR teens in reality...it`s more like...what i feel teenageres are thses days :(

Looks like a prostitute! wow ! that`s far!

I don`t know, but anyways it`s not the point. i really wasn`t expecting moral stuff HERE...

You see guys IN OUR SCHOOL students almost always get extra good feedback if they have a provocative...stuff! seriously! Now i am not trying to immitate THAT but i just recall my teen years....not so long ago :)

I see teens who really go after being rude and negative and brutal about sex and stuff..rebellious ..PUNKS! so yes it is a work ABOUT TEENGAGERS and not FOR them lso we need to make a hymn so we took a song by simple plan

shut up

SIMPLE PLAN LYRICS

"Shut Up"

There you go
You're always so right
It's all a big show
It's all about you

You think you know
What everyone needs
You always take time
To criticize me

It seems like everyday
I make mistakes
I just can't get it right

It's like I'm the one
You love to hate
But not today

So shut up, shut up, shut up
Don't wanna hear it
Get out, get out, get out
Get out of my way
Step up, step up, step up
You'll never stop me
Nothing you say today
Is gonna bring me down

There you go
You never ask why
It's all a big lie
Whatever you do

You think you're special
But I know, and I know
And I know, and we know
That you're not

You're always there to point
Out my mistakes
And shove them in my face

It's like I'm the one
You love to hate
But not today

So shut up, shut up, shut up
Don't wanna hear it
Get out, get out, get out
Get out of my way
Step up, step up, step up
You'll never stop me
Nothing you say today
Is gonna bring me down
Is gonna bring me down

Will never bring me down

Don't tell me who I should be
And don't try to tell me what's right for me
Don't tell me what I should do
I don't wanna waste my time
I'll watch you fade away

So in this country it is directed at adults who always tell the teens what to do and they are rebelious like that and somehow the bad guys...MY teens..that`s hwo i rememebr it

Now, i wanted to aks if the whole composition is okay and if she is okay. i have some more, thoguht. not of a punk but not ALL provocative punks. i wonder how she is merging with the background? how the composition is? things like that.

[Irine]

I think the concept of "Teen Age" as an independent country is a bit of a stretch for the homework.

What do you mean?

I am glad you like the illustraiton style nice to hear something good in this forum :)

i will fix it into 1 word thanks cornfed

I wanted to knwo oif the typography is oky with the illustration or the last word is stuck into her neck?

[redneckrodney]

Imho, the technique is good, and you have a good start for a poster. I will have to agree with everyone else, in that I don't see how it relates to "making up a country", and, albeit true, the image of a teenager like this is somewhat an issue.

[bigmedia]

I quite like the illustration, and the Teen Age being two words could be seen as a play on words, so I'd leave that.

Depending on the context of it's use, I dont really understand how this relates to breif of making a country, so it could be a bit taboo and tongue in cheek, but I dont think it's a bad thing at all. It's not like you've drawn a teenager like that and associated her with some kind of product to sell to kids.

[cornfed]

I really wasn't trying to attack you from a moral standpoint. It just seems to me that the media - and that includes us since we design for said media - has relayed to teenagers that they are supposed to have a lot of angst and so they adopt that into their persona way more than they should. During the cotton picking days, many teenagers were expected to help on the family farm. Since they were raised under this expectation, then they fulfilled it - no questions asked. Now, they have angst because the media portrays this - no questions asked. It's hard to look at this project from an objective and nonethical standpoint because what we do does, or should, make us look at the powerful influence that we have across all genres and target audiences. I, personally, feel a sense of responsibility in this regard when I design. Imagine if everyone did how much we could change the scope of what's going on around us.

As for your technique, I think it's a decent start. I think if you're going to use a grunge font, then you should customize it a little bit so all the e's don't look the same, etc. Then it's not so obvious that you used a font. I really like your choice of colors. There's something you're doing with a blur feature thats not working for me. Either blur it or don't, but I think you gotta pick!

[Broacher]

Laughed out loud. I gotta show my teenage daughter this one.

[Yossarian]

That's an interesting detail on the shorts to lay in some photographic imagery along with the illustration. I like the effect.

There's a certain awkwardness to the hand though. Hands can be tricky and usually one can get away with a certain amount of indistinct suggestion of the form and then let the viewers' eyes fill in the rest. However, since this particular hand becomes a major focus of the piece, a little reworking wouldn't hurt.

This is just a stylistic thing, but I also think you can see too much of her philtrum. :eek: (Sounds dirty, but it isn't :D :D )

[Irine]

Yosserian - yes this time the hand didn`t come out well. there were times i did it good, thgouth. You are right

I will get that graphic pen and correct it

Cornfed - i understand that you are not attacking me, but saying what you feel about it and i agree with you about the media resolts. I will try to play with the 2 ee so that they don`t look the same size.

thanks :)

[urstwile]

I really wasn't trying to attack you from a moral standpoint. It just seems to me that the media - and that includes us since we design for said media - has relayed to teenagers that they are supposed to have a lot of angst and so they adopt that into their persona way more than they should. During the cotton picking days, many teenagers were expected to help on the family farm. Since they were raised under this expectation, then they fulfilled it - no questions asked. Now, they have angst because the media portrays this - no questions asked. It's hard to look at this project from an objective and nonethical standpoint because what we do does, or should, make us look at the powerful influence that we have across all genres and target audiences. I, personally, feel a sense of responsibility in this regard when I design. Imagine if everyone did how much we could change the scope of what's going on around us.

Cornfed, I can't empathize as a parent, because I amn't one, but I understand exactly what you're saying here.

[PrintDriver]

Hafta admit, it took me a few seconds to figure out she was giving me the finger and not a 'come hither' beckoning motion. Prostitute looking? Yes. In a goth kind of way. But most goths I know wear more. Matter of taste I suppose.

As for stretching the boundaries of the brief, live it up while in school. You won't make money doing it in the Real World. :D

[turntablist]

is that 6 fingers?

[Optimusdinkus]

As for stretching the boundaries of the brief, live it up while in school. You won't make money doing it in the Real World. :D Yea should be the headline or even a masthead for sylibuses (sp?) in school =D

[Optimusdinkus]

One thing that stands out is that the drawing could be more proportional to a figure. I know its common practice these days for people not to refine some aspects of their drawing skills, but it would lend more sophistication and cause better visual interest if the damn thing had a well drawn figure, I think personally (can still be roughed up).

[dot]

re: fonts - i think the first font ("teen age") is better than the second one, and also that they don't go together all that well. one looks modern and urban, the other looks smoothed-out gothic.
i don't think "independence" looks stuck into into her neck, looks fine to my eye.

and i personally am pro angry teenagers, so the graphic works fine for me. agree about the hand though.

[Microswede]

I agree with Optimusdinkus and strongly recommend you study the human anatomy. Bending the rules in illustration only works when you know what those rules are. "If you can't think of a box how can you think outside one?" as my instructor would say. If you're really interested in illustration, take some classes, buy some books, and draw, draw, DRAW.

In the meantime, you can clean up the girl's hand. The top of her head is very flat, can you give her some more brain room? Her jolly roger necklace is missing a bone on the bottom right. Her moth is very narrow (the corners typically line up with the center of each eye on most humans) and she could use a little more jaw and a little less neck.

The text is not working well with the poster right now, and like mentioned the two fonts don't mix well. Try some different varieties, and see how you can incorporate it more into the poster (better angles, maybe faded some). I like the look of the text at the bottom of the page, though I'm not sure if that's how you'd want to do the main title/subtitle.

And, I agree that just because you CAN show teens as rebels and 'punks' and whatnot, doesn't mean you SHOULD. And isn't that pandering to the stereotype anyway? If you're trying to show originality, try something other than the angst-filled teen.

Keep at it.