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brisA
07-29-2008, 04:54 PM
does anybody knows a nice site to download fonts...i need gill sans and helvetica ;)

obesebee
07-29-2008, 04:55 PM
I assume you're willing to pay for these?

Virgo Nightingale
07-29-2008, 05:02 PM
There are tons of font sites out there, and I'm sure 99% of them have Gill Sans and Helvetica available for sale.

www.fonts.com
www.myfonts.com
www.fontshop.com
www.linotype.com

TorrentOfFlame
07-29-2008, 05:19 PM
www.dafont.com (http://www.dafont.com)

free?

DesignVHL
07-29-2008, 05:31 PM
Gill Sans and Helvetica are not free fonts. You can purchase them from numerous foundries online - adobe.com, linotype, fonts.com and the list goes on, and on. :)

i don't suggest using free fonts for commercial use - even if the license permits it....unless you KNOW for sure that 1. you can use it without breaking the license agreement, and 2. that its a good font file, made right. Many free fonts are CRAP.

Virgo Nightingale
07-29-2008, 05:49 PM
Many free fonts are also just teaser samples and don't include key characters like vowels or numbers.

You get what you pay for.

TorrentOfFlame
07-31-2008, 05:26 PM
Dafont has all of them, its actually a nice free font website. Most have special characters, too.

But yeah, I suppose I should have to read their Terms of Use to see if they are distributable.

Pointyhat
07-31-2008, 06:00 PM
And alot of free fonts have restrictions when you try to embed them into a pdf.

If you have Adobe Creative Suite there should be some fonts included on one of the disks. Chances are good there's helvetica & gill sans

garricks
07-31-2008, 06:01 PM
Actually, TorrentOfFlame, Gill Sans and Helvetica are not available at dafont, although they are kind enough to provide links to sites where they can be purchased.

And I have to agree with the others. You get what you pay for.

Anyone with the right software can make a "font" but there are damn few that can create a proper "typeface." Just like graphic design. :)

DesignVHL
07-31-2008, 06:06 PM
PROFESSIONAL designers don't use free fonts for a reason. Thats all I'm gonna say.

garricks
07-31-2008, 06:10 PM
Well, I wouldn't go quite that far, VHL...I've used them as display type on occasion, but VERY carefully. Converting to outlines, making sure to get an Epson proof and having a backup typeface in case it blows up in my face!

But yeah, generally I stick with the major foundries.

Virgo Nightingale
07-31-2008, 06:50 PM
A free font can certainly serve its purpose, as long as it works and fits the project at hand. I used a free font to make a fake credit card image for a political 'newspaper'. Looked exactly right, worked fine (I did rasterize it in photoshop though) and fit the budget, especially since it was only being used for a few characters (a 16-digit cc number and a 'name' beneath).

DesignVHL
07-31-2008, 07:03 PM
Well that I see as a bit differently than using a font for text usage...display fonts and modified (and always outlined of course) freebies (if given commercial usage rights) can definitely work when appropriate . I'm guilty of using them every once in a while if it makes sense. But it isn't the first place I go to if I can help it. :)

Pointyhat
07-31-2008, 07:13 PM
Sure they do, but they know enough to outline them before putting them into any sort of workflow. And they would never use one for copy or text.

garricks
07-31-2008, 10:48 PM
Smart lot, this GDF bunch, eh? :D