Graphic Design Horror Stories

[DesignVHL]

The graphic design software history thread mentioned the old rubylith, and it brought back a memory from my highschool graphic design class and I will NEVER forget it! So I thought I would share, and I thought it would be interesting to hear your graphic design horror stories as well! Here is mine:

It was either my jr or sr year of highschool...I think senior. A bunch of us were around the big light table. Most including myself were cutting rubylith w/ an exacto knife...

Teacher calls a class 'meeting' and we were to stop what we were doing, and pay attention to what he was saying. After that was done, there was an accident in class. One of the students was holding their knife blade side up in their fist. Another student next to them wasn't paying attention, and went to look back down at their work to continue what they were doing, and the exacto blade went deep right into their eye - like RIGHT under - just missed losing an eye - but in the soft tissue socket area. It was a bloody mess, and the student was in quite a bit of pain. This I will never forget!

Another story, my teacher sliced the tips of his fingers off on the automatic paper cutter.

I sure hope nothing ever happens to me! I mean i've sliced and diced myself with an exacto before, and I've gotten many paper cuts, but thats about it.

[Ferraribabe]

I remember in class I was working on a 2 colour press machine and I wasnt paying attention and the sleeve of my sweater got caught inbetween the safe guards and grabbed a good chunk of my sweater...it was so scary cuz it was pulling it and I remember freaking out...loool

[Bladez]

I worked with a girl who got her hair caught in a paper shredder.....I laughed my ass off because she was stuck and didn't think to hit reverse after she turned it off. Does that count as a horror story?

[DesignVHL]

sure why not! no rules! :P Getting stuck in anything sucks!

[Ferraribabe]

I worked with a girl who got her hair caught in a paper shredder.....I laughed my ass off because she was stuck and didn't think to hit reverse after she turned it off. Does that count as a horror story?

talk about being mean loool...being the evil person that I am, I probably would've laughed too..Did she have chunks of hair missing?

[frankster]

Well, if getting stuck in ANYTHING counts then I got my knees stuck in the school railings when I was seven years old and they had to get the school janitor out to rub dish soap on my legs to get them out. That's not very designery is it.

[DesignVHL]

not design related, but still fun to hear... :)

that reminds me when i was a kid...i was about 5 or 6...and my dumbass stuck my head in between the slats / posts on the stairs...don't remember how I got out tho....

Sometimes the downfall of others can be funny...tho i wasn't laughing when that kid got stuck in the eye... i wouldn't wish that on anyone!

[Mynock]

I had a coworker grommet his finger nail.

[Bladez]

talk about being mean loool...being the evil person that I am, I probably would've laughed too..Did she have chunks of hair missing?

No, she escaped with her hair in tact...just a little thinned out on one side *LOL*

I couln't stop laughing. I finally helped her when she started to cry...I kinda felt bad at that point, but only a little ;) I'll call it revenge for when she hit me with a broom....

Actually, I think that shop was a death trap. I ran my garbage out to the dumpster and when I was emptying the can, the dumpster lid fell and crushed my wrist.

[DesignVHL]

ooch, punishment? lol...do we want to know WHY you got hit w/ a broom?? lol

If my friend had a broom one night...not design related, but she's a designer so it should count....she was drunk, no schnocked out of her mind...she fell/tumbled out of a cab and slipped and fell on the ice in the street - HARD...I couldn't stop laughing....if she was sober enough I woulda got knocked out! :p And then I was drunk and forgot to help her...she won't let me live it down.

[Bladez]

I can't remember why she hit me with the broom...cracked me right on the arm tho and left a pretty nasty welt/bruise. I THINK, it was because I taped her to her chair....but I'm not 100% sure

[Ferraribabe]

Lol that reminds me of when I was at a party and my friends told me i was so drunk that I made myself believe that I was tinkerbell, so I stood at the top of the stairs screaming " I can fly! " and kinda jumped....I woke up the next day really sore and had so many bruises..

[DesignVHL]

lol nothing like a good "when i was drunk..." story. :)

[Bladez]

Sure didn't take long for this thread to go from "Design horror stories" to "When I was drunk..." hahahaha

[DesignVHL]

I'm adhd, i have an excuse...tangents tangents!

[Ferraribabe]

Lol I could go on with the drunken stories...ahh good times good times

[Bladez]

Lets see if we can steer this back to the original idea *LOL*

I was doing some bulk cutting one day and just as it cuth through the card stock, I screamed "AHHH! MY FINGER!!!!" and scared the hell outta the 2 girls that were near by. One was training the other and they both went white for a sec, before they realized that you need both hands to press the buttons, an as soon as you let go of one, the blade stops. I thought they were gonna kill me....I was scared for my life. The horror....the horror....

[DesignVHL]

an angry designer can turn into quite a horror story too. :p Tho, I haven't killed a client, yet.

[Bladez]

I almost went over the counter to get to a client once...but then my manager stepped in and I walked off cussing a blue streak....I guess we can be pretty horrible eh?

[SpugNothuson]

Back when i worked in the print shop one of the print finishers sliced the tip off his index finger whilst running the perfect binder without the guards inplace.

To make matters worse a couple of days later he was using the guillotine, applied the clamp to the stack of paper and routinely smoothed the paper down as he slid his hand away as the clamp slowly dropped on the stack. He forgot the huge 2 inch bandage he had on his finger and the clamp caught him early and squished his poorly finger, never heard someone cuss quite so much at an inanimate object.

[SpugNothuson]

I guess we can be pretty horrible eh?
They force us to be that way.

[Ferraribabe]

Well I was cutting some bulk paper for a project and I had to stick my hands under that huge blade to position the paper and my partner pressed one of the buttons and it made this loud sound and I thought it was going to come down and slice my hands off. So I screamed bloody murder and the entire class just went silent. I made sure that when I smacked him, it left a mark..LOL

[DesignVHL]

I gotta say, I think we have a lot more patience than people in other industries sometimes!

Lucky for me(or perhaps my clients), i work full-time in-house...and my independent / freelance clients are rarely local - most are all the way across the country...at least the couple of PITA ones are!

[DesignVHL]

Back when i worked in the print shop one of the print finishers sliced the tip off his index finger whilst running the perfect binder without the guards inplace.

To make matters worse a couple of days later he was using the guillotine, applied the clamp to the stack of paper and routinely smoothed the paper down as he slid his hand away as the clamp slowly dropped on the stack. He forgot the huge 2 inch bandage he had on his finger and the clamp caught him early and squished his poorly finger, never heard someone cuss quite so much at an inanimate object.

K now that gave me the heebie jeebies! The Guillotines are scaaawwwwy!

[Ferraribabe]

yep..my heart dropped reading that...

[SpugNothuson]

Way, way back when I worked in a Newspaper Press Hall we had an emergency stop on the press.

It wa being cleaned down for the night whilst running some end rolls through the press when the entire thing shuddered to an all might halt (I was used to it being slowly run down then hitting the off switches).

With a matter of urgency we had to search through the paper in the stackers for a pressman's missing thumb. In the need of finishing early they were using the rags to clean the press down whilst it was running at half speed, rather than idling it. Last time they did that.

On a happy note, the missing digit was found, reattached and a warning story was to be told to all by the pressman whilst waggling his now slightly deformed and garishly scared thumb at the newbies.

[Ferraribabe]

have you guys seen that video on youtube of that guy in the philipines getting his arm stuck in a press machine? yeah um t hat was scary

[SpugNothuson]

:eek: Nooooo. :eek:

[Ferraribabe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVkotQ-We88

watch this :S

[SpugNothuson]

How the hell did he not a break a bone?

He's one lucky idiot.

[lucdesaulniers]

Exacto knife story again. I was working on my drawing table (with a slight angle) sitting on a stool, doing cutting and pasting gallies. I put down the knife on the table and it started to roll down. Instinctively, I closed my thighs together to prevent it to fall to the floor.. a bit too late. End results, the blade when all the way in my inner thigh, up to the handle, squeezed by my legs. When I spread them apart, the knife was just there holding at a 90 degree angle. I still bare the scar.. My next Exacto knife had a square tip at the end of the handle barrel, wonder why?

[Ferraribabe]

I dont know but when I got my sweater caught between the rollers, that image of his arm being caught was the only thing I could think about LOL

[SpugNothuson]

When I was junior pre press boy we had a bit of a quiet week at work so we started to clean the department down and throw all the old rubbish out.

We took a load of plates from the side of the Print Down Frame to throw into the aluminium waste cages that were down stairs. Halfway down the stairs I hear Jon cursing under his breath, we were carrying about 20 670x510 size sheets each and some of the ones in the middle of the stack had slipped and sliced his left palm open.

He always wore big gloves to do that job in future.

[garricks]

I was rushing to cut some half-sheet wine menus. I was at home, and didn't have the nice little rotary paper cutter I have now. The short story: I sliced my right index finger tip off with an exacto knife.

But that pales in comparison to my restaurant job. I had cleaned the safety covers for the meat slicer and was reassembling it. I slipped and cut my right pinkie to the bone at the last knuckle, near my hand. Fourteen stitches. And I had an audition at Drake University two days later. Um, yeah, I wasn't at my best, y'know?

[Ferraribabe]

I'ev never had issues with cutting myself, which is quite funny because I'm a natural blonde and born a clutz LOL

[SpugNothuson]

Last one for the night. It's almost sleepy time for me.

Whilst at the Local Newspaper one of the Reelstands operators slipping with his blade and sliced his palm open. He was a bit of an oddball bless him and he stood there squishing his wound and watching some lovely claret drip down his hand and onto the floor.

Unfortunately at the moment One Eyed Willie was walking down the stairs in the presshall , on his way for a crafty fag out the back, and saw Mark messing about with his own blood. Willie fainted fell down the rest of the steps and smashed his head on the floor. He then preceeded to swallow his tongue and stop breathing.

Mark stopped buggering about with his wound and administered first aid to Willie and by all accounts probably saved his life. Willie never cut through the presshall for a crafty fag again.

[Bladez]

Nice one Garricks...my brothere did something similar. He ran his pinkie finger through a bandsaw right at the middle knuckle. Luckily he stopped before going all the way through, but when they stitched him back together, the freezing never took, so he says he could feel the thread being pulled through.

[Ferraribabe]

oh dear god...that must've really hurt

[Bladez]

oh dear god...that must've really hurt

Meh....I didn't feel a thing! :D

[Ferraribabe]

lol and then theres me who'd be on the floor crying and wanting to go to the hospital

[garricks]

Meh....I didn't feel a thing! :DROFLMAO!

The sad thing was, I very nearly wrapped my hand in the filthy apron I'd been wearing all shift...a coworker stopped me. I was worried about bleeding on the floor I had just mopped! :eek:


Band saws scare me.

[Ferraribabe]

oh dear god lol

[Bladez]

Nothing's more important that a clean floor. Blood will stain it. Besides, infections aren't real, so go ahead and wrap that dirty apron around your gaping wound. It's good for it! :)

[Ferraribabe]

Hey just think, it builds up your immune system!

[Bladez]

Hey just think, it builds up your immune system!

They say an Exacto knife in the eye does the same thing

[budafist]

This thread makes me feel ill. Maybe because I've seen Saw 1, 2, 3 and 4.

My legs ache when I see or hear about people hurting themselves. I wonder if there is a name for this phenomenon?

[Bladez]

Have you seen the hostel movies too Buda?

[Ferraribabe]

I've seen all the Hostels and all the Saws...And lets just say im scarred for life...

[Bladez]

After the first saw, I quit wasting my time. Didn't like it at all. Hostel, on the other hand, actually made me gag near the end of the first one with the eyeball...

[Ferraribabe]

No...If you've seen Saw 4 where that guy is standing on this icecube and suddenly these two cement things come towards his head and crushes his head..and all his brains are on the floor... Its a great movie to watch while ur eating lasagna

[budafist]

Have you seen the hostel movies too Buda?

I have. Hostel makes me not want to travel to that of the world.

[Bladez]

well, maybe I'll have to bit the bullet and watch the other 3....Did the acting and dialog at least get better?

[garricks]

I've seen my share of horror/slasher movies, but my gut told me not to watch saw or hostel. I'm glad I didn't!

Not a design tragedy, but another food-related one: Next week on Hell's Kitchen one of the chefs cuts off a significant part of his/her finger, and the staff realizes later that it flew into the pancetta, which was frying nearby. :eek:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/garricks/GDF/pancetta_fried.jpg

(visual aid not from the show)

[budafist]

I thought the Saw 4 one was a bit odd. The whole thing is a flashback to conclude but it should not be watched unless you have seen the other 3 first.

[budafist]

before they realized that you need both hands to press the buttons, an as soon as you let go of one, the blade stops.

That is such a smart design. I'm pretty sure our guillotine is foot operated. Must be so that you can cut all of your fingers off in 1 go.

[Red Kittie Kat]

I've had plenty of exacto cuts, nicks and near misses over the years. My bigger injuries were not design related ... they were cooking incidents I've mentioned on here before.

I did staple my thumb to a stack of papers once though that was an interesting predicament :D

[DesignVHL]

Haven't seen Saw 4 yet...Saw movies are ok, just kinda fun to watch if you like that kind of stuff, but not award winning movie making imo. Anyways, I'm at my limit after the last few months w/ horror and slasher movies - my boyfriend HATES HATES HATES them, and has had enough for now! I sneak one onto the list now and then though. :p

I saw both Hostels too...creepy as hell and also that part of the world scares me buda! But I loved both those films...The scary eyeball gets me everytime!

Speaking of those types of movies...if you liked those, check out Rob Zombie's House of a 1000 Corpses and the Sequel, The Devil's Rejects. I'm going to assume at least someone in this thread so far has seen them.

[DesignVHL]

That is such a smart design. I'm pretty sure our guillotine is foot operated. Must be so that you can cut all of your fingers off in 1 go.


Are you serious????!!!!! I guess not enough people got their fingers cut off yet for that to become the norm? I am a little surprised there aren't better safety precautions on something like that...or you just have better surgeons so it doesn't matter....battle scars perhaps worn proudly?

[budafist]

Are you serious????!!!!! I guess not enough people got their fingers cut off yet for that to become the norm? I am a little surprised there aren't better safety precautions on something like that...or you just have better surgeons so it doesn't matter....battle scars perhaps worn proudly?

Well I haven't actually used the guillotine here, but that's the impression I got when watching other people use it. Guillotines scare me so I never watch too closely.

[Ferraribabe]

I've seen my share of horror/slasher movies, but my gut told me not to watch saw or hostel. I'm glad I didn't!

Not a design tragedy, but another food-related one: Next week on Hell's Kitchen one of the chefs cuts off a significant part of his/her finger, and the staff realizes later that it flew into the pancetta, which was frying nearby. :eek:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/garricks/GDF/pancetta_fried.jpg

(visual aid not from the show)


lmao I had my face close to the screen looking for his finger

[garricks]

LOL that's why I added the disclaimer, but it looked just like that! :eek:

[Bladez]

Speaking of those types of movies...if you liked those, check out Rob Zombie's House of a 1000 Corpses and the Sequel, The Devil's Rejects. I'm going to assume at least someone in this thread so far has seen them.

I love those movies!! I actually just wrote a big ass essay on them just the other day. A friend of mine was asking what the deal is with them because House of 1000 corpses disturbed her so much, so she asked me about it and waht she was missing. I think I've talked her into seeing the Devils Rejects now too :) Zombie is a genius!!

[SpugNothuson]

That is such a smart design. I'm pretty sure our guillotine is foot operated. Must be so that you can cut all of your fingers off in 1 go.

You'll probably find that the foot peddle is used to apply the clamp (the one that caught my mates finger).

Once the paper is knocked up and in the correct position you apply the clamp (foot pedal) take your big grubby mitts out of the way and then stick your fingers on the cut buttons at either side of the bed. No fingers in the way, no nasty injuries.

Also if the guillotine is at under 15 years old it'll have sensors in its arms that come out over the bed that detect if anything is there that shouldn't be, like an arm and even if both buttons are depressed the blades will not move.

[garricks]

Once the paper is knocked up...

*knock knock knock* "Hello, paper, are you in?"

[Ferraribabe]

I love those movies!! I actually just wrote a big ass essay on them just the other day. A friend of mine was asking what the deal is with them because House of 1000 corpses disturbed her so much, so she asked me about it and waht she was missing. I think I've talked her into seeing the Devils Rejects now too :) Zombie is a genius!!



I agree! I love his music and his movies! He directed the new Michael Myers Halloween movie, which was just amazing!

[Bladez]

I agree! I love his music and his movies! He directed the new Michael Myers Halloween movie, which was just amazing!

I haven't seen it yet sadly, but as soon as I heard he redid Halloween I decided right then and there it's a movie I have to buy regardless! :D

[Ferraribabe]

I dont get scared easily but that one kinda freaked me out

[quiltfacearmy]

I have two injuries, they are not really graphic design injuries but art related. Both took place during my custom picture framing days. I was stretching a canvas with a pnumatic staple gun. I realized that I missed the stretcher bar but couldn't see where the staple went. Then i looked at my finger. The staple went through the tip of my finger and out the back through the nail. It didn't really hurt but it freaked everyone else out. The second was when I went to cut a piece of paper with a mat cutting blade wrong side up. It was one of the rectangular blades and my finger pressed full force right on the corner of the sharp side. I probably should have gotten stitches. but I didn't so now I have a battle wound to remind me to look before I cut.

[budafist]

You'll probably find that the foot peddle is used to apply the clamp (the one that caught my mates finger).

Once the paper is knocked up and in the correct position you apply the clamp (foot pedal) take your big grubby mitts out of the way and then stick your fingers on the cut buttons at either side of the bed. No fingers in the way, no nasty injuries.

Also if the guillotine is at under 15 years old it'll have sensors in its arms that come out over the bed that detect if anything is there that shouldn't be, like an arm and even if both buttons are depressed the blades will not move.

That could be it then! As I said I've never played with the guillotine before.

[garricks]

I've seen my share of horror/slasher movies, but my gut told me not to watch saw or hostel. I'm glad I didn't!

Not a design tragedy, but another food-related one: Next week on Hell's Kitchen one of the chefs cuts off a significant part of his/her finger, and the staff realizes later that it flew into the pancetta, which was frying nearby. :eek:

Well, once again the FOX promo department went overboard.The way it looked in the promo, it went into the pancetta, which then went out to the dining room.

In fact, Matt cut his finger during the challenge, not during dinner service. They never did seem to find the finger tip, and the pancetta was not consumed. What a letdown! I mean, not that he was hurt, but that the promo was so misleading.

[Bladez]

Yea, that was kinda disappointing...I wanted to see someone find it in their food and freak out

[PrintDriver]

Saw 1 is actually a pretty good movie. Surprisingly.

[budafist]

Yea, that was kinda disappointing...I wanted to see someone find it in their food and freak out


How big was the "bit"? Had it gone to the dining room would someone have noticed or consumed it in ignorant bliss?

[Bladez]

it was the tip of the guys finger, big enough that a person would look at and and go "what the hell is that??" but not enough to notice it's a finger. Prolly end up thinking it's a piece of meat and chow down on it.......*ugh*

[Riefnu]

Anyone else notice that Ferraribabe has a LOT of horror stories? :rolleyes:

I hope none involve her namesake.:p Clutzy Canadians.:D


I don't have any "horror" stories, or even any good personal drunk stories (I'm like drunk immune so far), best I can do is working all day and night to finish a design during a windstorm. The power went out for just a second and all that hard work went out the window.


Such is the hard lesson of "Save early, safe often."

[MikeHun]

Long ago as a furniture designer, one day in the machining building. I was just by the Altendorf panel saw when that operator who had been sawing drawer bottoms screamed out in agony.
He had incorrectly held the drawer pieces and the blade had sucked back his hand taking all the tips to the first knuckles off his right fingers off. EEEEEEEEEEwhewww!!!
Well we bandaged him up and blanket wrapped him to prevent shock and the lead hand took him to the hospital. Being left back I picked up the remaining pieces and bagged them thinking of reattachment, still they couldn't use them.
Post incident, the guy lived but the doctors had not taken into account bone spurs / arthritis / minimal re-growth. Subsequently the guy had to have more of the remaining bone in 3 of the fingers shaved and or taken off 7 months later.

[Jackimalyn]

That could be it then! As I said I've never played with the guillotine before.

At the print shop I worked at, I wasn't allowed to, per our insurance. I used the clamp to press folded edges that werent scored but I wasnt allowed to push the blade button. The clamp was enough to freak me out that thing comes down hard, but the blade is even more scary.

I think the worst injury I had there was burning my finger pretty good on paper drill. I tried to saty in the prepress area and keep away from the dangerous stuff.

Oh who am I kidding? I was surrounded by exacto knives. We should have our own discovery channel special. Show up that "Deadliest Catch"

[garricks]

Oh who am I kidding? I was surrounded by exacto knives. We should have our own discovery channel special. Show up that "Deadliest Catch"When I joined my group (we were brought together from different facilities) I discovered that while I used exacto knives, most of my coworkers used medical scalpels. :eek:

I told the office manager she was just going to have to order both. No way am I cutting art board with a scalpel...they're meant for cutting flesh!

[Jackimalyn]

thats a little extreme garrick! but i bet they had some nice, clean edges!

[Red Kittie Kat]

A scalpel I could not use!! :eek:

[budafist]

At the print shop I worked at, I wasn't allowed to, per our insurance. I used the clamp to press folded edges that werent scored but I wasnt allowed to push the blade button. The clamp was enough to freak me out that thing comes down hard, but the blade is even more scary.

I think the worst injury I had there was burning my finger pretty good on paper drill. I tried to saty in the prepress area and keep away from the dangerous stuff.

Oh who am I kidding? I was surrounded by exacto knives. We should have our own discovery channel special. Show up that "Deadliest Catch"


I've used our drill before but I just don't have the arms (or the hands) to pull that lever down. After about 15 minutes I had to tell them I couldn't do it anymore. My arms were killing me and I had blisters on my hands where I was gripping the lever. The embarrassing thing is, the people that normally do it are 2 ladies nearing retirement! :o

[Riefnu]

What's wrong with using a surgeons scaple? They supposedly are strong enough to never dull.

Speaking of people freaked by exactos. I had a girl in a class ask for a exacto knife. Which, after putting on the cap, which locks into place, I proceeded to hand it to her. Which caused a endless fit of "DONT HAND IT LIKE THAT I COULD STAB MY HAND".

Which foolish me turned the 100% covered and locked blade around which got the "DONT DO THAT YOULL CUT YOURSELF"

To which I replied simply by removing the cap, and dropping it point first onto the ground, where it stuck, and saying "There, now it's already stabbed the ground".

[doctorfoz]

What's wrong with using a surgeons scaple? They supposedly are strong enough to never dull.

I use a scalpel (10a blades by swann morton). They always need replacing. Paper is the worst thing for making them blunt (but even when blunt they can still slice open a finger!)

[Riefnu]

Ohhh how about ceramic exactos...


Mmmmmmmm

[Kool]

Back in 89 after getting out of the navy I got a job as a press operator at an envelope company. My first day there the "old pro" who was training me decided to clean the plate with a rag while the press was running. It sucked the rag and his hand into the press up to the wrist. It pulled most of the skin and muscle and whatnot off the palm of his hand and fingers and broke several bones. He spent 8 hours in surgery and I guess at one point the surgeons were debating amputation. I got to spend the rest of the afternoon of my first day cleaning blood and various bit of hand meat out of the press. Needless to say I never tried cleaning a moving press after that. I did manage to stick my finger into it one time years later but all I lost was a fingernail.

[Bladez]

Back in 89 after getting out of the navy I got a job as a press operator at an envelope company. My first day there the "old pro" who was training me decided to clean the plate with a rag while the press was running. It sucked the rag and his hand into the press up to the wrist. It pulled most of the skin and muscle and whatnot off the palm of his hand and fingers and broke several bones. He spent 8 hours in surgery and I guess at one point the surgeons were debating amputation. I got to spend the rest of the afternoon of my first day cleaning blood and various bit of hand meat out of the press. Needless to say I never tried cleaning a moving press after that. I did manage to stick my finger into it one time years later but all I lost was a fingernail.

This thread is making me crave Steak.....

[PrintDriver]

I can't tell you how many CNC router bits I've had break and go pinging off the guide rails. And spinning aluminum spalls that catch in the collet. The bit spins at 18,000rpm. Those spalls were like scythes. But they also explain where the idea for Moz Metal came from. :D

[doctorfoz]

Back in 89 after getting out of the navy I got a job as a press operator at an envelope company. My first day there the "old pro" who was training me decided to clean the plate with a rag while the press was running. It sucked the rag and his hand into the press up to the wrist. It pulled most of the skin and muscle and whatnot off the palm of his hand and fingers and broke several bones. He spent 8 hours in surgery and I guess at one point the surgeons were debating amputation. I got to spend the rest of the afternoon of my first day cleaning blood and various bit of hand meat out of the press. Needless to say I never tried cleaning a moving press after that. I did manage to stick my finger into it one time years later but all I lost was a fingernail.

And, when you're the "old pro", training up the noob, are you going to instill the same grusome lesson in him? It's only a hand, after all! :D

[Kool]

Heh heh, I actually became the old pro there after many years. I simply said anyone seen cleaning a moving press in any fashion other than the recommended way would be fired on the spot. It worked for the most part.

[budafist]

That's a scary story Kool. I would not have come back after that incident.