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mar1300
07-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Hi,

I'm a PC user and was thinking about getting an Apple iMac 20" Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz 1G ram..(thinking about up grading the ram at a later date).

Do you think this is a good enough machine to do my designing on??
I was looking at PCs that were $500-600 cheaper and they were just load...a BEAST!! hmmm which way to go??

Another thing I've been reading is that the IMacs 20" screens give off a lot of glare and the colors changes at different angles ...any thoughts on this??


Thanks a lot guys!

doubting_thomas
07-21-2008, 05:46 PM
*sigh*

Psyco
07-21-2008, 05:46 PM
I <3 Mac's?

jdjtcagle
07-21-2008, 05:47 PM
Get a mac?
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/Smileys/HLP/nervous.gif

MikeHun
07-21-2008, 05:47 PM
I can feel the hook...
Get the matte screen... and yes the MAC is far better in the long run.

Jeff92
07-21-2008, 05:50 PM
*groan*
all depends on what you are looking for. Both of them have there highs and lows, do your research and look towards yourself and get what you want. Both will work for you.

Bladez
07-21-2008, 05:52 PM
Well, I just bought the 24" iMac and it's beautiful to design on. I've been loving it. It's a nice fast machine, but realistically, you can get a PC that's just as fast. These days, mac and pc are pretty much comparable when it comes do the broad scheme of things. It's just a matter of what kind of system you put in a pc. I personally am a Mac guy, just because I prefer the stability of them. With new PC machines, most of them are coming with Vista which is an absolute abomination of a platform.

This debate between mac and pc has been going on for years. As somebody who used both on a daily basis, it really boils down to what kind of hardware your running. If you've got the same sort of thing in a PC it'll run just as smooth. You just run the instability risk of windows which is what turned me off of it the most.

As far as the screen issues, I haven't really had any problems with mine. Perhaps it's just because of where it is that I'm not getting a glare on it. I haven't noticed a change in colour from different angles tho.

mar1300
07-21-2008, 06:30 PM
The answer to this question really all boils down to is the system I'm looking at good enough for my designing needs... running photoshop, illustrator, flash nice and smooth??? or is a upgrade needed..

really I'm not trying to start anything.

Thanks

Virgo Nightingale
07-21-2008, 06:35 PM
Both machines can do the job. Period. It's the person in front of the machine that makes the difference. Regardless of platform, just make sure the machine has plenty of RAM for running the applications in question and a good graphics card.

mar1300
07-21-2008, 06:43 PM
Both machines can do the job. Period. It's the person in front of the machine that makes the difference. Regardless of platform, just make sure the machine has plenty of RAM for running the applications in question and a good graphics card.




I completely understand that, but is the machine I'm looking at good enough to run my programs smooth and fast "Apple iMac 20" Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz 1G ram"??? I'm just unfamiliar with the Mac Specs...for example maybe IMac core 2 Duo is comparable to the PC quad core?? i have no idea..


Thanks

Pointyhat
07-21-2008, 06:45 PM
That Mac is more than capable. All Macs are.

Navian
07-21-2008, 06:49 PM
Lets not forget about the software conversions.. if you have software for the pc, conversion costs could go through the roof (ie Adobe). Some software (if you are used to a certain piece of software) you may never find it for the other.

Though there are the Virtual OS that you can install (Windows with in Mac OS, or Mac OS with in Windows), but IMO that just makes the software even slower.

Typically
07-21-2008, 06:49 PM
get more ram

MikeHun
07-21-2008, 06:59 PM
Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram! Is all you really need for simultaneously running
5 big whopping apps like PS Illy Quark Indesign and Flash plus your web browser
...and if you want 3D like MAYA Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram!
I've 16 gig of ram and I want more Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram!

Silence04
07-21-2008, 07:20 PM
you will want more ram for the imac, but i would buy it 3rd party.

CamarotaDesign
07-21-2008, 07:28 PM
If you aren't good at keeping your PC free of spyware, and well maintained and running fast, (which most people arent) you should get a mac. I've been on PC's for 15 year years and find PC's easy to maintain, and know all the tweaks and what programs will do when I download and install them. So I am more comfortable with PC's and I notice no real differences in performance and useability, only price :)

jdjtcagle
07-21-2008, 08:04 PM
I have 1 gig on mine and running CS3 and it runs great. Illustrator gives me the most tie-ups, everything else is pretty smooth :)

Typically
07-21-2008, 08:06 PM
id go 4 gigs if you can

John G
07-21-2008, 08:13 PM
I completely understand that, but is the machine I'm looking at good enough to run my programs smooth and fast "Apple iMac 20" Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz 1G ram"??? I'm just unfamiliar with the Mac Specs...for example maybe IMac core 2 Duo is comparable to the PC quad core?? i have no idea..
Mac's and PC's are now completely the same. All specs transfer since they went Intel. The only difference is your OS and Mac's somewhat limited hardware compatibility (only certain brands are "guaranteed" to work with the OS (in some cases only certain SKU's) although something not being "guaranteed" doesn't mean it wouldn't work necessarily).

Pointyhat
07-21-2008, 08:16 PM
Mac's and PC's are now completely the same. All specs transfer since they went Intel. The only difference is your OS and Mac's somewhat limited hardware compatibility (only certain brands are "guaranteed" to work with the OS although something not being "guaranteed" doesn't mean it wouldn't work necessarily).

Well that and those pesky viruses that creep up and destroy your harddrive twice a year.

Typically
07-21-2008, 08:20 PM
now i probably shouldn't be saying this because i'll get one now but.... i've been using a pc for 10+ years and haven't had a malicious virus ruin one of my computers. if you take precautions and aren't downloading mass amounts of porn or bootleg software it shouldn't be that big of a problem.

John G
07-21-2008, 08:21 PM
Well that and those pesky viruses that creep up and destroy your harddrive twice a year.
In 16 years, I still haven't gotten a virus where do you guys get yours?

ok, no more, I'm out before it gets ugly.

And, Vista sucks, so if it's between Mac and Vista, go Mac. I'd at least consider XP over Mac if given the chance.

Virgo Nightingale
07-21-2008, 08:24 PM
I've yet to have a virus on my PC. Like Typ mentioned, if you take precautions you're less likely to have an issue. Plus, it's not like Macs are immune. They get viruses too, just not as often.

MD
07-21-2008, 08:32 PM
if you take precautions and aren't downloading mass amounts of porn or bootleg software it shouldn't be that big of a problem.

You won't get any viruses because your computer will be turned off for most of its life. Seriously is there anything interesting on the net besides porn and bootleg music and software?

Bladez
07-21-2008, 08:34 PM
You won't get any viruses because your computer will be turned off for most of its life. Seriously is there anything interesting on the net besides porn and bootleg music and software?

I find this site to be really interesting:

http://www.graphicdesignforum.com (http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/../)

:)

Pointyhat
07-21-2008, 08:37 PM
My boss went through two PCs last year. It's all evil in the email, I swear.

MD
07-21-2008, 08:38 PM
I find this site to be really interesting:

http://www.graphicdesignforum.com (http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/../)

:)


Yeah I have seen that site before - Softcore crossdressing porn disguised as something useful.

http://homepage.mac.com/bladez/.Pictures/tiki1.jpg

Typically
07-21-2008, 08:39 PM
Yeah I have seen that site before - Softcore crossdressing porn disguised as something useful.

http://homepage.mac.com/bladez/.Pictures/tiki1.jpg

bwahahahahahahhahaha

CamarotaDesign
07-21-2008, 08:50 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about vista... I'll probably mac once XP is obsolete.

In 16 years, I still haven't gotten a virus where do you guys get yours?

ok, no more, I'm out before it gets ugly.

And, Vista sucks, so if it's between Mac and Vista, go Mac. I'd at least consider XP over Mac if given the chance.

Mynock
07-21-2008, 09:04 PM
Camarota where you been?

MD
07-21-2008, 09:13 PM
Camarota where you been?

Sobbing uncontrollably in the corner because Baron Davis left for the Clippers.

Bladez
07-21-2008, 09:35 PM
LMAO @ MD

Glad to see I've left a lasting impression in your mind!

Virgo Nightingale
07-21-2008, 09:36 PM
Well how does that NOT?

garricks
07-22-2008, 12:31 AM
ROFLMAO @ MD...and also at bladez' A-cup. Eat a sandwich, I can count your ribs! :D

Bladez
07-22-2008, 12:41 AM
ROFLMAO @ MD...and also at bladez' A-cup. Eat a sandwich, I can count your ribs! :D

hahaha, my mother says the same thing.

Counting my ribs is one of my favourite pass times :)

garricks
07-22-2008, 12:53 AM
Yeah, I'm guessin' your Mom & I are about the same age... :)

urstwile
07-22-2008, 04:33 AM
To answer your question simply, the iMac you referred to will be more than adequate for your needs. However, you didn't state what software you currently have, and as someone else mentioned, crossgrading can be a biotch and not always possible, although I think Adobe's gotten more liberal since Macs have gotten more popular. To see if the screen would meet your needs, I'd advise going to an Apple store and checking it out yourself.

And definitely pack it with as much RAM as it'll take.

As to whether PC's would also be out there to meet your needs, yes, they would be fine, provided that you're willing to use Vista as your OS.

Drorain
07-22-2008, 01:31 PM
[In response to Rotelli's refusal to accept his proposal] Well, Tony. Nobody wants a war. Why, we'll just shake hands and that'll be it. [proceeds to electrocute Rotelli with a lethally electric joy buzzer]

you can install windows onto your imac, the hardware is solid, make sure your getting an 8-series graphics cad or your wasting money